70+ minute baggage claim waits at YYC, no irrop
#16
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bag is damaged. it's one of those 4 wheeled samsonite hardshell. the bottom of the aluminum covering of the retractable handle part is snapped off. baggage agent in yyc said "we don't cover handles" and refused to initiate a claim. apart from the fact it's not a handle that's broken, let alone a protruding part, i don't see anywhere in the conditions of carriage that handles are not covered, which is moot anyways. golly ua is getting annoying.
just got an email of apology and $150 etc for the baggage throw-in delay. i asked for 0, expected maybe $20. so very impressed and tbh i look forward to encountering more of these issues.
but also they gave me a $175 etc for a four (4) day baggage delay, during christmas (before the new-new united), as a platinum on an overseas flight, at a domestic station with 20+ daily ua flights......so, yeah..
now if only they'll spend $20 to fix my bag.
good point.
just got an email of apology and $150 etc for the baggage throw-in delay. i asked for 0, expected maybe $20. so very impressed and tbh i look forward to encountering more of these issues.
but also they gave me a $175 etc for a four (4) day baggage delay, during christmas (before the new-new united), as a platinum on an overseas flight, at a domestic station with 20+ daily ua flights......so, yeah..
now if only they'll spend $20 to fix my bag.
good point.
Last edited by WineCountryUA; Aug 15, 2017 at 10:02 pm Reason: merging consecutive posts by same member; please use multi-quote; language
#18
Join Date: Oct 2011
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Ever since they outsourced YYC it's pretty much SOP to wait for marshalling, jet bridge, bags forever. Then add the winter favorite of delivering green tag bags to baggage claim instead of the jet bridge.
#19
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well be sure to complain on the website and ye shall get etc. i understand irrops and that things don't always work the way we want. but this is due to consistent short staffing.
#20
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Same as catering the morning flight out of YYC not to standard, or having permanently new staff that can't drive a jet bridge.
#21
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just got an email of apology and $150 etc for the baggage throw-in delay. i asked for 0, expected maybe $20. so very impressed and tbh i look forward to encountering more of these issues.
but also they gave me a $175 etc for a four (4) day baggage delay, during christmas (before the new-new united), as a platinum on an overseas flight, at a domestic station with 20+ daily ua flights......so, yeah..
now if only they'll spend $20 to fix my bag.
good point.
but also they gave me a $175 etc for a four (4) day baggage delay, during christmas (before the new-new united), as a platinum on an overseas flight, at a domestic station with 20+ daily ua flights......so, yeah..
now if only they'll spend $20 to fix my bag.
good point.
Your posts are almost unreadable. Capitalization and full sentences are your friend.
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#22
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OGG is horrible, so much so that I head for the rental car while my wife waits for the luggage.
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#24
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the etc was above and beyond what i expected (i expected $0)
so if 70+min waits at carousel on a clear summer night is the norm
and i get etc at the value of the flight for this inconvenience
who would not look forward to more of these incidents?
Last edited by WineCountryUA; Aug 15, 2017 at 9:59 pm Reason: Discuss the issues, not the poster(s)
#25
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last iah-yyc of the day arriving at 9:45pm. ever since ua closed this base around 2012 and outsourced it, service levels and staffing have just plummeted. this time, 10 minute ground hold for a crew, then after we park and deplane, i notice no ramp crew, no gse, nothing near the aircraft. it's a clear night, no irrops, our flight held short of the gate 2 minutes before scheduled arrival. so i know.....
50 minutes from arrival time: a few connection and non priority bags trickle up. no priority bags.
+60: i go to the bag agent, agent says "they're coming they're coming!". i said i gotta go, i have a meeting right away and i cannot keep my client waiting any longer. he says "ok but you have to pick them up". i tell him that's not a possibility nor is that acceptable and he refuses to open a claim. he tells me to calm down, the bags are coming right now
+70: no bags. i walk, again he refuses to open a claim.
i call the united premier baggage desk, they say they will not deliver "because the bag travelled with you"
i just want my bags delivered, i do not have another hour while here to go get my bags. i would surmise bags were not delivered until 80+ mins. i am not making this up nor embellishing, their ground handler in yyc is this bad.
i am a ua gold. am i being unreasonable.
50 minutes from arrival time: a few connection and non priority bags trickle up. no priority bags.
+60: i go to the bag agent, agent says "they're coming they're coming!". i said i gotta go, i have a meeting right away and i cannot keep my client waiting any longer. he says "ok but you have to pick them up". i tell him that's not a possibility nor is that acceptable and he refuses to open a claim. he tells me to calm down, the bags are coming right now
+70: no bags. i walk, again he refuses to open a claim.
i call the united premier baggage desk, they say they will not deliver "because the bag travelled with you"
i just want my bags delivered, i do not have another hour while here to go get my bags. i would surmise bags were not delivered until 80+ mins. i am not making this up nor embellishing, their ground handler in yyc is this bad.
i am a ua gold. am i being unreasonable.
On a recent UA flight, the Captain referred to this being "Canadian time" as the ground crew were MIA. I'd encourage you to write in about the poor services at YYC when you travel through, as it is really pathetic to have such poor ground services at a brand new terminal.
The airport authority also needs to get their act together in working better with their partners, so feel free to send your thoughts their way via a Facebook or Google review too.
I'm also amazed at how long it takes them to line up the jet bridge - the new terminal has been open for 8 months now, and the staff still don't seem to know how to work a jet bridge.
I've wrote in before about the poor experiences before. Maybe they'll listen to a GS if you keep writing in? I don't have a lot of faith in the surveys, but I think they at least read the comments when you write in specifically to 1KVoice/Global Services desk.
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last iah-yyc of the day arriving at 9:45pm.
+60: i go to the bag agent, agent says "they're coming they're coming!". i said i gotta go, i have a meeting right away and i cannot keep my client waiting any longer. he says "ok but you have to pick them up". i tell him that's not a possibility nor is that acceptable and he refuses to open a claim. he tells me to calm down, the bags are coming right now
am i being unreasonable.
+60: i go to the bag agent, agent says "they're coming they're coming!". i said i gotta go, i have a meeting right away and i cannot keep my client waiting any longer. he says "ok but you have to pick them up". i tell him that's not a possibility nor is that acceptable and he refuses to open a claim. he tells me to calm down, the bags are coming right now
am i being unreasonable.
If you are flying international and cutting it close you are asking for trouble given they myriad of issues that can pop up. And a client meeting 'round about midnight? No wonder you were so anxious to get moving...
SL
#27
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I wrote to GS a few times about the meals. As well when App lists dinner but a snack is served. (I am sure it will happen tomorrow again) but only got BS answers.
#28
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Being YYC based, I feel your pain here. UA's ground services at YYC are abysmal. Baggage delivery times seem to have degraded significantly since the new terminal opened. UA seems to be among the worst of the bunch, especially with the late evening flights when IAH, DEN, ORD, and sometimes SFO arrive within an hour. 60-70 minutes is definitely long for a narrowbody, but at YYC 30-50 mins is generally the norm. Most similar sized airports can deliver bags from a narrowbody in under 20 minutes, even for international flights.
On a recent UA flight, the Captain referred to this being "Canadian time" as the ground crew were MIA. I'd encourage you to write in about the poor services at YYC when you travel through, as it is really pathetic to have such poor ground services at a brand new terminal.
The airport authority also needs to get their act together in working better with their partners, so feel free to send your thoughts their way via a Facebook or Google review too. .
On a recent UA flight, the Captain referred to this being "Canadian time" as the ground crew were MIA. I'd encourage you to write in about the poor services at YYC when you travel through, as it is really pathetic to have such poor ground services at a brand new terminal.
The airport authority also needs to get their act together in working better with their partners, so feel free to send your thoughts their way via a Facebook or Google review too. .
Yes, yes, yes, all of these things!!! YYC ground services are terrible. They manage to cater a passable breakfast for YYC-IAH and YYC-ORD, but for some reason, can't seem to cater breakfast for a ~3 hour block time flight to DEN.
I'm also amazed at how long it takes them to line up the jet bridge - the new terminal has been open for 8 months now, and the staff still don't seem to know how to work a jet bridge.
I've wrote in before about the poor experiences before. Maybe they'll listen to a GS if you keep writing in? I don't have a lot of faith in the surveys, but I think they at least read the comments when you write in specifically to 1KVoice/Global Services desk
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