dshafiee

Just saw 5 Be passengers bumped to F this morning. Crazy!

SFO 1K

This needs a lot more context.
Route, Flight number, oversell, etc?

dshafiee

DFW/LAX 5:50am departure. Oversold.

Miles Ahead

But the seat map shows two empty seats in coach.

Exleftseat

Don't let my question make any inroads in this thread. Being curious, could you please tell me how to pull up a seat map after a flight departed.

SFO 1K

You can view the seat map on a flight after departure via the app, on the day of travel. The maps tend to disappear the following day.

findark

Could have been no-shows after they already processed the op-ups. If there's no standby list this seems like the fastest way to get the plane out.

emcampbe

and whether there was anyone on the upgrade standby list - I sincerely hope not.

As I've stated upthread, quite disappointed that UA seems to 'reward' BE with better seats, be it E+ or especially F, when they specifically talk about it's a fare where you don't get many things, including the ability to buy into a seat assignment at all, much less, a better one. If UA is going to market these as no-frills fares, and they do, then they really need to stop doing what's easiest/fastest, and have a proper procedure to offer the better seats to the higher fares or those with higher * status on regular fares and then fill those seats in the back with BE fares. Otherwise, people, understandably, won't understand the benefit of paying the regular fare, and will only enrage pax who did pay the regular fare as they watch he BE folks get premium seats. Because if those pax continue to fly UA, they are going to seriously wonder about he benefits of a higher fare and just book BE the next time.

Kevin AA

Maybe the entire plane bought a BE ticket.

LOL, I doubt that. Departing two minutes earlier is more important than giving upgrades to people who deserve it.

findark

I think it's a bit of a stretch to say anyone "deserves" an op-up, least of all a no-status pax who paid for Y.

Boraxo

Lots of us deserve op-ups. Like my last flight after spending hours during a flight delay. Or after being wedged into an E- middle on the prior flight because your original flight was cancelled (happened when I was 1k). Or maybe a guy who flies 100k a year all paid economy between hubs because his company doesn't allow F. All of these people deserve an op-up more than BE. In fact I would go so far as to say that everyone on the plane who paid a higher fare deserves an op-up before a BE customer. If UA is going to op-up BE then I might as well just buy the lowest fare and toss my elite status into the trash. Or better yet fly an airline that shows a little more respect for elites. (rant finished)

getagb

Interesting BE pricing on Sep. 14, PDX-SFO. Most of the BE options are only $20 cheaper but a few options are $102 cheaper:

spin88

United has already beat you to the punch, you have to pay MORE now to avoid a BE fare if you want to use your elite status.

As an e.g. if one looks two weeks out SEA-SFO, UA wants another $20 to avoid BE (BE fares of $123 or $133) while Delta will just sell you a regular Y at $105 or $145, and VX/AS will sell you seats at $106 or $123.

So United's BE is not cheaper, and it gives you less, unless you pay a loyalty tax to use your "elite status"

jsloan

That appears to have been yet another error; it's been corrected, and those flights are showing up as $92/$112 now.

It really blows my mind how frequently UA has continued to do this, given that the BE fares are created automatically from rules on the regular economy fares.

JohnneeO

Non BE does not always equal higher fare paid.

As an example, UA1816 on 8/21/2017 had Non-BE fares available for $129 on 6/16/2017 & 6/26/2017. On the same flight, BE fares of $137, $172, $140, $147, and $137 again were available on 5/24/2017, 5/25/2017, 5/30/2017, 6/14/2017, and 6/29/2017, respectively. (Current pricing is $114-$134.)

So it is quite likely that across its system UA will have flights with BE passengers who paid more than non-BE passengers.