United deleted my award booking
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I would be curious if others disagree, but I believe that under DOT regulations you have a ticket. You got a confirmation # and points were deducted.
DOT views clicking "submit" on the reservation as completing the purchase, with a confirmation number being the proof.
I think you need to call United, and escalate. They will see that (a) they pulled miles (payment) and (b) issued a confirmation #, and ought to reinstate it. Otherwise, any effort to collect more miles is a prohibited post-sale price increase.
DOT views clicking "submit" on the reservation as completing the purchase, with a confirmation number being the proof.
I think you need to call United, and escalate. They will see that (a) they pulled miles (payment) and (b) issued a confirmation #, and ought to reinstate it. Otherwise, any effort to collect more miles is a prohibited post-sale price increase.
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So 5 days ago I booked a round tip for me and my father to attend the British Open in Scotland. The 120,000 miles were deducted from my account and the booking showed up in my mileage plus app along with my other bookings and I was able to select seats on the flights. Today when I open my app I find the booking is gone, and when I click on the confirmation number. In the email from the original purchase it says it can find no record. When I look to rebook I find that United has eliminated the saver redemptions from my dates and the price in miles is now doubled. Do I have any recourse beyond rebooking at the higher price and honoring that United does not deflate my res again? Hotels are expensive and without refund policies during these dates.
Other good options are really for the OP to look at availability to many of the UA european flights such as FRA, DUB, AMS, etc. There are oftentimes extremely inexpensive flights from these to EDI or GLA(a very pleasant 1hr train ride to the Edinburgh city center). As others have mentioned looking at surrounding dates if you have a bit of flexibility is a good idea. Also don't always trust the UA search tool. If you are flying out of a non-hub city search first for flights from UA hubs then search for legs from your location. As a last resort you can possibly buy/book a separate PNR (reservation) for the flight to IAD/EWR/ORD/IAH, while that is obviously less than ideal it could be a last resort to salvage the trip.
I would be curious if others disagree, but I believe that under DOT regulations you have a ticket. You got a confirmation # and points were deducted.
DOT views clicking "submit" on the reservation as completing the purchase, with a confirmation number being the proof.
I think you need to call United, and escalate. They will see that (a) they pulled miles (payment) and (b) issued a confirmation #, and ought to reinstate it. Otherwise, any effort to collect more miles is a prohibited post-sale price increase.
DOT views clicking "submit" on the reservation as completing the purchase, with a confirmation number being the proof.
I think you need to call United, and escalate. They will see that (a) they pulled miles (payment) and (b) issued a confirmation #, and ought to reinstate it. Otherwise, any effort to collect more miles is a prohibited post-sale price increase.
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Regardless, the better approach here would seem to be calling UA and asking them to reinstate the award. Supervisor intervention, and some measure of persistence may be required.
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I realize you're frustrated, but that's not what happened; there was simply a systems glitch that caused the ticket not to be issued. As others have pointed out, saver award space will almost certainly return at some point before your trip, but you shouldn't have to search for it. Just be unfailingly courteous when you call. Don't make any unfounded accusations. Frankly their systems aren't smart enough to "price gouge" in the manner you suggested.
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baffled that the OP wrote here and seems to have an oh well, I guess I'm screwed attitude when many on here have said to call United and get it sorted out. You booked it. No question about that if you have a PNR. There is speculation that united didn't have or use correct CC info at time of booking, but every transaction I have ever done with an airline checks all this at time of purchase. Gives an oops your payment is incorrect or has been declined immediately.
United may be busier than usual with hurricane displacements but that is just part of their worldwide market. Nobody is in harm's way now. If anything increased calls just helps foreign call center employees make a bit more money.
United may be busier than usual with hurricane displacements but that is just part of their worldwide market. Nobody is in harm's way now. If anything increased calls just helps foreign call center employees make a bit more money.
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A PNR represents a reservation; nothing more. Despite being called a "confirmation number" in common parlance, the only thing confirmed is that a reservation was created. If that reservation isn't ticketed within the timeframe specified in the ticketing rules, it is cancelled.
I'm not suggesting anything besides "something got screwed up inside UA." The takeaway here is that you should always verify that you have a ticket, and call UA within 24 hours of making your reservation if you do not. This is non-obvious to the vast majority of people, and I'm not trying to place blame on the OP. But, for the benefit of anyone reading this account for a lesson to learn -- that's the lesson. Make sure you have a ticket number -- tickets issued by UA will start with 016 -- and, if there are any partner flights on your reservation, make sure that their systems show the same ticket number as UA.
I'm not suggesting anything besides "something got screwed up inside UA." The takeaway here is that you should always verify that you have a ticket, and call UA within 24 hours of making your reservation if you do not. This is non-obvious to the vast majority of people, and I'm not trying to place blame on the OP. But, for the benefit of anyone reading this account for a lesson to learn -- that's the lesson. Make sure you have a ticket number -- tickets issued by UA will start with 016 -- and, if there are any partner flights on your reservation, make sure that their systems show the same ticket number as UA.
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This is the right course of action. UA failed to issue the ticket, but they can open saver award space on their own flights, and in this case they should.
I realize you're frustrated, but that's not what happened; there was simply a systems glitch that caused the ticket not to be issued. ....
I realize you're frustrated, but that's not what happened; there was simply a systems glitch that caused the ticket not to be issued. ....
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United really should look at the way they communicate to the customer in the ticket purchasing flow. We see this time and again on FT, when someone sees a message from United that their reservation is confirmed, and interprets it to mean that it is final. It is confusing to the average consumer.
Some simple changes to wording would go a long way to avoiding major frustration and disappointment, especially when the reservation involves partner flights.
I am a bit amazed that this hasn't hit a Pareto / VOC report and been addressed already.
Some simple changes to wording would go a long way to avoiding major frustration and disappointment, especially when the reservation involves partner flights.
I am a bit amazed that this hasn't hit a Pareto / VOC report and been addressed already.
#25
So 5 days ago I booked a round tip for me and my father to attend the British Open in Scotland. The 120,000 miles were deducted from my account and the booking showed up in my mileage plus app along with my other bookings and I was able to select seats on the flights. Today when I open my app I find the booking is gone, and when I click on the confirmation number. In the email from the original purchase it says it can find no record. When I look to rebook I find that United has eliminated the saver redemptions from my dates and the price in miles is now doubled. Do I have any recourse beyond rebooking at the higher price and honoring that United does not deflate my res again? Hotels are expensive and without refund policies during these dates.
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It could have been phantom partner availability which means OP didn't have a confirmed booking, let alone tickets, to begin with. When you receive a UA PNR, you have confirmed seats on UA metal flights. That's all it means, no more, no less. You need to wait for second email with ticket numbers begin with 016 to confirm partner seats.
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This issue with non-UA metal booking has been around for years.
It could have been phantom partner availability which means OP didn't have a confirmed booking, let alone tickets, to begin with. When you receive a UA PNR, you have confirmed seats on UA metal flights. That's all it means, no more, no less. You need to wait for second email with ticket numbers begin with 016 to confirm partner seats.
It could have been phantom partner availability which means OP didn't have a confirmed booking, let alone tickets, to begin with. When you receive a UA PNR, you have confirmed seats on UA metal flights. That's all it means, no more, no less. You need to wait for second email with ticket numbers begin with 016 to confirm partner seats.
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...A UA PNR does not mean that anything is confirmed on the UA side. You can create a PNR and hold it (farelock, pay-at-airport); some fares allow you 72 hours (or longer, although those are being scaled back) to do the actual ticketing. A PNR represents a reservation; until it's ticketed, nothing is guaranteed.
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Because of the aggressiveness of the European low cost carriers, you really can often find quite cheap cash fares for intra-Europe air travel. Provided it's the transatlantic stuff that's sold out of inventory. If it's a case of that first domestic United Express leg causing everything to reprice, try alternate departure airports or splitting the ticket so the first leg is a cash purchase.
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Because of the aggressiveness of the European low cost carriers, you really can often find quite cheap cash fares for intra-Europe air travel. Provided it's
not
the transatlantic stuff that's sold out of inventory. If it's a case of that first domestic United Express leg causing everything to reprice, try alternate departure airports or splitting the ticket so the first leg is a cash purchase.
not
the transatlantic stuff that's sold out of inventory. If it's a case of that first domestic United Express leg causing everything to reprice, try alternate departure airports or splitting the ticket so the first leg is a cash purchase.
I would personally find doing a triple PNR (Origin-TATL departure point, TATL leg, EU arrival-EDI) a bit much and leaves a lot of exposure for delays/cancellations. I do at times use 2 PNR for 1 trip with a sufficient cushion.