Jan 1, 2018, 9:44 pm
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
Benefits unique to the Chase MP Presidential Plus card (closed and not available for new cardholders)
- 1000 FPQM per $5,000 spend (or 0.2 / $1)
- FPQMs are only valid for Premier Silver / Gold / Platinum status, expire 3 years after earning
- 1000 FPQM per $5,000 spend (or 0.2 / $1)
- FPQMs are only valid for Premier Silver / Gold / Platinum status, expire 3 years after earning
- FPQMs can only be used to increase PQMs to a max of 75,000. They are not counted once 75K is reached. (example 80K PQMs +10 FPQMs is still 80K total)
- FPQMs cannot be used to earn GPUs or RPUs past 75K PQMs
- FPQMs are held separately and are only used when the owner requests them to be applied to their MP accountFPQMs can be applied for a given year as late as March 31 of the next year
General Questions re: MileagePlus Flex PQP ( was Flex PQM)
May 8, 2012, 10:20 am
#31
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Austin, TX and Aspen, CO
Programs: AA EXP, Marriott Lifetime Plat, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 225
Guys and Gals - I have been religiously tracking all points raised in this thread and I can say the following with certainty:
* You CANNOT use ANY FEQMs to get to 1K in 2012; period, full stop; end of discussion. 100k BIS (or equivalent EQM bonus) must be flown to achieve 1K.
* No one that I am aware of has received April PPlus statement FEQMs to their accounts. This is annoying, but I'm sure they will come. Unfortunately, UAInsider only answers about one out of three PMs I send her, and a week late; so I don't know how long we'll have to wait.
Frustratingly, UAInsider was able to move all of my 2011 FEQMs to Lifetime miles, and they actually showed up - for about 2 days - before being removed from my Lifetime Miles account without explanation. I am waiting for them to show back up in my Lifetime Miles tally, as well as I am waiting for April statement FEQMs to show up.
I have kept PPlus and have a Club Card now, because the PPlus will come in handy on years you're short of Platinum (though they'll never again allow 1K I would wager). But the 1.5 miles on the Club Card are a lot better once you've got your FEQM needs addressed. I realize I'm on the hook for $800/yr in fees, but it's still worth it with high spend.
I believe that later this year, they'll roll the Presidential Plus card back out; the FEQMs benefit (especially now that its capped at Platinum) is too great for UA's business and they'll be playing catch-up given all the bad mojo they've caused this year.
I truly believe they're just swamped/overwhelmed, but are carefully working through the backlog of complaints in order of their severity. Crediting FEQMs and Lifetime Status is probably at the bottom of their priority list.
* You CANNOT use ANY FEQMs to get to 1K in 2012; period, full stop; end of discussion. 100k BIS (or equivalent EQM bonus) must be flown to achieve 1K.
* No one that I am aware of has received April PPlus statement FEQMs to their accounts. This is annoying, but I'm sure they will come. Unfortunately, UAInsider only answers about one out of three PMs I send her, and a week late; so I don't know how long we'll have to wait.
Frustratingly, UAInsider was able to move all of my 2011 FEQMs to Lifetime miles, and they actually showed up - for about 2 days - before being removed from my Lifetime Miles account without explanation. I am waiting for them to show back up in my Lifetime Miles tally, as well as I am waiting for April statement FEQMs to show up.
I have kept PPlus and have a Club Card now, because the PPlus will come in handy on years you're short of Platinum (though they'll never again allow 1K I would wager). But the 1.5 miles on the Club Card are a lot better once you've got your FEQM needs addressed. I realize I'm on the hook for $800/yr in fees, but it's still worth it with high spend.
I believe that later this year, they'll roll the Presidential Plus card back out; the FEQMs benefit (especially now that its capped at Platinum) is too great for UA's business and they'll be playing catch-up given all the bad mojo they've caused this year.
I truly believe they're just swamped/overwhelmed, but are carefully working through the backlog of complaints in order of their severity. Crediting FEQMs and Lifetime Status is probably at the bottom of their priority list.
May 8, 2012, 12:55 pm
#32
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: TPE
Programs: UA Gold, HA Premier, Hertz #1 Gold PC, SBUX Gold
Posts: 603
You're right, some have posted that they have receievd credit card EQMs but the fact is I still have not gotten mine for March or April and others in the thread I referenced have not as well though some have. So I'm still experiencing the same problem with my Select Card EQMs as others are with the PP FEQMs. I was simply trying to be helpful here.
May 8, 2012, 5:00 pm
#34
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: TPE
Programs: UA Gold, HA Premier, Hertz #1 Gold PC, SBUX Gold
Posts: 603
I have kept PPlus and have a Club Card now, because the PPlus will come in handy on years you're short of Platinum (though they'll never again allow 1K I would wager).
I believe that later this year, they'll roll the Presidential Plus card back out; the FEQMs benefit (especially now that its capped at Platinum) is too great for UA's business and they'll be playing catch-up given all the bad mojo they've caused this year.
I believe that later this year, they'll roll the Presidential Plus card back out; the FEQMs benefit (especially now that its capped at Platinum) is too great for UA's business and they'll be playing catch-up given all the bad mojo they've caused this year.
Do you have actual info on the return of the PP? As a PMUA person this was never one of my options but I also really find it difficult to believe considering the current mangement that this card would come back just because SMI/J has the customer in mind.
May 8, 2012, 6:07 pm
#35
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: SEA
Programs: DL Gold
Posts: 1,510
The PresPlus card was CO-branded until very recently. The UA Club card came out before they re-branded the PresPlus as a UA card.
May 9, 2012, 5:48 pm
#40
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: TPE
Programs: UA Gold, HA Premier, Hertz #1 Gold PC, SBUX Gold
Posts: 603
I still haven't gotten Select Card EQMs for March or April despite repeated call to Chase. However after PMing UA Insider yesterday they responded today that they would look into it for me.
Last edited by iluv2fly; May 9, 2012 at 6:28 pm Reason: merge
May 26, 2012, 8:59 pm
#41
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 115
Flex EQM/PQM and 1K
I've seen what appears to be conflicting answers to this question:
Flex EQM/PQM (from Pres Plus CC) can only be used to achieve up to platinum status, not 1k. Which of the below is the correct application of this rule:
(1) The limit only applies to the last 25k miles between 75k and 100k. 100,000 miles achieved by first using a combination of 20k flex and 55k bis miles to achieve plat and then bis only miles used for the last 25k will result in 1k status
(2) To achieve 1k none of the 100k qualifying miles can be flex. They must all be bis (or other non flex) miles. In the above scenario, the 20k flex miles don't count at all (for 1k status) - an additional 20k bis miles must be flown to achieve 1k.
Flex EQM/PQM (from Pres Plus CC) can only be used to achieve up to platinum status, not 1k. Which of the below is the correct application of this rule:
(1) The limit only applies to the last 25k miles between 75k and 100k. 100,000 miles achieved by first using a combination of 20k flex and 55k bis miles to achieve plat and then bis only miles used for the last 25k will result in 1k status
(2) To achieve 1k none of the 100k qualifying miles can be flex. They must all be bis (or other non flex) miles. In the above scenario, the 20k flex miles don't count at all (for 1k status) - an additional 20k bis miles must be flown to achieve 1k.
May 26, 2012, 9:01 pm
#42
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: IAD
Programs: UA 1K, Marriott Rewards - LTPP
Posts: 4,240
I've seen what appears to be conflicting answers to this question:
Flex EQM/PQM (from Pres Plus CC) can only be used to achieve up to platinum status, not 1k. Which of the below is the correct application of this rule:
(1) The limit only applies to the last 25k miles between 75k and 100k. 100,000 miles achieved by first using a combination of 20k flex and 55k bis miles to achieve plat and then bis only miles used for the last 25k will result in 1k status
(2) To achieve 1k none of the 100k qualifying miles can be flex. They must all be bis (or other non flex) miles. In the above scenario, the 20k flex miles don't count at all (for 1k status) - an additional 20k bis miles must be flown to achieve 1k.
Flex EQM/PQM (from Pres Plus CC) can only be used to achieve up to platinum status, not 1k. Which of the below is the correct application of this rule:
(1) The limit only applies to the last 25k miles between 75k and 100k. 100,000 miles achieved by first using a combination of 20k flex and 55k bis miles to achieve plat and then bis only miles used for the last 25k will result in 1k status
(2) To achieve 1k none of the 100k qualifying miles can be flex. They must all be bis (or other non flex) miles. In the above scenario, the 20k flex miles don't count at all (for 1k status) - an additional 20k bis miles must be flown to achieve 1k.
May 26, 2012, 9:03 pm
#43
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: SF Bay Area
Programs: UA 1K MM, Marriott Life Plat, various others of little note
Posts: 2,763
I've seen what appears to be conflicting answers to this question:
Flex EQM/PQM (from Pres Plus CC) can only be used to achieve up to platinum status, not 1k. Which of the below is the correct application of this rule:
(1) The limit only applies to the last 25k miles between 75k and 100k. 100,000 miles achieved by first using a combination of 20k flex and 55k bis miles to achieve plat and then bis only miles used for the last 25k will result in 1k status
(2) To achieve 1k none of the 100k qualifying miles can be flex. They must all be bis (or other non flex) miles. In the above scenario, the 20k flex miles don't count at all (for 1k status) - an additional 20k bis miles must be flown to achieve 1k.
Flex EQM/PQM (from Pres Plus CC) can only be used to achieve up to platinum status, not 1k. Which of the below is the correct application of this rule:
(1) The limit only applies to the last 25k miles between 75k and 100k. 100,000 miles achieved by first using a combination of 20k flex and 55k bis miles to achieve plat and then bis only miles used for the last 25k will result in 1k status
(2) To achieve 1k none of the 100k qualifying miles can be flex. They must all be bis (or other non flex) miles. In the above scenario, the 20k flex miles don't count at all (for 1k status) - an additional 20k bis miles must be flown to achieve 1k.
May 26, 2012, 9:13 pm
#44
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: SEA
Programs: DL Gold
Posts: 1,510
There has been at least one reported exception to the rule, who didn't get it automatically but got a UA agent to assign status manually... I suppose the wording is vague enough you could try it, call UA, and see if you get a rep who likes your interpretation of it rather than the "official" party line which has been published on FT by UA Insider, but sure isn't clear in the official rules.
May 27, 2012, 12:10 am
#45
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Houston, TX
Programs: Continental OnePass Platinum
Posts: 416
I think that no one knows for sure!
Here is the little that I know from personal experience.
Last December, I was close to being a 1K (on my CO OnePass account), and I wanted to use FEQMs to pass the threshold. But the PMCO website shut off the transfer of FEQMs after 75K. It came back with an error message saying that you could not transfer FEQMs to get a total above 75K.
I called up the OnePass service center, and they manually transferred the miles over to get me to 1K, but politely warned me that they were explicitly forbidden from transferring FEQMs past 75K miles after December 31st, 2011, so I should be careful next year.
Now, the big question is whether they would *retroactively* go back and remove FEQMs once you earn "regular" FEQMs past 75K. It seems clear (to me, at least) from the posts by UAInsider that in theory no FEQMs could be used to qualify for 1K, so they should do a retroactive removal. But in practice, there is not yet a report of this happening that I know of---too early in the year. So no one knows!
I personally suspect that they will not do such a retroactive removal. Being a computer scientist (and a database guy) I know that it is always more effort from an implementation perspective to undo something than to prevent it. Can you imagine little lineitems in your statement saying "FEQM Removal: 2622 miles" every time you flew another segment and they removed some of your FEQMs? Would they go back into your FEQM repository? It is certainly possible, but I'll be very curious to hear from the first person with personal knowledge of what will happen.
Here is the little that I know from personal experience.
Last December, I was close to being a 1K (on my CO OnePass account), and I wanted to use FEQMs to pass the threshold. But the PMCO website shut off the transfer of FEQMs after 75K. It came back with an error message saying that you could not transfer FEQMs to get a total above 75K.
I called up the OnePass service center, and they manually transferred the miles over to get me to 1K, but politely warned me that they were explicitly forbidden from transferring FEQMs past 75K miles after December 31st, 2011, so I should be careful next year.
Now, the big question is whether they would *retroactively* go back and remove FEQMs once you earn "regular" FEQMs past 75K. It seems clear (to me, at least) from the posts by UAInsider that in theory no FEQMs could be used to qualify for 1K, so they should do a retroactive removal. But in practice, there is not yet a report of this happening that I know of---too early in the year. So no one knows!
I personally suspect that they will not do such a retroactive removal. Being a computer scientist (and a database guy) I know that it is always more effort from an implementation perspective to undo something than to prevent it. Can you imagine little lineitems in your statement saying "FEQM Removal: 2622 miles" every time you flew another segment and they removed some of your FEQMs? Would they go back into your FEQM repository? It is certainly possible, but I'll be very curious to hear from the first person with personal knowledge of what will happen.