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Old Aug 2, 2013, 9:15 am
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Why does this lounge have its own thread?
Unlike most non–United Club Star Alliance (*A) lounges in the United States, the Lufthansa lounge at IAD is physically accessible to domestic UA passengers. This means:
  1. United *G members may access the lounge on domestic itineraries, even though they wouldn't be allowed free access to the United Clubs on such itineraries.
  2. Passengers who otherwise have United Club access, whether due to a paid membership or a foreign *G card, have the option of a vastly superior lounge in IAD.
What is the Lufthansa Lounge at IAD like?
There are two floors to the lounge: the concourse level, where you enter and check in, which also has the Senator lounge with ample windows; and the lower level, which has the Business lounge and showers. (The showers are very nice; on par with Senator lounge showers in Lufthansa's Frankfurt hub.)

The Senator lounge offers a complimentary buffet throughout the day, including hot dishes, salads, and dry snacks, and has draught beer and a full open bar including champagne, available upon request.

[Need description of FTL offering. Include photos?]

How do I get there?
The lounge is located at the center of the B concourse, from where non-US airlines depart, to the right of the Aerotrain escalators as you enter the concourse from the train.

Hours have changed seasonally, but, as of April 2014, are 8:20 to 21:30 except Mondays, when the lounge closes at 17:30. It also closes daily from 12:00 to 13:30. Some report the lounge opening earlier on occasion and some report it closing earlier on occasion.

From TSA/check-in, the B concourse is one stop away by Aerotrain, but in the opposite direction of the C concourse from where most United flights depart. Allow 20 minutes between the center of the C concourse and the Lufthansa Lounge. The longest part of the trip is the walk between the C concourse proper and its Aerotrain stop. Between concourses B and C, the Aerotrain makes two stops: one at concourse A and one at the main terminal/TSA/baggage claim.

How do I get inside?
With...
  • Any Star Gold (*G) card (including UA Premier Gold and higher) and a same-day departing *A boarding pass in any class to any destination, domestic or international. There are reports (April 2014) that the physical card is no longer necessary; a *G designation on the boarding pass reflected in the barcode may be sufficient. (Senator lounge, 1 guest)
  • A LH/LX HON/SEN card and a same-day departing or arriving *A boarding pass to/from any destination, domestic or international. (Senator lounge, 1 guest [plus spouse if HON] plus children under 18)
  • A LH/LX FTL card and a same-day departing *A boarding pass in any class to any destination, domestic or international. (Business lounge, no guests)
  • A LH Premium Economy boarding pass with ($35 adult/$20 2-12yo child) lounge pass purchased at the ticket counter. [Can it be paid at the entrance?] (Business lounge, no guests)
  • A United Club or Maple Leaf Lounge Worldwide membership card and a same-day departing *A boarding pass in any class to any destination, domestic or international. (Business lounge, 1 guest)
  • A same-day international departing *A First (Senator lounge, 1 guest) or Business (Business lounge, no guests) boarding pass
  • A same-day arriving LH/LX First boarding pass. (Senator lounge, 1 guest)

In all cases, each guest must also present a same-day *A boarding pass for admission.

Lounge access for travel in a domestic premium cabin is not regulated by *A; as such, UA F domestic passengers (without other credentials) do not have access to the LH Lounge according to *A.com, just as they do not have access to the United Clubs. However, the international requirement for C/F tickets is conspicuously absent from Lufthansa's own lounge access sheet (see below), and domestic UA F passengers have reported admission. (Senator lounge, 1 guest)
[If we get (semi-)official confirmation of this policy, we'll add this to the bullets.]

Provided the lounge does not get overcrowded, as is often the case on US-based LH lounges, you may exit and re-enter the lounge as often as you wish. Note that if you are entering on a lounge pass, which are issued by Lufthansa to their own elites for various reasons, re-entry might not be allowed.

(If your access question wasn't addressed by the above, first check the *A access policy and LH's official access policy [generally relying on the least restrictive policy of the two if they appear to conflict], and if they answer a question that this wiki couldn't, update this wiki to help others! And if they don't, ask in the thread!)

So, can I use the lounge upon arrival in IAD?
Only LH/LX SEN/HON (on any *A carrier) and LH/LX F passengers have access to the lounge upon arrival at IAD without regard to onward travel. See the list above for more details. There are reports, however, of passengers not meeting this criteria presenting their arriving boarding pass and still being admitted.

Furthermore, note that, by virtue of not having access to the terminal, no international passenger whose journey ends at IAD has access to the lounge; they will be ferried by mobile lounge to the International Arrivals Building, which deposits passengers landside. [Can pax without checked bags choose to clear CBP in concourse C regardless? Also, do arriving passengers on LH/LX/*A F/C connecting at IAD to Y-class flights have access? According to LH.com, pax arriving in C on LH/LX can use the lounges in Germany and at JFK upon arrival to freshen up. Is the same courtesy extended at IAD?]

How does the Senator lounge compare to the newest Senator lounges in FRA?
Not favorably. The Senator lounge is like the old FRA lounges (cramped, and before a LH flight departure, crowded). Perhaps due to the crowding, LH offers its departing F pax preboarding from the Senator lounge, something which the FRA/MUC FCT/FCL does not offer but is common among LH's outstation lounges. So, enjoying champagne and macadamias at the nose or upper deck while waiting is a nice feature of the IAD Senator lounge.

This sounds too good to be true!
Lufthansa agrees! If the rumors are true, as of January 1, 2015, LH's Business Lounges will become its *G lounges, which means non-LH *Gs will be directed downstairs to the Business lounge after that date. There's some discussion of exceptions, most notable being that *G traveling in longhaul business class will still be admitted to the SEN lounge. Lufthansa has been more generous than most *A airlines in admitting *Gs to its designated *A First class lounges—not even UA's own 1Ks get to visit United's first class lounges without a first class ticket—so this change will bring Lufthansa somewhat more in line with the rest of the alliance. Went to the LH IAD lounge in June 2016 with TK G and SK BP flying Y, we were directed into the Senator lounge.
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Old Apr 13, 2009, 2:43 pm
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Originally Posted by mecabq
Hysterical!

Am I correct in assuming that this is a Star Alliance lounge, so a United *G can use it even if flying outbound on a UA-operated international flight?
this got me thinking...are there other *G lounges in US domestic airports that one can access on a domestic ticket?

i'm looking forward to trying out this lounge on my way to SFO on 4/30.
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Old Apr 13, 2009, 3:30 pm
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Originally Posted by haddon90
this got me thinking...are there other *G lounges in US domestic airports that one can access on a domestic ticket?
Just the SFO SKL and IAD SEN lounges AFAIK (and if you're really creative maybe some more lounges at LAX).
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Old Apr 13, 2009, 3:43 pm
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Originally Posted by haddon90
this got me thinking...are there other *G lounges in US domestic airports that one can access on a domestic ticket?

i'm looking forward to trying out this lounge on my way to SFO on 4/30.
There has been chatter in the past about the LH lounge at ATL. I don't remember a conclusion as to whether or not we'd get in, and in any case the lounge is a Loooong way from UAs gates, and the hours are short.

Not, back to IAD. Those pictures make it look like the food area was drop shipped intact straight from FRA or MUC, I'm guessing that even the panels behind the food open allowing the food to be restocked from the back?? Did they also fly over the LH dragon ladies?

I wish I had known about this lounge last week.
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Old Apr 13, 2009, 3:51 pm
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Originally Posted by lucky9876coins
...maybe some more lounges at LAX).
How do you figure?

I can't wait for my late flight out of IAD next week. Maybe they'll have their liquor license by then.
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Old Apr 13, 2009, 3:56 pm
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Originally Posted by gre
How do you figure?
I think he means creative as in finding ways to get past the TSA in other terminals to access other lounges.
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Old Apr 13, 2009, 4:18 pm
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Originally Posted by SEA1K4EVR
I think he means creative as in finding ways to get past the TSA in other terminals to access other lounges.
I hear there might be ways to take advantage of tunnels and inter-terminal buses past security, but I'm no expert on that.
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Old Apr 13, 2009, 7:37 pm
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Originally Posted by lucky9876coins
I hear there might be ways to take advantage of tunnels and inter-terminal buses past security, but I'm no expert on that.
Well, I can get from terminals 8 to 5, and there's only the RCC in 7 that I know of, so if you know of any way to get to say TBIT, let me know... please!

I pass through LAX regularly on MRs and would love to try out any lounges I can get into.
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Old Apr 13, 2009, 7:45 pm
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Originally Posted by milepig
Not, back to IAD. Those pictures make it look like the food area was drop shipped intact straight from FRA or MUC, I'm guessing that even the panels behind the food open allowing the food to be restocked from the back?? Did they also fly over the LH dragon ladies?

I wish I had known about this lounge last week.
LOL! I was on a MR to ZRH this weekend through IAD and passed through the LHR lounge in both directions. In fact, the same young fellow at the front desk checked me in each time.

I think the panel must be the same because a hand reached out to re-stock some food as I was helping myself - completely freaked me out!

I will say that this is a great + to the IAD options. I usually head over to concourse B on any layover just because it's cleaner and quieter. The added bonus now of the LH lounge is great.
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Old Apr 13, 2009, 7:56 pm
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Originally Posted by SEA1K4EVR
I think he means creative as in finding ways to get past the TSA in other terminals to access other lounges.
And even then you may be turned away. Though I had no trouble getting into the Maple Leaf Lounge in T2 at LAX (no better than the RCC except for free booze), I had trouble getting into the NZ Lounge. I got in, but at first they claimed that they would be responsible for me if the terminal was closed down for security reasons () and so I should just go over to the UA lounge.
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Old Apr 14, 2009, 12:30 am
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Originally Posted by lucky9876coins
Just the SFO SKL and IAD SEN lounges AFAIK (and if you're really creative maybe some more lounges at LAX).
And the LH lounge at DFW, even though it is a contract lounge for LH, *G's have access during the hours that the LH lounge is open. I know it sounds weird to mention you have access when it is open, but the checkin desk is shared among a few different airlines / lounges and this is the information I received from the desk in May of 08)
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Old Apr 14, 2009, 12:34 am
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Originally Posted by MatthewLAX
And even then you may be turned away. Though I had no trouble getting into the Maple Leaf Lounge in T2 at LAX (no better than the RCC except for free booze), I had trouble getting into the NZ Lounge. I got in, but at first they claimed that they would be responsible for me if the terminal was closed down for security reasons () and so I should just go over to the UA lounge.
I would beg to differ on the MLL not being better than the RCC. Soup and Salad are available during lunch and dinner hours, and it has recently been given a smattering of lipstick to bring it up to date a little. Oh... and free wifi!
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Old Apr 14, 2009, 12:35 am
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Oh... and to stay on topic I have purposefully routed my return from the Freddies through IAD to have some lunch, and hopefully a beer by then!
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Old Apr 20, 2009, 12:39 pm
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I'm in the LH senator lounge at IAD right now.. Pretty nice! Theres probably about 5 other people in here besides me.

Still no beer flowing from the beer taps though

Food is decent. I like the buffet style to get the food and drink. Any other FTers in here?
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Old Apr 20, 2009, 1:16 pm
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Originally Posted by HokieEngineer
I'm in the LH senator lounge at IAD right now.. Pretty nice! Theres probably about 5 other people in here besides me.

Still no beer flowing from the beer taps though

Food is decent. I like the buffet style to get the food and drink. Any other FTers in here?
HokieE, Is there wifi or are you using the lounge computer?
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Old Apr 20, 2009, 1:25 pm
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SiliconValley1K, was that you in the lounge on the 11th trying to tune the tv on to the Masters?

My wife and daughter were with me and we enjoyed a good hour or so in the lounge. It is a very nice lounge but will be even better when they get the beer flowing.

Our flight to Munich that day was delayed three hours so we took our daughter on a "lounge tour" of IAD. We went to LH, Northwest and the three RCCs. Yipee!

Originally Posted by SiliconValley1k
Hello. Anybody out there that can confirm the opening time as to what is actually occurring (seems like that signs and web sites say 1pm, and some personal experiences point to 2pm)? Any recent experiences....i.e. in the last 72 hours or so?

I will be there this Saturday (April 11) arriving IAD around 11:30am and have the afternoon to kill at IAD and.......thanks to this great thread......will be hitting the LH lounge. I am 1K, *G, and traveling same day international departure and upgraded to C. As such, seems like I will get at least senator lounge if section if not better. Really just want a shower, to stretch out, and maybe a warm german pretzel. Thanks!
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