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Old Jun 2, 08, 12:09 pm   #1426
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1984?

Lotus-1-2-3-esque?
Got me there. D'oh.
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Old Jun 2, 08, 1:03 pm   #1427
 
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Dedicated program or Excel-esque?
I actually have both. An Excel spreadsheet I set up years ago, and then I have a dedicated logbook program I purchased online. These dedicated programs only came out within the past decade or so, so my Excel logbook covers time before that.
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Old Jun 2, 08, 4:33 pm   #1428
 
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In 10+ years of being based at SFO for United, however, I've probably done it once or twice, and that was on the Shuttle. I doubt it happens very often in today's fuel environment.
Had it just a couple of weeks ago in a 737.

What a treat!
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Old Jun 2, 08, 8:45 pm   #1429
 
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Question for Gumpfs since you fly the 777's. I see that UA's new IAD-Dubai route will be operated with a 777. The westbound flight is showing to be 7,063 miles with a flight time of about 15 hours. Is this pushing the operational capability of the 777-200ER? I've heard that some westbound flights from IAD to Asia once a while need to make a fuel stop during strong winds and I wondered whether this is going to be a possibility with the Dubai flights? Thanks!
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Old Jun 2, 08, 9:04 pm   #1430
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Question for Gumpfs since you fly the 777's. I see that UA's new IAD-Dubai route will be operated with a 777. The westbound flight is showing to be 7,063 miles with a flight time of about 15 hours. Is this pushing the operational capability of the 777-200ER? I've heard that some westbound flights from IAD to Asia once a while need to make a fuel stop during strong winds and I wondered whether this is going to be a possibility with the Dubai flights? Thanks!
While I'm sure gumpfs can do a much better job of answering the question than I am, it's important to remember that UA flew a 777 for a long time on ORD-HKG, which is 7700+ miles and generally over 15 hours in the air.
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Old Jun 2, 08, 10:02 pm   #1431
 
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Intersection in the sky?

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Too often to even count. It usually happens several times each domestic flight, sometimes more.
On a flight from ORD to IAD a year ago, we passed through what looked like an "intersection" in the sky. Dozens and dozens of jet trails at 90 degrees to each other. It was facscinating and quite beautiful to see, and the only time I've ever seen anything like it in many years of flying.
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Old Jun 2, 08, 10:15 pm   #1432
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We're required by FAR to keep a bound logbook that shows our currency.
It really says bound? Wow that is so old school these days ... I'm amazed at the requisite record keeping as I know I'd forget every third or fourth flight just because and would always be struggling to keep up with the reconciliation. Excellent that you and others can keep this up so completely.

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I always told myself that if I ever interviewed for another flying job, all things being equal, the guy with the most concise record keeping and met the letter of the law for logbooks would get the job.

The time is here, and thankfully, my applications and resume have exact up to date records in bound logbooks. I hope don't actually need it, but, like a lot of other things in the flying business, it's better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
Feel free to ignore this one ... is the time is here b/c you're being proactive or you're expecting the time to be soon given the current (and ongoing) issues with UA? (I'd be sorry to hear that proactive changes in employment are taking place and we're losing the cream of the crop in the process, but I wouldn't be entirely surprised either )

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Old Jun 2, 08, 10:36 pm   #1433
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IAD-DXB almost 700 miles shorter. Still an interesting point about headwinds though...we lament seasonal headwinds in my native CO-land.
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Old Jun 2, 08, 11:06 pm   #1434
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While I'm sure gumpfs can do a much better job of answering the question than I am, it's important to remember that UA flew a 777 for a long time on ORD-HKG, which is 7700+ miles and generally over 15 hours in the air.
I used to fly the LAX/HKG route on DL's MD-11's 15 years or so ago. And the route was listed as 7,200 miles.

Is that "as the crow flies" miles or does it take into account the elliptical over-the-pole route that most Pacific flights follow?

I seem to remember the LAX/HKG route as over 16 hours.
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Old Jun 3, 08, 8:05 am   #1435
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Mileages for commercial flights are based on the (intended) flight path. LAX-HKG is 7,260 miles according to Great Circle.
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OK, gotta ask, what the heck is up with the hat switch? It has been off for two months now, and not that I feel strongly about it, but hasn't it been off for much shorter in the past? At a certain point (ie when it becomes the norm) it loses the little purpose it has, IMO.
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Old Jun 3, 08, 9:56 am   #1437
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On a flight from ORD to IAD a year ago, we passed through what looked like an "intersection" in the sky. Dozens and dozens of jet trails at 90 degrees to each other. It was facscinating and quite beautiful to see, and the only time I've ever seen anything like it in many years of flying.
Next time you decide to drive between Northern and Southern California be sure to checkout the contrails over Avenal. Major intersection easily visible from the ground on a nice day.
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Old Jun 3, 08, 11:44 am   #1438
 
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OK, gotta ask, what the heck is up with the hat switch? It has been off for two months now, and not that I feel strongly about it, but hasn't it been off for much shorter in the past? At a certain point (ie when it becomes the norm) it loses the little purpose it has, IMO.
Have no idea, that's up to our MEC to determine. As a "hat hater" I like it being off and hope it stays off forever

It's easier to see which pilots are with the union with the hat's off switch versus the hat's on switch, so I'd expect the hats being off longer than being on when it is switched around. Remember, it's not for the passengers but for the pilots.
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Old Jun 3, 08, 11:47 am   #1439
 
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On a flight from ORD to IAD a year ago, we passed through what looked like an "intersection" in the sky. Dozens and dozens of jet trails at 90 degrees to each other. It was facscinating and quite beautiful to see, and the only time I've ever seen anything like it in many years of flying.
There are thousands of jet route intersections in the skies. We pass through them all the time. Some are busier than others, but every time you fly you probably pass through intersections.

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Feel free to ignore this one ... is the time is here b/c you're being proactive or you're expecting the time to be soon given the current (and ongoing) issues with UA? (I'd be sorry to hear that proactive changes in employment are taking place and we're losing the cream of the crop in the process, but I wouldn't be entirely surprised either )
Any pilot at United that isn't getting their resume's up to speed and thinking of alternate employment options is asleep at the wheel. With current United management, I have my feelers out on many other job opportunities right now unfortunately.
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Old Jun 3, 08, 11:50 am   #1440
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It's easier to see which pilots are with the union with the hat's off switch versus the hat's on switch, so I'd expect the hats being off longer than being on when it is switched around. Remember, it's not for the passengers but for the pilots.
Interesting. I've seen several hundred pilots in my travels last month, and I'd say no more than five of them hats on, which surprised me. I'm guessing a lot of pilots are pressured into having them off (peer pressure happens at all ages), when they'd really prefer to have them on.
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