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Old Apr 2, 2009, 8:18 pm
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Originally Posted by ozstamps
I fly this Saturday.

And dopey related question .. . what kind of power outlets do they usually use in Russia?

I will be sitting in transit area for 2-3 hours and will use lap top ... I have USA, UK, OZ and 2 pin Europe type "male" plugs .. what one to bring does anyone know?
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Old Apr 2, 2009, 9:12 pm
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Originally Posted by JenGal
There have been past threads that said the LH lounge was not accepting *A Gold, even though the sign outside indciated it was for *A Gold members ... and LH's website clearly states that *A Gold members can use it. I guess it is something about the lounge being run under contract so they were only going to allow those gold members that were on a LH flight. Anyone know if this has changed? I finally got *A Gold this year and really want to get into one of the lounges, particularly the LH lounge, but would settle on another if needed.
I was in St. Petersburg (LED) this week, on a Lufthansa flight, and my wife and I went to the "Pulkova Lounge" which had Lufthansa on the sign out front. They were going to let me in, but not my wife. They said that Lufthansa doesn't allow a guest. Apparently *A lounges are supposed to allow a guest, but not necessarily an airport lounge. I'm pretty sure that if it wasn't a Lufthansa flight (or another airline on the sign) they wouldn't have let me in either. I'm actually glad they wouldn't let us in, because it was smoky.
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Old Apr 2, 2009, 10:31 pm
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Do i need my 1p card to enter the LH or LX lounge, or will my boarding pass do? Also, i've got my skyteam E+ with my NW Platinum, wonder if i can enter the SU lounge, i do have a DTW-YXU on NW following my DEM-IAD flight.
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Old Apr 3, 2009, 4:23 am
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Originally Posted by MilesDependent
I know Kiwi Flyer (king or same plane turns) has had issues where a return trip is not classified as a transit, as a transit needs to be to a third country.
This is correct. If you get an anal agent who knows the rules at checkin, they will not allow you to board. It is a technicality but they are well within their rights to do this and it has happened plenty of times before.
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Old Apr 3, 2009, 5:52 am
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Originally Posted by MilesDependent

Ozstamps - you fly more than most around here, so telling you to 1) make sure you get to the airport to check-in really early, and 2) getting UA to put into your PNR in advance that no visa is required, is probably not neccesary.
Having been to Moscow 3 times in the last 6 months I can tell you the Russian authorities will not give a rat's a** what is in a PNR, nor would they even have access to it.
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Old Apr 3, 2009, 6:33 am
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Originally Posted by worldtrav
Having been to Moscow 3 times in the last 6 months I can tell you the Russian authorities will not give a rat's a** what is in a PNR, nor would they even have access to it.
Of course... That's not my point. Who cares once he gets to Moscow, what are they going to do, send him back on the first flight. My point is around check-in at IAD and getting UA to let him on the IAD-DME flight.

As for not having access... I wouldn't be so sure. At least here in Australia the customs authorities have access to all in-coming passenger's PNRs. That is largely how they profile people in advance. They look who the PNR is linked with (i.e. people with a record), who booked the ticket and their location, what other destinations they have travelled to on the PNR etc. I suspect most countries do this. But, that discussion is for another topic. You are right in that they certainly wouldn't care about any visa notation!

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Old Apr 3, 2009, 7:13 am
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Originally Posted by spkg
Do i need my 1p card to enter the LH or LX lounge, or will my boarding pass do?
You need your 1P card. LH is well known to be particularly insistent about this. You can always ask though, worst they can say is no.

Originally Posted by spkg
Also, i've got my skyteam E+ with my NW Platinum, wonder if i can enter the SU lounge, i do have a DTW-YXU on NW following my DEM-IAD flight.
No, you need to be departing DME on a ST flight. Again, you can always ask.
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Old Apr 3, 2009, 8:01 am
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Originally Posted by ozstamps
I'm getting off the UA plane and waiting for it to be cleaned and re-supplied etc, and flying 10 hours back to IAD.

So hopefully these lounges are near where one gets OFF, i.e. I do not want to go thru immigration, as I skipped the $200 Visa tango nonsense/rort.

Transit is fine I just hope I can get to ONE of these lounges, and yes .. any input on which is nicest is appreciated!
Originally Posted by MilesDependent
Flying to Russia without a visa? I presume you've looked into whether you'll be able to board.
Originally Posted by buaya00
I was just going to ask the same. I don't think UA will allow you to board without a visa. Issue would be if the plane goes MX or soemthing. How would the situation play out then?
The Russian visa office in DC says it is not necessary.

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Old Apr 5, 2009, 8:57 pm
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Originally Posted by MilesDependent


Ozstamps - you fly more than most around here, so telling you to 1) make sure you get to the airport to check-in really early, and 2) getting UA to put into your PNR in advance that no visa is required, is probably not necessary.

As I posted before I left, there was no issue with no Visa.

The ESSENTIAL part is to get the USA UA folks to print the DME-IAD boarding pass or you are TOAST is my guess.

LH lounge welcomes Star G.

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Old Apr 9, 2009, 8:39 pm
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DME

I left on Wednesday on a flight with almost as many crew deadheading (from the cancelled Monday Flight) as passengers. Most were talking about the extra days of sightseeing they were afforded in Moscow, a city few had visited before.

DME is certainly a vast improvement on SVO; modern with "regular" style check in counters. At SVO, I was often subject to bag exam and content questioning before check in and a rather lame lounge. (Not to mention the myriad copper circles on the ceiling.)

I used the LH lounge which has great views of the flight line. I was quickly waved in with my RCC card. Bar, snacks and steam table. Four computers in a separate room.

A cursory exam shows that the "duty free" prices were much lower at the stores on the lower level than at the first store after security.

Boarding was standard UA procedure with local staff reading the announcements from the official UA book o' speeches. Channel 9 was on with the usual 767 whine, but like the incoming flight, interesting to hear the Russian ATCs.

They now have Russian prepared meals in lieu of deadheading in supplies from IAD as on the first week. Like Ozstamps, I was in row 20 with a blocked seat adjacent. Chicken or Pasta.

Good flight, and certainly easier that the connex at FRA I've been making for years.
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Old Apr 9, 2009, 8:52 pm
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Originally Posted by MilesDependent

My point is around check-in at IAD and getting UA to let him on the IAD-DME flight.
My detailed trip report is here:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trip-...-new-post.html

No need for any kind of Visa I found.

Full OFFICIAL wording is on there to prove this is the case - in both Russian and English languages.

I'd strongly suggest BOTH are printed out and taken with you for those doing same day turns as I did.
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Old Apr 9, 2009, 8:57 pm
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Originally Posted by ozstamps
My detailed trip report is here:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trip-...-new-post.html

No need for any kind of Visa I found.
Great report!! You guys convinced me to do a MR to DME. I'm headed there on 4/25
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Old Apr 9, 2009, 11:51 pm
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Originally Posted by spkg
Also, i've got my skyteam E+ with my NW Platinum, wonder if i can enter the SU lounge
1. SU doesn't serve DME.

2. Believe me, you will NOT want to go to the SU lounge at SVO. I flew SU only twice and it is a decent airline (in Business Class), but the lounge at SVO is a JOKE. After the visit, I realised there is a Diners Club lounge at SVO, which I should have used (as nothing can be worse than this SU lounge). You need an invitation to get to the SU lounge, that will be printed for you upon check-in.
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Old Jul 12, 2010, 4:20 pm
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Need Intel on UA's Service at DME

Hi all -

I'm flying UA's IAD-DME route later this month for a two week sojourn in Russia. I'm looking for general advice and intel about the route, and Moscow travel in general. I've already read MatthewLAX's superb review here, but could stand to learn a bit more, and get general advice.

-Lounges: there are varying reports on FT about who can access what lounges at DME - OS, LH, LX all appear to have lounges there. *A's website only lists the LX lounge though. I'm in UA Business, and am a 1K. What have experiences been there? Which would you go with?

-Times: How early did you arrive to come back to IAD from DME? If my experiences at the NYC Russian Consulate are any guide, lines are little but a suggestion... so I can only imagine what a security checkpoint might be like...

-SIM Card for a phone: I have a totally unlocked iPhone 3GS i bought while in Hong Kong, and will need to get a SIM in Moscow - preferably with data service. Any advice?

Any other general advice and suggestions would be appreciated as well!

Большое спасибо!
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Old Jul 12, 2010, 4:38 pm
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I used the OS lounge in DME last time I flew through there and was very pleased. Nice views of the (I believe) Eastern runway, pretty good food, definitely good liquor. It's a bit of a walk from the United gate, further than the LH lounge if I remember correctly, but nothing too bad.

I don't remember security being particularly difficult, maybe 5-10 minutes more than your usual busy American airport. I've never had a bad time going through DME security.

Can't comment on a data plan since I usually just get a cheap phone when in Russia.

счастливого пути!
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