Are 1Ks the Worst Gate Lice? [Merged Threads]
#61
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I must be weird. Ii prefer to board near last wherever possible.
I do not move house via UA flights, like many Americans, so no need to stuff 4 carry ons into several bins, rudely holding up the rest of the boarding passengers.
Hanging around a gate for 30 minutes instead of finishing a drink in the RCC has VERY little appeal.
I do not move house via UA flights, like many Americans, so no need to stuff 4 carry ons into several bins, rudely holding up the rest of the boarding passengers.
Hanging around a gate for 30 minutes instead of finishing a drink in the RCC has VERY little appeal.
#62
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Simple solution...shut the 4th side of the stantions until u the agent calls for red carpet boarding. It is not a perfect solution by any means, but lets everyone know that until red carpet is called, EVERYONE is a gate louse.
But alas, this runs counter to the purpose, of making the red carpet people feel special. By the fact that the line up shows it is working, it strokes their egos, which is the purpose.
But alas, this runs counter to the purpose, of making the red carpet people feel special. By the fact that the line up shows it is working, it strokes their egos, which is the purpose.
I think it is a little short sited to call recognizing some of your better customers as ego stroking. Good marketing tool, nice perk.....ego stroking would be further down on my list.
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I must be weird. Ii prefer to board near last wherever possible.
I do not move house via UA flights, like many Americans, so no need to stuff 4 carry ons into several bins, rudely holding up the rest of the boarding passengers.
Hanging around a gate for 30 minutes instead of finishing a drink in the RCC has VERY little appeal.
I do not move house via UA flights, like many Americans, so no need to stuff 4 carry ons into several bins, rudely holding up the rest of the boarding passengers.
Hanging around a gate for 30 minutes instead of finishing a drink in the RCC has VERY little appeal.
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Interestingly, most of the airlines I've been flying lately have
gone to the two-lane boarding. It's not an UA aberration
(in fact, I believe CO started it).
gone to the two-lane boarding. It's not an UA aberration
(in fact, I believe CO started it).
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So, this is nothing unique to UA. Why should UA elite flyers not have this benefit because Granny-One-A-Year can't follow simple instructions? On the same note, granted I fly out of there often, I know when I'm flying out of Hong Kong, that they're going to board GS first, then F, then 1K. I know to stay out of the way until 1Ks are called. I'm not upset by the way they board--I actually think it's great. I know my place. If I didn't, I'd still listen to what the gate agent says and ahere to it.
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I feel the same way. Ever since I saw Fergie (the royal, not the singer) being whisked onto my plane at the last second I've realized the luxury of being among the last to board. This was back when she was still a member of the royal family.
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Do I sense just a little bit of "sour grapes" from the 1P> crowd here? Yes, I admit, I do enjoy pre-boarding, having plenty of room for my carry-on, pre-departure drinks, etc. - But mostly, I just LOVE to be the first passenger to walk onto an empty plane. Wouldn't stand in line an hour before boarding, but I'm happy to start the line 10min prior.
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I bring up the "gate lice" issue every time I fill out a survey on ualsurvey.com. I generally don't stand in line. My usual MO is to grab a seat in the waiting area near the front of the line and insert myself when zone 1 is called. It's never been a problem given that there are usually at least 2 separate streams of people merging into the blue carpet anyway. I also have no sympathy for people who feel I should move to the back of the line. It's not like anyone forced them to stand there for 20 minutes.
Worst case of red carpet swarming I've seen was probably SFO, over 20 minutes before boarding a flight for ORD. Naturally, the regular line was even worse.
Although seating in the waiting areas is an issue, it'd be so much nicer if the GAs could make an announcement that everyone should keep the boarding lanes clear until their zone/group has been called. As to one suggestion above (red carpet, blue carpet, no carpet lanes), I don't think further stratification in the boarding process is necessarily the solution (or maybe it is). What is true is that there needs to be more order and consistency in boarding process across stations.
Worst case of red carpet swarming I've seen was probably SFO, over 20 minutes before boarding a flight for ORD. Naturally, the regular line was even worse.
Although seating in the waiting areas is an issue, it'd be so much nicer if the GAs could make an announcement that everyone should keep the boarding lanes clear until their zone/group has been called. As to one suggestion above (red carpet, blue carpet, no carpet lanes), I don't think further stratification in the boarding process is necessarily the solution (or maybe it is). What is true is that there needs to be more order and consistency in boarding process across stations.
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As one from the 'last to board is best' school of thought (AFTER general boarding is completed if possible), to me the gate red carpet is a total godsend: if boarding has been delayed and there is a long line of general pax boarding the red carpet queue is typically already well cleared out of the 'first to board is best' ilk and I walk right on.
The bottom line to me is the less time spent in the boarding area the better. Boarding areas are stress-zones, and for no good reason. After all, we are all going to take off and arrive at the same time. So the current system serves me VERY well and keeps me in the boarding area for as brief a time as possible.
As for the overhead bin space, I've had a few close calls but never had to gate-check. There's usually closet space if nothing else....
The bottom line to me is the less time spent in the boarding area the better. Boarding areas are stress-zones, and for no good reason. After all, we are all going to take off and arrive at the same time. So the current system serves me VERY well and keeps me in the boarding area for as brief a time as possible.
As for the overhead bin space, I've had a few close calls but never had to gate-check. There's usually closet space if nothing else....
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Err.. It's not about needing something during flight. It is to do with avoiding checking bags! Using the overhead bins is not abusing it!
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For me, it depends on several factors for lining up on the Red Carpet.
1) Bulkhead 737 in F/C....Line up early...15 minutes...
2) B-757 from say LAX-SFO with mostly NRSA's in F/C.....Right when the boarding time hits.
3) B-757 from say ORD-LAX...15 minutes early so I don't get run over by some idiot waving his gold boarding pass and yelling....."first class...first class" (this has happened a couple of times to me).
4) B-777 3- cabin in C or F....couple of minutes before boarding....
5) B-747 3 -cabin, INTL (especially out of HKG)....couple of minutes before boarding...
1) Bulkhead 737 in F/C....Line up early...15 minutes...
2) B-757 from say LAX-SFO with mostly NRSA's in F/C.....Right when the boarding time hits.
3) B-757 from say ORD-LAX...15 minutes early so I don't get run over by some idiot waving his gold boarding pass and yelling....."first class...first class" (this has happened a couple of times to me).
4) B-777 3- cabin in C or F....couple of minutes before boarding....
5) B-747 3 -cabin, INTL (especially out of HKG)....couple of minutes before boarding...
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For me, it depends on several factors for lining up on the Red Carpet.
1) Bulkhead 737 in F/C....Line up early...15 minutes...
2) B-757 from say LAX-SFO with mostly NRSA's in F/C.....Right when the boarding time hits.
3) B-757 from say ORD-LAX...15 minutes early so I don't get run over by some idiot waving his gold boarding pass and yelling....."first class...first class" (this has happened a couple of times to me).
4) B-777 3- cabin in C or F....couple of minutes before boarding....
5) B-747 3 -cabin, INTL (especially out of HKG)....couple of minutes before boarding...
1) Bulkhead 737 in F/C....Line up early...15 minutes...
2) B-757 from say LAX-SFO with mostly NRSA's in F/C.....Right when the boarding time hits.
3) B-757 from say ORD-LAX...15 minutes early so I don't get run over by some idiot waving his gold boarding pass and yelling....."first class...first class" (this has happened a couple of times to me).
4) B-777 3- cabin in C or F....couple of minutes before boarding....
5) B-747 3 -cabin, INTL (especially out of HKG)....couple of minutes before boarding...
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Hey I have fleas not lice.......... and I must admit i have waited a few times in the "line" when i have way to much carryone luggage in a 737
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Maybe we could take it one step further and have a different lane and color carpet for each level of MP and boarding zone. We could have 9 different lanes and colors of carpet (GS, 1K, 1P, 2P, 3P, Zone 2, Zone 3, Zone 4, Non Rev). Of course we could only do this after removing all of the seating from the gate area due to a lack of space. This would virtually require everyone to line up in their respetive que and make the process look like a line for the "Its A Small World" ride at Disney World. Still think your idea is a good one???
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Heheh, I love seeing that! Nothing cracks me up more than the red carpet circus, with the stereotypical guy with his bluetooth headset, gold BP in his shirt pocket, jockeying the pole with the rope as if there's some massive rush to get aboard. I'm with you, I don't get it, but I do love watching it!
Spot on description, Lucky!!