Life after 1K
#61
Join Date: Oct 2008
Programs: UA 1k MM
Posts: 96
And I'll add another datapoint - 13 straight years as 1K, now Gold as a consequence of MM (certainly not my 38k PQMs last year).
What drove me away? - upgrade shenanigans and general decline in benefits. Although there were a number of changes last year (meals / phone service / etc) that suggested to me that UA had won the race to the bottom and was actually trying to head up again, for me it was too late. I'll still fly UA when it's the best option based on cost and flight time, but happy to not feel tied to UA after all this time...
What drove me away? - upgrade shenanigans and general decline in benefits. Although there were a number of changes last year (meals / phone service / etc) that suggested to me that UA had won the race to the bottom and was actually trying to head up again, for me it was too late. I'll still fly UA when it's the best option based on cost and flight time, but happy to not feel tied to UA after all this time...
#62
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Nashville, TN
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Titanium.;UA 1.5MM; UA Lifetime Gold (whoppee); DL Plat
Posts: 2,124
And I'll add another datapoint - 13 straight years as 1K, now Gold as a consequence of MM (certainly not my 38k PQMs last year).
What drove me away? - upgrade shenanigans and general decline in benefits. Although there were a number of changes last year (meals / phone service / etc) that suggested to me that UA had won the race to the bottom and was actually trying to head up again, for me it was too late. I'll still fly UA when it's the best option based on cost and flight time, but happy to not feel tied to UA after all this time...
What drove me away? - upgrade shenanigans and general decline in benefits. Although there were a number of changes last year (meals / phone service / etc) that suggested to me that UA had won the race to the bottom and was actually trying to head up again, for me it was too late. I'll still fly UA when it's the best option based on cost and flight time, but happy to not feel tied to UA after all this time...
#64
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: LA,CA
Programs: UA 1K 2MM+, SPG Plat
Posts: 155
After 10+ years as 1K and 2MM, I have been lifetime platinum now for 3 years. While not flying as much, obviously, I did not have a single upgrade clear during 2015, including trying to use RPU's. I still stick with UA for most of my travels mainly because of E+ at time of booking and no charge for changing award travel. It may be my imagination but I sure sat next to many 1K's this past year in E+ as they had trouble clearing as well.
#65
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Oregon
Programs: AA EXP, AS 75K, UA 1MM Gold, HH Diamond, Hyatt Explorist, IHG Plat, National EE, Hertz PC
Posts: 4,001
The other big thing was that I used to make generous use of booking award flights if I even thought I'd use them, or using award flights last minute all the time. As a gold, the fees made that prohibitive.
Fortunately, I did at least kick past the 75k threshold in 2015. I'm much happier as a Plat with group 1 again and no close-in booking / reward refund fees. The rest - I'm doing just fine without.
#66
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: LAN, FNT, GRR, DTW
Programs: UA Plat
Posts: 346
I dropped down to Platinum after a few years as 1k. I flew the miles but didn't spend the $$$.
For me being 1k was nice - CPUs were rare but I used every single GPU I ever earned. Reading the posts on the other thread, that seems to be something of an oddity! Plat has most of the other benefits as 1k so I think I am happy. For the next year I decided to buy a whole bunch of tickets (Europe-US-Europe) chained together in C after the nice fare $1.2k sale recently. Buying biz seats for the same price as Y means it doesn't matter if I am 1k or not. Better yet, once I had a guaranteed 75k miles for plat next year, I have started giving my business to American as the prices were better. So overall - I am happy to be free (mostly)!
For me being 1k was nice - CPUs were rare but I used every single GPU I ever earned. Reading the posts on the other thread, that seems to be something of an oddity! Plat has most of the other benefits as 1k so I think I am happy. For the next year I decided to buy a whole bunch of tickets (Europe-US-Europe) chained together in C after the nice fare $1.2k sale recently. Buying biz seats for the same price as Y means it doesn't matter if I am 1k or not. Better yet, once I had a guaranteed 75k miles for plat next year, I have started giving my business to American as the prices were better. So overall - I am happy to be free (mostly)!
#67
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: ORD | LGA | 2E
Programs: UA GS 1.6MM UC | AA CK 0.7MM AC | Bonvoy Ambassador | Hyatt Globalist | Hertz PC
Posts: 1,053
Given the way the industry has shifted to a focus on PQD I think the result here is exactly what UA wanted. I no longer really care if I'm going to hit 1K or not and my recently acquired MM status (on my 7th year of being a 1K) really means nothing. So this year, I'm flying a mixture of DL, AA, UA and generally buying the discounted first (P or A) at the time of booking on UA. I'm sure they will love the higher yield per BIS mile on me. Meanwhile, they won't notice that the 3-4 paid business fares I do professionally each year are now not solely booked on them. My overall PQD last year was ~$14K, my guess is this year it will be half that on United.
#68
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Denver, Colorado, USA
Programs: AS MVP 100K, UA PremEx-MM
Posts: 3,335
I am a Denver-based MM who was a 1K for 14 years; I switched to AS last year with a status match to MVP 75K and have not looked back. Service is nice and I was 100% on upgrades (21 for 21) in 2015.
I still fly UA sometimes; to LAS the fares are cheap and a gold can get an upgrade most of the time (I was 3 for 4 last year). F is pretty cheap to places like LAX, and I did get a nice upgrade DEN-LAX on the 789 on its way to MEL.
My Chase card gets me into the United Club, and AS gives me 4 Board Room passes a year so lounges are OK, too.
I still fly UA sometimes; to LAS the fares are cheap and a gold can get an upgrade most of the time (I was 3 for 4 last year). F is pretty cheap to places like LAX, and I did get a nice upgrade DEN-LAX on the 789 on its way to MEL.
My Chase card gets me into the United Club, and AS gives me 4 Board Room passes a year so lounges are OK, too.
#69
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: PHL
Programs: UA Plat, 2MM
Posts: 1,860
You are correct that I am now 2.4 MM flier, but since I do not fly UA anymore due to Smisek, I never even thought of changing my profile. Sad that after almost 2.5 MM flier UA did not even ask why? I have been MP for almost 30+ years. If I had a long time customer disappear I would communicate. But, the lack reflects UA's lack of concern. Jeff really destroyed this airline.
#70
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Texas
Programs: UA 1K, AA Platinum, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 327
Just an observation after reading all the posts:
Most of you who are ok not being 1Ks anymore are MMers. I think that has to do something with you guys being ok since you don't have to keep flying on UA to keep *A G. It's different for those of us who have to keep flying to keep our status. I don't think gold would be an easy landing spot for muti year 1Ks who HAVE to keep flying UA in order to keep status. Jealous! I'm at 600k lifetime so ways to go.
Most of you who are ok not being 1Ks anymore are MMers. I think that has to do something with you guys being ok since you don't have to keep flying on UA to keep *A G. It's different for those of us who have to keep flying to keep our status. I don't think gold would be an easy landing spot for muti year 1Ks who HAVE to keep flying UA in order to keep status. Jealous! I'm at 600k lifetime so ways to go.
#71
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: United Arab Emirates & Arizona, USA
Programs: UA MM/1P, EK Au, QR, TK, Marriott Life Ti, Hilton Dia, IC Dia, Hyatt Glob, Accor Pt, Shangri-La
Posts: 4,525
Just an observation after reading all the posts:
Most of you who are ok not being 1Ks anymore are MMers. I think that has to do something with you guys being ok since you don't have to keep flying on UA to keep *A G. It's different for those of us who have to keep flying to keep our status. I don't think gold would be an easy landing spot for muti year 1Ks who HAVE to keep flying UA in order to keep status. Jealous! I'm at 600k lifetime so ways to go.
Most of you who are ok not being 1Ks anymore are MMers. I think that has to do something with you guys being ok since you don't have to keep flying on UA to keep *A G. It's different for those of us who have to keep flying to keep our status. I don't think gold would be an easy landing spot for muti year 1Ks who HAVE to keep flying UA in order to keep status. Jealous! I'm at 600k lifetime so ways to go.
At least it will continue to be true until they devalue 1MM -- they say "Premier Gold for life," but there is no guarantee that that will always map to Star Alliance Gold. I wouldn't be shocked if they downgrade it.
#72
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Oregon
Programs: AA EXP, AS 75K, UA 1MM Gold, HH Diamond, Hyatt Explorist, IHG Plat, National EE, Hertz PC
Posts: 4,001
Just an observation after reading all the posts:
Most of you who are ok not being 1Ks anymore are MMers. I think that has to do something with you guys being ok since you don't have to keep flying on UA to keep *A G. It's different for those of us who have to keep flying to keep our status. I don't think gold would be an easy landing spot for muti year 1Ks who HAVE to keep flying UA in order to keep status. Jealous! I'm at 600k lifetime so ways to go.
Most of you who are ok not being 1Ks anymore are MMers. I think that has to do something with you guys being ok since you don't have to keep flying on UA to keep *A G. It's different for those of us who have to keep flying to keep our status. I don't think gold would be an easy landing spot for muti year 1Ks who HAVE to keep flying UA in order to keep status. Jealous! I'm at 600k lifetime so ways to go.
#73
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Texas
Programs: UA 1K, AA Platinum, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 327
A once 1K who is a MM can now occasionally fly united for whatever they have to do and be ok not getting the CPU or other perks that premier gold doesn't get because they only fly occasionally.
On the other hand if you are not a MM and you fly a lot it'll be tough being just gold on all those flights and you want to give UA most of your biz to get the gold benefits at least.
You mentioned, I fly for no other reason other than status. Out if my 600k bis miles on UA metal, ZERO has been for a mileage run. My next mileage run will be my first. So that is not my case!
#74
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Oregon
Programs: AA EXP, AS 75K, UA 1MM Gold, HH Diamond, Hyatt Explorist, IHG Plat, National EE, Hertz PC
Posts: 4,001
You said it yourself. You didn't get my point!
A once 1K who is a MM can now occasionally fly united for whatever they have to do and be ok not getting the CPU or other perks that premier gold doesn't get because they only fly occasionally.
On the other hand if you are not a MM and you fly a lot it'll be tough being just gold on all those flights and you want to give UA most of your biz to get the gold benefits at least.
You mentioned, I fly for no other reason other than status. Out if my 600k bis miles on UA metal, ZERO has been for a mileage run. My next mileage run will be my first. So that is not my case!
A once 1K who is a MM can now occasionally fly united for whatever they have to do and be ok not getting the CPU or other perks that premier gold doesn't get because they only fly occasionally.
On the other hand if you are not a MM and you fly a lot it'll be tough being just gold on all those flights and you want to give UA most of your biz to get the gold benefits at least.
You mentioned, I fly for no other reason other than status. Out if my 600k bis miles on UA metal, ZERO has been for a mileage run. My next mileage run will be my first. So that is not my case!
#75
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Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: Ewa Beach, Hawaii
Posts: 10,909
I believe what they are trying to say is they don't even need to fly 50K to get the Gold benefits and if don't have MM have to fly 50K (and spend $6K) to get the Gold benefits. So is much easier for the MM than the non-MM.