To the non-rev in row 4.....
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Just in time for this thread - alleged dependent of Delta employee runs amuck in int'l first class. Makes UA incident seem mild:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/plane-ret...045616606.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/plane-ret...045616606.html
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Just in time for this thread - alleged dependent of Delta employee runs amuck in int'l first class. Makes UA incident seem mild:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/plane-ret...045616606.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/plane-ret...045616606.html
Not that this helps at all in this situation. Ugh.
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Please do. Even on other airlines this makes us look like fools. They're is a set of decorum that nonrev passengers should try to stay in line with. Whether or not they're actually travelling as a conf. or NRSA and as an employee it is their job to properly represent the airline regardless of the circumstance. This being no acception. No one is above the law, especially us.
Also, you can easily tell, look at the name on the BP and then up at the screens overhead or by seeing in all caps NRSA at the tops of our BPs (it'll be clearly visible even on our seat assignments). This still doesn't matter though anyways as this person's behaviour was far from acceptable.
Also, you can easily tell, look at the name on the BP and then up at the screens overhead or by seeing in all caps NRSA at the tops of our BPs (it'll be clearly visible even on our seat assignments). This still doesn't matter though anyways as this person's behaviour was far from acceptable.
OT, but the DL rule about no buddies in FC/J without the sponsoring employee being present would not apply to nonrevs traveling on dependent passes, only to official buddy pass riders? One would think that someone who grew up in an airline family would understand the rules and their importance, although maybe there isn't an explicit nonrev policy prohibiting drug use within X hours of flying. Sad.
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As a once-a-month non-rev, I'd say that it's inappropriate for a non-rev to even be identifiable as a non-rev, other than if they're in uniform. But behavior like that is inappropriate.
I don't have bag tags, don't show my ID badge, and don't even take food or drinks when offered. In short, I'm the only person that will ever know I'm a non-rev other than the occasional crew member that knows me (unavoidable after 30+ years as a pilot for UA).
FAB
I don't have bag tags, don't show my ID badge, and don't even take food or drinks when offered. In short, I'm the only person that will ever know I'm a non-rev other than the occasional crew member that knows me (unavoidable after 30+ years as a pilot for UA).
FAB
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Wow! the Delta guy was a bona fide DYKWIA:
According to one flight attendant, "Hudek did not seem impacted by the breaking of a full liter red wine bottle over his head, and instead shouted, 'Do you know who I am?'
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Just in time for this thread - alleged dependent of Delta employee runs amuck in int'l first class. Makes UA incident seem mild:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/plane-ret...045616606.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/plane-ret...045616606.html
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Write but be specific
If your going to do this, do it properly. Be specific in the complaint what he did wrong, where he sat and what he looked like. Otherwise they can't' do much can they?
MBJ-EWR. I believe your employer has guidelines on how to act and general behavior for "free" employee travel.
Not sure where another thread may be that this would fit, but looking for some guidance.
MBJ-EWR was nonrev express today. Family of four led by father (2 preteen kids, wife) barrels through (not around) my family to get to zone 1 boarding. Hmmm. Ok.
Then the agent starts a gentle discussion on his 1-3 pieces per person carrying and 2-WAY oversized garment bag. She asked him (kindly) to put it in the sizer. His response is "I'm just too (word for a structure to hold a river back) tired to think of this. You didn't have room on the earlier flight, and my bag is going with me. I work for United and can take it if I want!!!"
When I got to the agent I apologized for one of my country's citizens actions. She apologized to me for her co-workers actions!!!!
So...thinking of writing 1K. Do they ever tell the employee "chill out"? Or am I wasting my time and they don't care?
Not sure where another thread may be that this would fit, but looking for some guidance.
MBJ-EWR was nonrev express today. Family of four led by father (2 preteen kids, wife) barrels through (not around) my family to get to zone 1 boarding. Hmmm. Ok.
Then the agent starts a gentle discussion on his 1-3 pieces per person carrying and 2-WAY oversized garment bag. She asked him (kindly) to put it in the sizer. His response is "I'm just too (word for a structure to hold a river back) tired to think of this. You didn't have room on the earlier flight, and my bag is going with me. I work for United and can take it if I want!!!"
When I got to the agent I apologized for one of my country's citizens actions. She apologized to me for her co-workers actions!!!!
So...thinking of writing 1K. Do they ever tell the employee "chill out"? Or am I wasting my time and they don't care?
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I assume you don't work for United. United did have that rule a few years ago (employees must travel with buddies internationally) but relaxed it by requiring a sort of extreme vetting ahead of time, nothing that allows for adding a "buddy" at the last minute.
Not that my friends or relatives are rowdy but this is the exact reason I DO NOT SHARE ANY BUDDY PASSES. Frankly, I wish UAL would go back to it's original non-rev rules - Immediate family (spouse, children up to age 21, parents, retirees). Period.
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I assume you don't work for United. United did have that rule a few years ago (employees must travel with buddies internationally) but relaxed it by requiring a sort of extreme vetting ahead of time, nothing that allows for adding a "buddy" at the last minute.
Not that my friends or relatives are rowdy but this is the exact reason I DO NOT SHARE ANY BUDDY PASSES. Frankly, I wish UAL would go back to it's original non-rev rules - Immediate family (spouse, children up to age 21, parents). Period.
I assume you don't work for United. United did have that rule a few years ago (employees must travel with buddies internationally) but relaxed it by requiring a sort of extreme vetting ahead of time, nothing that allows for adding a "buddy" at the last minute.
Not that my friends or relatives are rowdy but this is the exact reason I DO NOT SHARE ANY BUDDY PASSES. Frankly, I wish UAL would go back to it's original non-rev rules - Immediate family (spouse, children up to age 21, parents). Period.
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Report it. Inexcusable.
You're one of the good ones. You know, with common sense. We have a lot of newer employees hired in the past couple years. Granted we don't know if they were junior, but that doesn't matter. I try my best to avoid being identified as an employee at all times while nonrevin.
As a once-a-month non-rev, I'd say that it's inappropriate for a non-rev to even be identifiable as a non-rev, other than if they're in uniform. But behavior like that is inappropriate.
I don't have bag tags, don't show my ID badge, and don't even take food or drinks when offered. In short, I'm the only person that will ever know I'm a non-rev other than the occasional crew member that knows me (unavoidable after 30+ years as a pilot for UA).
FAB
I don't have bag tags, don't show my ID badge, and don't even take food or drinks when offered. In short, I'm the only person that will ever know I'm a non-rev other than the occasional crew member that knows me (unavoidable after 30+ years as a pilot for UA).
FAB
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Report it. Inexcusable.
You're one of the good ones. You know, with common sense. We have a lot of newer employees hired in the past couple years. Granted we don't know if they were junior, but that doesn't matter. I try my best to avoid being identified as an employee at all times while nonrevin.
You're one of the good ones. You know, with common sense. We have a lot of newer employees hired in the past couple years. Granted we don't know if they were junior, but that doesn't matter. I try my best to avoid being identified as an employee at all times while nonrevin.
Totally agree. I find people are less interested now in seat mate conversation but years ago, if asked what my occupation was, I would tell them I was an auditor for the IRS = immediate change of subject ! I'm long past the "new hire/younger, excited employee" stage. Many years ago when I was a new hire, I was a little too enthusiastic about it on a flight and was called out by another employee who heard me - I was soooooo embarrassed and never "bragged" again. I had a friend who was also "creative" but she would just say she was an attorney. Unfortunately this didn't work when she sat next to another lawyer one day and had to find a clever way to get out of it along the lines of "never talking business while on vacation".
I can always tell who non-revs are (besides the obvious hanging at the gate until the last minute). Unfortunately, it's usually a loud, obnoxious behavior coupled with "borderline" dress code - excluding, of course, the more senior people who know better. NOBODY is traveling on my passes if I have even a thought that they will act up or are unable to even fake some sort of quiet and modest demeanor.
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