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Old Feb 4, 08, 2:24 pm   #796
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Interesting to know! So what is the best timeframe before departure to ask for a cockpit tour/photo shoot? I.e. 30 minutes before departure? 15? 10? 5? When is the work usually done and you're ready to be annoyed by pesky passengers?
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Old Feb 4, 08, 10:40 pm   #797
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How ofter do Pilots have "time to kill" before a takeoff? I thought my picture request would be handled after we landed in MEL.
We got an invite in the cockpit of a 747 mid-flight (chatting with the pilot) and had to wait until they got their stuff together and packed up, after landing before we could enter. It takes a while, particularly as its not just the two of them, but 4 on this particular flight. As the FAs aren't allowed to leave until all passengers have left, they weren't pleased about the delay in getting us to leave.
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Old Feb 5, 08, 12:19 pm   #798
 
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Interesting to know! So what is the best timeframe before departure to ask for a cockpit tour/photo shoot? I.e. 30 minutes before departure? 15? 10? 5? When is the work usually done and you're ready to be annoyed by pesky passengers?
My suggestion, we tend to get very busy about 25 min prior to departure since they slam the door shut 10 prior. If you come by before that, we can give you the tour, or after the flight if we are around.
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Old Feb 6, 08, 11:07 pm   #799
 
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In general, do you think UA pilots would have a preference between Delta or Continental?
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In general, do you think UA pilots would have a preference between Delta or Continental?

Well, from what I hear, there are different viewpoints:

1) Most would rather remain independent, but if merging means we get rid of Tilton and our management, then it would be a good thing. Right now it is just steering around the Titanic.

2) If a pilot commutes from Atlanta, they want Delta. If they commute from Houston, they want Continental

3) A lot of pilots kind of dislike the Delta Double-breasted suit military like culture over there, versus the more relaxed culture of CAL, so they prefer CAL.

4) Yet, CAL just entered ALPA after many years as an independent airline because so many of their pilots are former SCABS from the Eastern days, so many pilots have heartburn about merging with them and potentially having a former Scab move in front of them in seniority during the merger.

5) So, each pilot has their own pro's and con's I guess. My personal is I want a merger if it gets rid of Tilton, that is my #1 priority. CAL or DAL makes no difference to me, although I think CAL is a better match.
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Old Feb 7, 08, 7:46 am   #801
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I know SCABS have been brought up before in this thread, although I can't find an exact definition. Would you mind explaining exactly what that is? Thanks in advance!
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I know SCABS have been brought up before in this thread, although I can't find an exact definition. Would you mind explaining exactly what that is? Thanks in advance!
The general definition is somebody who chooses to cross picket lines and take the place of a striking worker.
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In general, do you think UA pilots would have a preference between Delta or Continental?
I can pretty much echo what AD said. But since we don't have many Atlanta or Houston commuters on the west coast , I would say most people seem to prefer Continental, assuming we have to merge at all. I know that would be my preference.
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The general definition is somebody who chooses to cross picket lines and take the place of a striking worker.
and this could be a current union member who crosses the line (be it for financial hardship reasons or something else) or someone who is brought in from out side the union to cross the line.

picket duty: goalie will always honor a picket line
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Goalie, sounds like you are part of the "Vocal Minority." Do you have a wrist band?
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Goalie, sounds like you are part of the "Vocal Minority." Do you have a wrist band?
I do

The joke about that is that we were not the minority as Glenn Tilton said. The vast majority of pilots are tired of this management team and want changes, so the "Vocal Minority" wrist bands were to highlight that Glenn was wrong in his assertion that it was just a small minority of pilots protesting him.
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[quote=aluminumdriver;9207374]Well, from what I hear, there are different viewpoints:



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4) Yet, CAL just entered ALPA after many years as an independent airline because so many of their pilots are former SCABS from the Eastern days, so many pilots have heartburn about merging with them and potentially having a former Scab move in front of them in seniority during the merger.
Clarification.

CAL hired SCABS in 1983,the Eastern strike was later.

No one is a former SCAB.

Once a SCAB always a SCAB.
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Goalie, sounds like you are part of the "Vocal Minority." Do you have a wrist band?
no and i wish i did-if anyone has an extra one they'd care to part with, please pm me so i can send you my address
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I notice lately, more and more ATC and sometimes first officers converse with each other without airline designation before the flight number. i.e. Instead of saying united 1174, they say 1174 without united.

Sometimes instead of saying altitude at one three thousand, they say thirteen thousand. I thought the whole idea of saying one three thousand is not to be confused with thirty thousand.

Is that just slopping practice or commonly accepted practice?
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I notice lately, more and more ATC and sometimes first officers converse with each other without airline designation before the flight number. i.e. Instead of saying united 1174, they say 1174 without united.

Sometimes instead of saying altitude at one three thousand, they say thirteen thousand. I thought the whole idea of saying one three thousand is not to be confused with thirty thousand.

Is that just slopping practice or commonly accepted practice?
I wouldn't call it sloppy, more just common practice. While what you say is correct according to the AIM, many pilots do kind of shorten up the call to stay brief. An example might be "United 1174 maintain 13,000'" and the pilot says "United 1174 maintain one three thousand" and then ATC says "also maintain 250 knots" and you hear" two five zero knots, 1174" just to shorten it up. Not saying it's right, but it's very common.
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