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Current 77W Routes:
SFO/HKG (UA 862/869) Started 25MAR17
EWR/TLV (UA 90/91) Started 5MAY17
SFO/NRT (UA 837/838) Started 14JUN17
SFO/TPE (UA 871/872) Started 1AUG17
SFO/FRA (UA 58/59) Started 5OCT17
EWR/NRT (UA 79/78) Started 28OCT17
SFO/AKL (UA 916/917) Resumes seasonal service 27OCT18 - 29MAR19 (non-seasonal 3x weekly service operated by 772)
SFO/LHR (UA 901/949) Started 23APR18, ends 26OCT18, resumes 30MAR19
SFO/TLV (UA 954/955) Started 23MAY18
EWR/BOM (UA 48/49) Started 27OCT18
EWR/HKG (UA 179/180) Started 30MAR19

Current Non-77W routes
772 Retrofit:
EWR/BRU (UA 999/998) Started 30MAR19
EWR/CDG (UA 57/56) Started 30MAR19
IAD/BRU (UA 950/951) Started 30MAR19
IAD/CDG (UA 915/914) Starts 29APR19
IAD/TLV (UA 72/73) Starts 22MAY19, 3x weekly
SFO/PEK (UA 888/889) Started 30MAR19
SFO/FRA (UA 926/927) Started 30MAR19
SFO/CDG (UA 990/984) Starts 29APR19
SFO/ICN (UA 805/806) Started 1APR19, 4x weekly
SFO/AKL (UA 916/917) Started off-season service 30MAR19, 3x weekly

Past routes:
EWR/FRA (UA 960/961) 24MAR18 - 31JUL18 (now operated by 78J)
SFO/EWR (various), currently operated by 752, 78J, 77G
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Old Aug 27, 2016, 9:03 am
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United 77x Future/Changed Routes w/ Polaris Seats

With Uniteds 773ERs beginning delivery in about 3 months, does anyone know what routes these 10 aircraft will deploy on internationally?

Here are the two options I've heard:
Less likely: Be based out of SFO, and replace some 747s on SFO-Asia routes. I think this is less likely as I am pretty sure I've read United purchased the A350-1000s for this.

More likely: Replace some 772ERs out of busy EWR routes. I think this is more likely as those freed up 772ERs will replace the 772As on international routes, and those 772As will be converted to domestic high density config. This will help free up some 737s, 757s to begin replacing A319s/A320s. The A320s will then take over current E175 routes, and those E175s will take over CRJ200 routes, allowing United to finally retire all of its sub 75 passenger planes.

Also, anyone think these 773s will get placed on domestic routes first? I know they did that with 787s, but I think that was just for training pilots? If that was the reason, I don't expect we will see them flying domestic as pilots already flying 772s will have no problem switching to 773s.

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Side note, being a 1k on my 4th year now, I am really glad United is purchasing virtually every type of new aircraft, giving me the chance to experience them all. And I have Lufthansa (Star Alliance) for the 748/A380/A340s :]
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Originally Posted by bulgarianfreak55
With Uniteds 773ERs beginning delivery in about 3 months, does anyone know what routes these 10 aircraft will deploy on internationally?

Here are the two options I've heard:
Less likely: Be based out of SF guyO, and replace some 747s on SFO-Asia routes. I think this is less likely as I am pretty sure I've read United purchased the A350-1000s for this.

More likely: Replace some 772ERs out of busy EWR routes. I think this is more likely as those freed up 772ERs will replace the 772As on international routes, and those 772As will be converted to domestic high density config. This will help free up some 737s, 757s to begin replacing A319s/A320s. The A320s will then take over current E175 routes, and those E175s will take over CRJ200 routes, allowing United to finally retire all of its sub 75 passenger planes.

Also, anyone think these 773s will get placed on domestic routes first? I know they did that with 787s, but I think that was just for training pilots? If that was the reason, I don't expect we will see them flying domestic as pilots already flying 772s will have no problem switching to 773s.

Opinions?

Side note, being a 1k on my 4th year now, I am really glad United is purchasing virtually every type of new aircraft, giving me the chance to experience them all. And I have Lufthansa (Star Alliance) for the 748/A380/A340s :]
3 will be sent to SFO rest to EWR.

Will fly domestic hub to hub routes prior to being put on intl routes

Will fly ULH routes out of EWR & SFO.

Rumored first intl routes I'm hearing are EWR-HKG & SFO-AKL.
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Old Aug 27, 2016, 9:23 am
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Originally Posted by JOSECONLSCREW28
3 will be sent to SFO rest to EWR.

Will fly domestic hub to hub routes prior to being put on intl routes

Will fly ULH routes out of EWR & SFO.

Rumored first intl routes I'm hearing are EWR-HKG & SFO-AKL.
The first one makes sense, but putting one on SFO-AKL for SF? That would be a bit of a surprise...feel like a business-heavy route (SFO-HKG, SFO-NRT) makes more sense.

My hope is that it flies EWR-PVG by mid-year next year
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Old Aug 27, 2016, 9:23 am
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Originally Posted by JOSECONLSCREW28
3 will be sent to SFO rest to EWR.

Will fly domestic hub to hub routes prior to being put on intl routes

Will fly ULH routes out of EWR & SFO.

Rumored first intl routes I'm hearing are EWR-HKG & SFO-AKL.
Any idea when the first routes will be officially announced?
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Old Aug 27, 2016, 9:25 am
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Originally Posted by PsiFighter37
feel like a business-heavy route (SFO-HKG, SFO-NRT) makes more sense.
Other aircraft are better suited for those relatively short routes.
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Old Aug 27, 2016, 9:40 am
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I am flying HKG-EWR in J in mid-December. Fingers crossed but it still seems unlikely given rumored delivery scheduled and then IOE flights, etc.
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We probably won't see the 77W deployed on a ULH route until there are 3-4 ships in the fleet, to reliably support daily service.

Given the delivery schedule, though, that won't take long. January, February 2017 is realistic.
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Old Aug 27, 2016, 9:52 am
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Originally Posted by JOSECONLSCREW28
3 will be sent to SFO rest to EWR.

Will fly domestic hub to hub routes prior to being put on intl routes

Will fly ULH routes out of EWR & SFO.

Rumored first intl routes I'm hearing are EWR-HKG & SFO-AKL.
If EWR getting a bulk of the 773s then I wonder if the DEL and BOM routes will be upgraded. That would be nice.
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Old Aug 27, 2016, 9:57 am
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While it does not make sense to me as TPE is not a heavy business route, they switched to the 789 from the 772 - then they are substituting the 789 with 744s for periods later this year and early next. So, maybe 77W is on the horizon? I agree that routes like HKG and NRT probably should get it first.
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Old Aug 27, 2016, 11:08 am
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Originally Posted by mh3265a
If EWR getting a bulk of the 773s then I wonder if the DEL and BOM routes will be upgraded. That would be nice.
Unless you're in the 10 across seating in the galley slave cabin.
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Old Aug 27, 2016, 11:16 am
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Originally Posted by mahasamatman
Other aircraft are better suited for those relatively short routes.
SFO-HKG is a longer route than SFO-AKL, according to GCM. And with both locations having Polaris lounges, it would seem to make more sense from that perspective as well.
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Old Aug 27, 2016, 12:10 pm
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Originally Posted by JOSECONLSCREW28
3 will be sent to SFO rest to EWR.

Will fly domestic hub to hub routes prior to being put on intl routes

Will fly ULH routes out of EWR & SFO.

Rumored first intl routes I'm hearing are EWR-HKG & SFO-AKL.
What you are saying is pretty much in line with what I heard. But SFO-AKL? I didn't hear this one. Also wouldn't expect this. I would think more SFO-NRT/HND/HKG/PVG/PEK/ICN.
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Old Aug 27, 2016, 12:25 pm
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The first SFO routes to receive the 77W will most likely be NRT and HKG since those airports are getting Polaris lounges (and high premium demand). Sounds about right for a 3 aircraft rotation. PVG will go double daily 787s, so no chance there. I think ICN/PEK will remain 747s until the first A350s come.
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Old Aug 27, 2016, 12:46 pm
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Originally Posted by transportprof
Unless you're in the 10 across seating in the galley slave cabin.
That's the catch-22 with the 77W. If flying J, I want to see them on routes I'm flying. If flying Y, no thank you.
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Old Aug 27, 2016, 1:03 pm
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MD of Planning stated yesterday that the introduction of the 773 in EWR would start 1H17. That was in response to a question, so no true info if it was SFO or EWR first.
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