3-class 757 Transcon Flights Take off Oct 18
Aug 1, 2004, 10:52 pm
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3-class 757 Transcon Flights Take off Oct 18
I just read a WSJ.com (pay site) article on United's new transcon services on the three-class 757. Here are some of the key points in the article:
- Routes: JFK-LAX and JFK-SFO ( 6 daily flights each)
- Thirteen 757 will be outfitted with 110 seats ( 12 F, 26 C and 72Y)
- Handheld personal DVD players provided to F and C customers with choices of 10 films
- All Y are E+
- All seats with laptop plug-ins ^
- International starndard menu for all three cabins
- F seats (68") lay flat; C seats (54") and E+(34")
- Services start October 18, 2004
John Tague, United's Executive VP of Sales and marketing said:"The new, high-end offering on the two transcontinental routes, in planning for more than a year, is the inverse of Ted......it could eventually be applied on a few other routes." ^ ^ ^
- Routes: JFK-LAX and JFK-SFO ( 6 daily flights each)
- Thirteen 757 will be outfitted with 110 seats ( 12 F, 26 C and 72Y)
- Handheld personal DVD players provided to F and C customers with choices of 10 films
- All Y are E+
- All seats with laptop plug-ins ^
- International starndard menu for all three cabins
- F seats (68") lay flat; C seats (54") and E+(34")
- Services start October 18, 2004
John Tague, United's Executive VP of Sales and marketing said:"The new, high-end offering on the two transcontinental routes, in planning for more than a year, is the inverse of Ted......it could eventually be applied on a few other routes." ^ ^ ^
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Aug 1, 2004, 11:10 pm
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Quite an interesting aircraft. 
Aug 1, 2004, 11:10 pm
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I hope they keep certain 763's on the route in addition to these 757's. Although narrow-body it sounds better than the 762's already in service. These could be good for increasing frequency at low-demand times.
It would also be very nice to see this service on SFO/LAX-BOS too.
It would also be very nice to see this service on SFO/LAX-BOS too.
Aug 1, 2004, 11:37 pm
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Originally Posted by UA_Flyer
I just read a WSJ.com (pay site) article on United's new transcon services on the three-class 757. Here are some of the key points in the article:
- Routes: JFK-LAX and JFK-SFO ( 6 daily flights each)
- Thirteen 757 will be outfitted with 110 seats ( 12 F, 26 C and 72Y)
- Handheld personal DVD players provided to F and C customers with choices of 10 films
- All Y are E+
- All seats with laptop plug-ins ^
- International starndard menu for all three cabins
- F seats (68") lay flat; C seats (54") and E+(34")
- Services start October 18, 2004
John Tague, United's Executive VP of Sales and marketing said:"The new, high-end offering on the two transcontinental routes, in planning for more than a year, is the inverse of Ted......it could eventually be applied on a few other routes." ^ ^ ^
- Routes: JFK-LAX and JFK-SFO ( 6 daily flights each)
- Thirteen 757 will be outfitted with 110 seats ( 12 F, 26 C and 72Y)
- Handheld personal DVD players provided to F and C customers with choices of 10 films
- All Y are E+
- All seats with laptop plug-ins ^
- International starndard menu for all three cabins
- F seats (68") lay flat; C seats (54") and E+(34")
- Services start October 18, 2004
John Tague, United's Executive VP of Sales and marketing said:"The new, high-end offering on the two transcontinental routes, in planning for more than a year, is the inverse of Ted......it could eventually be applied on a few other routes." ^ ^ ^
Check out my post from January 20
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112289
"Apparently, 13 757s will be reconfigured to 3-class specifications.
That will leave 84 remaining mainline 75s, assuming none of their leases are rejectified."
Did I call it or what?
Aug 1, 2004, 11:40 pm
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April's fools in August ? 
Aug 1, 2004, 11:44 pm
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Originally Posted by couscous
April's fools in August ?
"We're going to keep our eye on the ball and not be distracted by all this noise," Mr. Tague said.
As proof the company is looking forward, United today plans to announce new premium transcontinental service, between New York and Los Angeles and New York to San Francisco, that it calls "p.s." It will fly Boeing 757 jets with 110 seats in three classes - first, business and economy-plus - replacing Boeing 767 jets on those routes that had been outfitted with 168 seats in three classes.
Taking out the seats will allow the airline to offer an atmosphere akin to that of a private jet, Mr. Tague said. First-class seats will convert to lie-flat beds, and there will be more legroom in each cabin.
As proof the company is looking forward, United today plans to announce new premium transcontinental service, between New York and Los Angeles and New York to San Francisco, that it calls "p.s." It will fly Boeing 757 jets with 110 seats in three classes - first, business and economy-plus - replacing Boeing 767 jets on those routes that had been outfitted with 168 seats in three classes.
Taking out the seats will allow the airline to offer an atmosphere akin to that of a private jet, Mr. Tague said. First-class seats will convert to lie-flat beds, and there will be more legroom in each cabin.
Aug 1, 2004, 11:50 pm
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I wonder how this will be sold/marketed? As a premium flight (higher price) than the regular 762's? How many of the 762 flights will be cut?
Aug 2, 2004, 12:00 am
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Additionally, the power ports will be standard 110V. No empower -- but in a good way! ^
Aug 2, 2004, 12:01 am
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Originally Posted by UA_Flyer
- Routes: JFK-LAX and JFK-SFO ( 6 daily flights each)
- Thirteen 757 will be outfitted with 110 seats ( 12 F, 26 C and 72Y)
- Handheld personal DVD players provided to F and C customers with choices of 10 films
- All Y are E+
- All seats with laptop plug-ins ^
- International starndard menu for all three cabins
- F seats (68") lay flat; C seats (54") and E+(34")
- Services start October 18, 2004
- Thirteen 757 will be outfitted with 110 seats ( 12 F, 26 C and 72Y)
- Handheld personal DVD players provided to F and C customers with choices of 10 films
- All Y are E+
- All seats with laptop plug-ins ^
- International starndard menu for all three cabins
- F seats (68") lay flat; C seats (54") and E+(34")
- Services start October 18, 2004
Do these things have the engines/range to do transatlantic? (I seem to remember CO doing 752 service EWR-AMS but might be wrong.) Are UA's ETOPS certified or would they have to take the long/slow route hugging the Newfoundland/Greenland/Iceland coasts? As much as I'd hate to cut widebody service transatlantic I wonder if these planes could justify "long thin" international routes from the east coast that may have been cut in the last few years.
When was the last time there was a three-class narrowbody in the UA fleet?
Aug 2, 2004, 12:13 am
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Originally Posted by imkeww
That will leave 84 remaining mainline 75s, assuming none of their leases are rejectified.
Aug 2, 2004, 12:16 am
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Originally Posted by nerd
'Rejectified', is that similar to the English word "rejected"?
Aug 2, 2004, 1:24 am
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Originally Posted by UA_Flyer
I just read a WSJ.com (pay site) article on United's new transcon services on the three-class 757. Here are some of the key points in the article:
- Routes: JFK-LAX and JFK-SFO ( 6 daily flights each)
- Thirteen 757 will be outfitted with 110 seats ( 12 F, 26 C and 72Y)
- Handheld personal DVD players provided to F and C customers with choices of 10 films
- All Y are E+
- All seats with laptop plug-ins ^
- International starndard menu for all three cabins
- F seats (68") lay flat; C seats (54") and E+(34")
- Services start October 18, 2004
John Tague, United's Executive VP of Sales and marketing said:"The new, high-end offering on the two transcontinental routes, in planning for more than a year, is the inverse of Ted......it could eventually be applied on a few other routes." ^ ^ ^
- Routes: JFK-LAX and JFK-SFO ( 6 daily flights each)
- Thirteen 757 will be outfitted with 110 seats ( 12 F, 26 C and 72Y)
- Handheld personal DVD players provided to F and C customers with choices of 10 films
- All Y are E+
- All seats with laptop plug-ins ^
- International starndard menu for all three cabins
- F seats (68") lay flat; C seats (54") and E+(34")
- Services start October 18, 2004
John Tague, United's Executive VP of Sales and marketing said:"The new, high-end offering on the two transcontinental routes, in planning for more than a year, is the inverse of Ted......it could eventually be applied on a few other routes." ^ ^ ^
Aug 2, 2004, 1:30 am
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Instead of turnarounds, if they could only operate them JFK-LAX-HNL and JFK-SFO-HNL....Yeah, right. Just wishful thinking, folks.
Aug 2, 2004, 2:12 am
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I imagine it will be 4 (2-2) seats across in F, 5 (3-2) seats across in C and 6 (3-3) seats across in Y. This will make it so the current 767 seats will fit in the 757 with no problem in all classes.
It would be nice if they made it 3 (1-2) across in F and 4 (2-2) across in C which would be a little more spacious.
Either way, I'm glad we're seeing some upgrades on this premium route. These upgrades should hit JetBlue and other companies flying transcons harder even in Y where every seat is E+ and you will have an international meal selection.
The question is... free booze in Y on these flights since they are getting an "international menu"?
It would be nice if they made it 3 (1-2) across in F and 4 (2-2) across in C which would be a little more spacious.
Either way, I'm glad we're seeing some upgrades on this premium route. These upgrades should hit JetBlue and other companies flying transcons harder even in Y where every seat is E+ and you will have an international meal selection.
The question is... free booze in Y on these flights since they are getting an "international menu"?
Aug 2, 2004, 2:15 am
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Originally Posted by studentff
Seriously looking forward to the first time one of these babies gets substituted on a more boring 752 route I fly often (ORD-LAX, ORD-SFO)! ^
Do these things have the engines/range to do transatlantic? (I seem to remember CO doing 752 service EWR-AMS but might be wrong.) Are UA's ETOPS certified or would they have to take the long/slow route hugging the Newfoundland/Greenland/Iceland coasts? As much as I'd hate to cut widebody service transatlantic I wonder if these planes could justify "long thin" international routes from the east coast that may have been cut in the last few years.
When was the last time there was a three-class narrowbody in the UA fleet?
Do these things have the engines/range to do transatlantic? (I seem to remember CO doing 752 service EWR-AMS but might be wrong.) Are UA's ETOPS certified or would they have to take the long/slow route hugging the Newfoundland/Greenland/Iceland coasts? As much as I'd hate to cut widebody service transatlantic I wonder if these planes could justify "long thin" international routes from the east coast that may have been cut in the last few years.
When was the last time there was a three-class narrowbody in the UA fleet?
AA also started using a 752 on its new BOS-MAN route this summer, but just used a plane with regular domestic LRTC configuration, giving the domestic F seats to frequent flyers and full fares.
If they had enough planes, I could definitely see UA testing the water on new transatlantic routings in the medium term (IAD-DUS is one example that immediately springs to mind). IAD-LIS (to tie in with future *A member TAP Air Portugal) would be another. I stress this is pure speculation on my part though!