ANA-UAL joint venture flights and UA upgrades
Jan 18, 2011, 6:55 pm
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ANA-UAL joint venture flights and UA upgrades
Any have news on the joint venture (eff 2011/4/1) flights and UA upgrades will apply to these flights?, and also full 1K 100% bonus will apply?
Jan 18, 2011, 7:29 pm
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The JV shouldn't have any impact on the customer experience. All UA/NH flights will be like any other. The JV is entirely behind the scenes operations and accounting.
Jan 18, 2011, 9:37 pm
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I think the OP is extrapolating the question from the benefits of the UA/LH JV which does give 100% bonus and SWU applicability.
Jan 18, 2011, 9:52 pm
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If it's like the IAD-MAD JV with EI, then flights would be treated exactly like other UA flights - SWUs, lifetime mileage, etc.
Jan 18, 2011, 10:07 pm
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I think the only thing that will change is the mileage accrual agreement... All T and higher fares will earn 100% RDM/EQM and elite bonus...
Jan 18, 2011, 10:34 pm
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Jan 18, 2011, 11:51 pm
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Nailed it right on the head. The NH JV is basically like what we have with AC/CO/LH/US. More close coordination on fares and schedules, possibly more codeshares. Sharing of the profits on over-water flights regardless of who the carrier is.
Jan 18, 2011, 11:56 pm
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Yes, that is I wanted to comfirm that I can use my SWU upgrades on ANA flights like on LH now, and also the 100% Elite bonus (which does not apply currently). the 100% bonus would get me use the NH flights of Taiwan.
Jan 19, 2011, 12:22 am
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Don't know if the SystemWide certs will work with NH. AC/CO/US are part of the same JV with LH but you can't use the upgrade certs with them. However you do get the mileage bonuses with them so I'd say it will most likely apply NH as well.
Jan 19, 2011, 2:18 am
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I'm sure that would get more UA fliers using NH for intra Asia travel as well. If one is torn between OZ and NH (I will always choose OZ, but I'm extremely biased) the NH mileage bonus may get one to choose NH instead. It would also be nice to earn 150% EQM on F and C tickets on NH.
Jan 19, 2011, 7:19 am
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Jan 19, 2011, 9:59 am
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Bonus is likely what we will see but I'm hoping the JV "corrects" the lower than 100% earning on NH Economy fares. 70% earning on a B fare "blows". [see: http://www.united.com/page/article/0,,1182,00.html ]
Keep the 50% earn on T fares but the other economy fares should get a 100% earn.
Even when I post a UA B farecode flight to my ANA Mileage Club account, a B fare is 70%! UGH
Keep the 50% earn on T fares but the other economy fares should get a 100% earn.
Even when I post a UA B farecode flight to my ANA Mileage Club account, a B fare is 70%! UGH
Jan 19, 2011, 11:07 am
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While I don't want to guarantee anything, if you check out the ANA press release linked below and scroll to section 4, you'll see:
http://www.ana.co.jp/eng/aboutana/pr...pdf/110118.pdf
Following the granting of anti-trust immunity by Japan and U.S. authorities, ANA Group will commence its joint venture (JV) with United Airlines and Continental Airlines on trans-pacific routes on April 1, 2011. The three airlines have already worked together through code sharing, mileage alliances, and collocation of departure terminals as Star Alliance partners. Implementation of the JV will call for integration of the airlines’ domestic and international networks, along with common fares, and adjustments to their respective timetables. This will enable passengers to choose from a wider selection of convenient flight combinations, while also retaining each carrier’s unique service features. On routes operated under the JV, passengers will also earn miles under the same terms and conditions of their existing mileage programs, regardless of which airline they choose to fly with. Details of fares will be provided in a separate announcement.
I take that to mean that we'll be getting the 100% RDM's and bonus EQM's as we would if flying United and crediting to mileage plus. http://www.ana.co.jp/eng/aboutana/pr...pdf/110118.pdf
Jan 19, 2011, 11:57 am
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Agreed that the chances of SWU's working on NH is VERY low. NH protects their premium cabins to a huge degree. It's common to be in F from NA or Europe to NRT with 3 or less people occupying the cabin. SWU's would pretty much fill the cabins unless they only allowed a small number per flight to clear.
I just don't think that's in the cards. But man, if it was, I'd love it!
The elite bonus will be good though, that seems a hell of a lot more likely.
I just don't think that's in the cards. But man, if it was, I'd love it!
The elite bonus will be good though, that seems a hell of a lot more likely.
Jan 19, 2011, 4:28 pm
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Good news for HNL!
Looking forward to April! There are only 2 *Alliance carriers out of HNL to Asia and they are UA and NH! I did a B fare once, part UA part NH, and the 70% mileage was both unexpected and brutal for the price paid! 100% RDM bonus would be awesome, if true.