New question: what's the maximum crosswind that you have landed in (and what aircraft) during normal passenger operations? Is there a United-specific limit on what wind you will attempt a landing in, and is it more stringent compared to say, cargo flying where there are no passengers to worry about?
New question: what's the maximum crosswind that you have landed in (and what aircraft) during normal passenger operations? Is there a United-specific limit on what wind you will attempt a landing in, and is it more stringent compared to say, cargo flying where there are no passengers to worry about?
Each aircraft has its own limits, and then the limits are adjusted based on the runway conditions and braking actions and whether we're doing an autoland. Also, our limits are max demontrated winds, but it is up to the Captain's discretion on actual wind limits. I think this is covered earlier in this thread where we talk about XW limits.
As for whether a cargo jet would have higher winds than passenger jets, I would have to guess no. It is the pilot's safety taken into account, passengers or boxes, doesn't matter. Most of the time the limits come out of the aircraft maker, so a 767 carrying pax would probably be the same as a 767 carrying cargo.
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OK, totally random question-- where is Captain Steve Wallach (I can use that name, he's the chairman of the United MEC) based and what does he fly? Does he flip the switch?
I always enjoy his, erm, viewpoints on the ALPA website, so would love to know if I'm going to run into him one day on a flight.
I'd also be curious to hear what pilots generally think of his job as chairman of the MEC? Good? Bad? Ugly?
OK, totally random question-- where is Captain Steve Wallach (I can use that name, he's the chairman of the United MEC) based and what does he fly? Does he flip the switch?
I always enjoy his, erm, viewpoints on the ALPA website, so would love to know if I'm going to run into him one day on a flight.
I'd also be curious to hear what pilots generally think of his job as chairman of the MEC? Good? Bad? Ugly?
I believe he is a 777 Captain, not sure where he is based. He is doing a great job as our Master Chairman. Much better than the previous two.
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All I can really say is "Holy crap". As a pilot I have a hard enough time remembering the requirements for filing an IFR alternate airport or the limits of class E airspace in mountainous terrain. But all of this on top of it?
So my question is... are you actually familiar with the entire contract and all of these details? Do you really keep track of how long it takes to get from the airport to the hotel and adjust your rest time down to the minute?
Someone put a lot of time and effort into this contract - I am wondering if pilots really know it and use it, or if the contract is just a tool for the union reps and the company to fight each other with.
All I can really say is "Holy crap". As a pilot I have a hard enough time remembering the requirements for filing an IFR alternate airport or the limits of class E airspace in mountainous terrain. But all of this on top of it?
So my question is... are you actually familiar with the entire contract and all of these details? Do you really keep track of how long it takes to get from the airport to the hotel and adjust your rest time down to the minute?
Someone put a lot of time and effort into this contract - I am wondering if pilots really know it and use it, or if the contract is just a tool for the union reps and the company to fight each other with.
Most pilots are familiar with the parts we deal with most of the time, scheduling, assignments, hotels, deadheads, stuff like that. We have a pocket contract we carry with us, and there is also a contract hotline the pilots can call to check on something 24 hours a day. The Company is skidding on our contract continually, so it is a busy job keeping up with all their shenanigans.
We do track our times, duty times, rest times, all of that. The company will use every opportunity to take money from us, so we hold them to the contract as well. I just wish it wasn't written by lawyers so that we could understand it easier
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All I can really say is "Holy crap". As a pilot I have a hard enough time remembering the requirements for filing an IFR alternate airport or the limits of class E airspace in mountainous terrain. But all of this on top of it?
So my question is... are you actually familiar with the entire contract and all of these details? Do you really keep track of how long it takes to get from the airport to the hotel and adjust your rest time down to the minute?
Someone put a lot of time and effort into this contract - I am wondering if pilots really know it and use it, or if the contract is just a tool for the union reps and the company to fight each other with.
That link is to a summary of our contract. The full version is about 600 pages.
Do we know it? As AD indicated, we know the parts that affect us, and we have access to it at all times, one way or another. I keep a copy on my laptop computer, which I take with me when I'm on trips.
We do track our rest time to the minute, because we're required by FARs AND our contract to have a certain amount of time behind the door in our hotels, and sometimes, our crew schedulers will try to get us to waive a few minutes of rest time to make on-time departures. The management wants them to do this to avoid re-crewing a flight on short notice. We are protecting our livelihood by being sticklers because if we waive something that is an FAR violation, we can lose our pilots' license.
In a perfect world, there might just be a handshake agreement and mutual respect. This paraphrase from the Reagan-Gorbachev era sums it up nicely: 'Trust with verification".
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Here's a different type of question-- has your perception of your passengers/frequent flyers changed at all since you're on FlyerTalk, be it positive of negative? Feel free to elaborate.
Here's a different type of question-- has your perception of your passengers/frequent flyers changed at all since you're on FlyerTalk, be it positive of negative? Feel free to elaborate.
My only negative perception of passengers has been due to you. Just kidding I guess here are my observations for what it's worth:
1) We have passengers that like United which is good. I hope it is once again the premier airline in the country for your travels and my job.
2) I was surprised at the magnitude of anti-labor/union sentiment here. I knew the union folks said the public didn't care about our issues, but I really felt the public was for right and wrong and stealing from employees to pay management bonuses is wrong in any book. I was surprised by how many here think that is perfectly fine. Chalk it up as a WOW moment for me.
3) We have some people here that really like CH 9, and hopefully with the discussions have a better idea why CH 9 may be on or not how to tactfully handle the situation.
4) It has been interesting to hear what people like to hear on a flight (calm voice in turbulence or no PA announcements, they wake me up) so I can think of these while working a flight. I always tried to keep my pax updated on issues but I do make a consciencous effort to do it more.
All in all I enjoy the interaction and will continue to offer my viewpoint from the other side of the bulletproof reinforced fortress door. Thanks for asking Lucky.
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2) I was surprised at the magnitude of anti-labor/union sentiment here. I knew the union folks said the public didn't care about our issues, but I really felt the public was for right and wrong and stealing from employees to pay management bonuses is wrong in any book. I was surprised by how many here think that is perfectly fine. Chalk it up as a WOW moment for me.
Don't worry, there are some of us who still like you guys. There are people who see people who get paid 100k+ for 80 'hours' of work a month (or whatever they think you actually do, even though we know its alot more), and they think you have it made. Its like people who think major league ball players are spoiled. They may be, but for every ball player you see making $7M a year, theres some kid taking a bus in New Mexico between two cities you never heard of counting his $12 he has hoping he can get an extra slice of pizza. These guys aren't home for 7-8 months a year, live in hotels away from family and friends for the HOPE that they MAY one day get to be a utility player in the majors. No one sees that every day grind of those who never make it. They see the guy who has 7 houses and 4 cars just on Friday and they call the entire group of players greedy. I have nothing for respect for organized labor, and I believe there are many people out there who agree with me. However, people are now taught that Unions are lazy and make things slow to move, when management is more of the problem...And I don't work in a field that even HAS unions. :-)
Hello.
I just found this sight quite by chance.
I have to congratulate the job that my fellow pilots have done with the information presented here. Well done!
After flying for UAL for 27 years, retired as a Boeing 747 Capt. I have to make the observation that things do not change at UAL, most of our passengers can not relate clearly as to what the life of a pilot is like at all !!!!. The disinformation is quite effective!
Sad, but they will never know, or understand. Our career is so different from maistream that unless you are a pilot you can not begin to grasp what this is about.
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First of all, thanks to the pilots for the excellent technical information contained in this thread.
I have a request for a moderator, and I don't know where else to put it. Is it possible for all the anti-UA management rhetoric (and the anti-union stuff as well) to be restricted to a single thread (i.e. call it "here is where we ..... about UA management and UA unions")? This way, extremely useful threads LIKE THIS ONE are not taken off track - that is likely the reason why very few posts are in this thread in the last few days, as it is now just another "anti-UA management" thread.
I know this is a difficult problem for moderators, but I think is must be solved for the health of this forum.
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Hello.
I just found this sight quite by chance.
I have to congratulate the job that my fellow pilots have done with the information presented here. Well done!
After flying for UAL for 27 years, retired as a Boeing 747 Capt. I have to make the observation that things do not change at UAL, most of our passengers can not relate clearly as to what the life of a pilot is like at all !!!!. The disinformation is quite effective!
Sad, but they will never know, or understand. Our career is so different from maistream that unless you are a pilot you can not begin to grasp what this is about.
A zen principle, what is....simply is. And the beat goes on!
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Um, what?
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