Was I just not paying attention? LAX - Europe
#16
Join Date: Nov 2013
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I hate returning thru IAH, since there's no PreCheck. I have to roll the dice and walk outside to get thru the TSA checkpoint faster (hopefully).
BTW, I think this may be another one:
AMS-WAW-LAX on LO
Having never flown this route, can't say if it's any good.
BTW, I think this may be another one:
AMS-WAW-LAX on LO
Having never flown this route, can't say if it's any good.
#17
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: NYC (Primarily EWR)
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Can't opine on LO, but you are flying the wrong direction quite a bit on that route...
#19
Join Date: Mar 2017
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Groetjes! Now that you are broadening your horizon by living in Amsterdam, please take off your colored glasses and stop flying a crappy airline like United. Many better options out there...seek and ye shall find.
#21
Join Date: Oct 2009
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I have family who live in Orange County, and SNA is so much more convenient compared to LAX, especially with LA traffic. I see AMS-IAH-SNA and SNA-ORD-IAH most days with reasonable connection times on UA.
UA has a "larger European presence" because of the JV. LH and LX have service from LAX to MUC, FRA, and ZRH.
UA has a "larger European presence" because of the JV. LH and LX have service from LAX to MUC, FRA, and ZRH.
#22
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It's time for the original poster to rethink airline loyalty. Consider flying KLM non-stop AMS-LAX. I used to be a slave to airline loyalty but not anymore. Now I only have slight loyalty.
If the original poster wants to fly to SNA and not fly a US domestic flight, see if the schedule is ok for KLM AMS-YVR (Vancouver) and Westjet YVR-SNA. US Customs at YVR is very quick and easy. Westjet and KLM can earn Delta SkyPesos.
The above poster's AMS-IAH-SNA routing may be good because the US portion is not too long so it's not too demoralizing.
If the original poster wants to fly to SNA and not fly a US domestic flight, see if the schedule is ok for KLM AMS-YVR (Vancouver) and Westjet YVR-SNA. US Customs at YVR is very quick and easy. Westjet and KLM can earn Delta SkyPesos.
The above poster's AMS-IAH-SNA routing may be good because the US portion is not too long so it's not too demoralizing.
#23
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: PWM
Programs: AA Plat
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Looks like United bought the London route from Pan Am in 1990. http://articles.latimes.com/1990-10-...nited-airlines
Don't remember United ever flying from LAX to other European cities; SFO is their "real" West Coast hub and currently has service to LHR, CDG and FRA.
Don't remember United ever flying from LAX to other European cities; SFO is their "real" West Coast hub and currently has service to LHR, CDG and FRA.
Link to blog source
#24
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: SAN
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Posts: 3,213
UA tried upping LAX-LHR to 2x daily earlier this year but it didn't work out.
Link to blog source
Link to blog source
Want the morning flight out of LHR so will no longer fly LHR-LAX. Morning flight ensures quicker revovery from jetlag (I personally have found no difference flying the 787 vs any other aircraft in the fleet).
Will fly LAX-LHR as it is the red eye and enough time to sleep to help with the jetlag.
Stupid move by UA to move the flight to the afternoon as not late enough to have a full work day in London before leaving (which is why I may have considered catching an evening flight LHR-LAX.) UA flight leaves at 2pm. NZ flight leaves at 4pm so if I want a flight LHR-LAX I catch the NZ flight as I get two extra hours of work in.
UA have a self fulfilling prophesy that there are not enough people to have two LHR-LAX flights.
#25
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UA tried upping LAX-LHR to 2x daily earlier this year but it didn't work out.
Link to blog source
Link to blog source
I tried flying the morning flight earlier this year and got moved to the afternoon flight (LHR-LAX).
Want the morning flight out of LHR so will no longer fly LHR-LAX. Morning flight ensures quicker recovery from jetlag (I personally have found no difference flying the 787 vs any other aircraft in the fleet).
Will fly LAX-LHR as it is the red eye and enough time to sleep to help with the jetlag.
Stupid move by UA to move the flight to the afternoon as not late enough to have a full work day in London before leaving (which is why I may have considered catching an evening flight LHR-LAX.) UA flight leaves at 2pm. NZ flight leaves at 4pm so if I want a flight LHR-LAX I catch the NZ flight as I get two extra hours of work in.
UA have a self fulfilling prophesy that there are not enough people to have two LHR-LAX flights.
Want the morning flight out of LHR so will no longer fly LHR-LAX. Morning flight ensures quicker recovery from jetlag (I personally have found no difference flying the 787 vs any other aircraft in the fleet).
Will fly LAX-LHR as it is the red eye and enough time to sleep to help with the jetlag.
Stupid move by UA to move the flight to the afternoon as not late enough to have a full work day in London before leaving (which is why I may have considered catching an evening flight LHR-LAX.) UA flight leaves at 2pm. NZ flight leaves at 4pm so if I want a flight LHR-LAX I catch the NZ flight as I get two extra hours of work in.
UA have a self fulfilling prophesy that there are not enough people to have two LHR-LAX flights.
David
#26
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I tried flying the morning flight earlier this year and got moved to the afternoon flight (LHR-LAX).
Want the morning flight out of LHR so will no longer fly LHR-LAX. Morning flight ensures quicker revovery from jetlag (I personally have found no difference flying the 787 vs any other aircraft in the fleet).
Will fly LAX-LHR as it is the red eye and enough time to sleep to help with the jetlag.
Stupid move by UA to move the flight to the afternoon as not late enough to have a full work day in London before leaving (which is why I may have considered catching an evening flight LHR-LAX.) UA flight leaves at 2pm. NZ flight leaves at 4pm so if I want a flight LHR-LAX I catch the NZ flight as I get two extra hours of work in.
UA have a self fulfilling prophesy that there are not enough people to have two LHR-LAX flights.
Want the morning flight out of LHR so will no longer fly LHR-LAX. Morning flight ensures quicker revovery from jetlag (I personally have found no difference flying the 787 vs any other aircraft in the fleet).
Will fly LAX-LHR as it is the red eye and enough time to sleep to help with the jetlag.
Stupid move by UA to move the flight to the afternoon as not late enough to have a full work day in London before leaving (which is why I may have considered catching an evening flight LHR-LAX.) UA flight leaves at 2pm. NZ flight leaves at 4pm so if I want a flight LHR-LAX I catch the NZ flight as I get two extra hours of work in.
UA have a self fulfilling prophesy that there are not enough people to have two LHR-LAX flights.
#27
Join Date: Apr 2000
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UA tried upping LAX-LHR to 2x daily earlier this year but it didn't work out.
Link to blog source
Link to blog source
I agree with other posters that the timing of the UA flights can be annoying. Historically LAX-LHR departure has varied between 2pm (ugh!) and after 5pm (much better). The same sort of annoyance happens coming the other way, too.... I'd take NZ every time if I could!
If OP is desperate to fly on *A from AMS to LHR, he can do it on LH via FRA or MUC, on LX via ZRH, or on OS via VIE. Takes 3.5-5+hrs depending on routing, but think of the extra miles!
#28
Join Date: Sep 2008
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It's time for the original poster to rethink airline loyalty. Consider flying KLM non-stop AMS-LAX. I used to be a slave to airline loyalty but not anymore. Now I only have slight loyalty.
If the original poster wants to fly to SNA and not fly a US domestic flight, see if the schedule is ok for KLM AMS-YVR (Vancouver) and Westjet YVR-SNA. US Customs at YVR is very quick and easy. Westjet and KLM can earn Delta SkyPesos.
The above poster's AMS-IAH-SNA routing may be good because the US portion is not too long so it's not too demoralizing.
If the original poster wants to fly to SNA and not fly a US domestic flight, see if the schedule is ok for KLM AMS-YVR (Vancouver) and Westjet YVR-SNA. US Customs at YVR is very quick and easy. Westjet and KLM can earn Delta SkyPesos.
The above poster's AMS-IAH-SNA routing may be good because the US portion is not too long so it's not too demoralizing.
#30
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: SAN
Programs: 1K (since 2008), *G (since 1990), 1MM
Posts: 3,213
I think the problem for the OP is that he needs UA metal to achieve GS (to get back to the original post).
So he is going to need to catch *A from AMS to the location that will then get him the maximum PQM and more importantly the maximum PQD he needs on UA metal.
Not that I have ever been GS, but am guessing losing that would be a huge difference in level of service.
So he is going to need to catch *A from AMS to the location that will then get him the maximum PQM and more importantly the maximum PQD he needs on UA metal.
Not that I have ever been GS, but am guessing losing that would be a huge difference in level of service.