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Current 77W Routes:
SFO/HKG (UA 862/869) Started 25MAR17
EWR/TLV (UA 90/91) Started 5MAY17
SFO/NRT (UA 837/838) Started 14JUN17
SFO/TPE (UA 871/872) Started 1AUG17
SFO/FRA (UA 58/59) Started 5OCT17
EWR/NRT (UA 79/78) Started 28OCT17
SFO/AKL (UA 916/917) Resumes seasonal service 27OCT18 - 29MAR19 (non-seasonal 3x weekly service operated by 772)
SFO/LHR (UA 901/949) Started 23APR18, ends 26OCT18, resumes 30MAR19
SFO/TLV (UA 954/955) Started 23MAY18
EWR/BOM (UA 48/49) Started 27OCT18
EWR/HKG (UA 179/180) Started 30MAR19
Current Non-77W routes
772 Retrofit:
EWR/BRU (UA 999/998) Started 30MAR19
EWR/CDG (UA 57/56) Started 30MAR19
IAD/BRU (UA 950/951) Started 30MAR19
IAD/CDG (UA 915/914) Starts 29APR19
IAD/TLV (UA 72/73) Starts 22MAY19, 3x weekly
SFO/PEK (UA 888/889) Started 30MAR19
SFO/FRA (UA 926/927) Started 30MAR19
SFO/CDG (UA 990/984) Starts 29APR19
SFO/ICN (UA 805/806) Started 1APR19, 4x weekly
SFO/AKL (UA 916/917) Started off-season service 30MAR19, 3x weekly
Past routes:
EWR/FRA (UA 960/961) 24MAR18 - 31JUL18 (now operated by 78J)
SFO/EWR (various), currently operated by 752, 78J, 77G
SFO/HKG (UA 862/869) Started 25MAR17
EWR/TLV (UA 90/91) Started 5MAY17
SFO/NRT (UA 837/838) Started 14JUN17
SFO/TPE (UA 871/872) Started 1AUG17
SFO/FRA (UA 58/59) Started 5OCT17
EWR/NRT (UA 79/78) Started 28OCT17
SFO/AKL (UA 916/917) Resumes seasonal service 27OCT18 - 29MAR19 (non-seasonal 3x weekly service operated by 772)
SFO/LHR (UA 901/949) Started 23APR18, ends 26OCT18, resumes 30MAR19
SFO/TLV (UA 954/955) Started 23MAY18
EWR/BOM (UA 48/49) Started 27OCT18
EWR/HKG (UA 179/180) Started 30MAR19
Current Non-77W routes
772 Retrofit:
EWR/BRU (UA 999/998) Started 30MAR19
EWR/CDG (UA 57/56) Started 30MAR19
IAD/BRU (UA 950/951) Started 30MAR19
IAD/CDG (UA 915/914) Starts 29APR19
IAD/TLV (UA 72/73) Starts 22MAY19, 3x weekly
SFO/PEK (UA 888/889) Started 30MAR19
SFO/FRA (UA 926/927) Started 30MAR19
SFO/CDG (UA 990/984) Starts 29APR19
SFO/ICN (UA 805/806) Started 1APR19, 4x weekly
SFO/AKL (UA 916/917) Started off-season service 30MAR19, 3x weekly
Past routes:
EWR/FRA (UA 960/961) 24MAR18 - 31JUL18 (now operated by 78J)
SFO/EWR (various), currently operated by 752, 78J, 77G
United 77x Future/Changed Routes w/ Polaris Seats
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Is SFO-TPE really a high-enough value market to justify the new product? Instinct would tell me that FRA, HKG, NRT from at least EWR/SFO (keeping EWR-SFO-EWR going as a hub to hub to keep these planes positioned) would be first up for these planes. I am very surprised to see TLV and TPE first up.
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Well that's a pleasant surprise. I have two trips planned during the time the 77W is scheduled to fly the SFO-TPE route (in Polaris... I've learned from the domestic 777 to avoid 3-4-3 Y) so hopefully the schedule holds!
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Is SFO-TPE really a high-enough value market to justify the new product? Instinct would tell me that FRA, HKG, NRT from at least EWR/SFO (keeping EWR-SFO-EWR going as a hub to hub to keep these planes positioned) would be first up for these planes. I am very surprised to see TLV and TPE first up.
Probably a dozen other factors that go into the order of things.
That it's scheduled to swap back in March seems like market value isn't the first thing at play.
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Shortage of 747 spare parts and maintenance resources at certain airports could be one of the factors to switch to 77W on the SFO-TPE route.
Frequnent 747s services are still seen at PEK, ICN, LHR and FRA and these airports may have enough spare parts and mechanics to work on the 747 if needed.
TPE (and PVG) may not have the adequate 747 support on the ground.
Frequnent 747s services are still seen at PEK, ICN, LHR and FRA and these airports may have enough spare parts and mechanics to work on the 747 if needed.
TPE (and PVG) may not have the adequate 747 support on the ground.
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Shortage of 747 spare parts and maintenance resources at certain airports could be one of the factors to switch to 77W on the SFO-TPE route.
Frequnent 747s services are still seen at PEK, ICN, LHR and FRA and these airports may have enough spare parts and mechanics to work on the 747 if needed.
TPE (and PVG) may not have the adequate 747 support on the ground.
Frequnent 747s services are still seen at PEK, ICN, LHR and FRA and these airports may have enough spare parts and mechanics to work on the 747 if needed.
TPE (and PVG) may not have the adequate 747 support on the ground.
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Can't speak for TPE as I go direct JFK-TPE with BR instead of stopping in SFO but I can tell you EWR- TLV which flies X2 daily once in the afternoon and the other is overnight in both directions the red eye is probably one of the most saturated routes countless times I have been waitlisted for full fare J on this route in addition they have Stiff competition from NYC area with DL 1 X daily and to an extent LY 2-3 X daily as well I guess the load on their afternoon flights are less as such that flight has remained on the 772
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Love that they are expanding 77W service to TPE. I usually fly on BR in Royal Laurel, but really happy to be able to fly on the Polaris config or be able to try it out on this route.
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Both BR and CI have existing 747 operations, especially for the cargo business. I believe CI has a couple dozen left and BR maybe half of that. EGAT also does maintenance for a bunch of other asian carriers, and actually did the conversion of 747s into the "Dreamlifter" in partnership with Boeing.
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+1 this. I am sure the 77W going to TPE has more to do with it's growth as a *A connection point thanks to BR, and less to do with fear the 744's will crap out at any moment.
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Is SFO-TPE really a high-enough value market to justify the new product? Instinct would tell me that FRA, HKG, NRT from at least EWR/SFO (keeping EWR-SFO-EWR going as a hub to hub to keep these planes positioned) would be first up for these planes. I am very surprised to see TLV and TPE first up.
You better hope they won't make it with 787.
Update: From the sticky update it looks like I am correct. I am definitely fond of making SFO-TPE as 773ER, as this would be one of my major routes too.
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