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Email from United sent to United MP Club Cardmembers 18 Aug 2015
Signs were first noticed starting 13 Aug 2015 at various clubs
Posting by UA Insider 17 Aug 2015
For general questions on UC access, see Consolidated "United Club Access Questions" Thread
Update about United Club access
Dear XXXXX,
We've been working on a variety of improvements to our United ClubSM program. To provide a more productive and relaxing experience, we're investing more than $100 million in renovating existing locations and building new spaces with expanded seating areas, more power outlets and upgraded Wi-Fi. We're also investing in a brand new complimentary food menu that you can now find at our hub locations across the U.S. and will be available soon at the rest of our locations.
To maintain and further improve the United Club experience, we're announcing the following change to our program:
■ Effective August 18, 2016, a same-day boarding pass for all United Club customers, including members, will be required for United Club access.
United Club membership is a benefit of your United MileagePlus® Club Card. With a United Club membership, you can still bring your spouse and children under 21, or up to two guests, into any United Club location.
Thank you for being a United MileagePlus® Club Cardmember, and we look forward to creating an even more comfortable and premium United Club experience for you.
Learn More
Dear XXXXX,
We've been working on a variety of improvements to our United ClubSM program. To provide a more productive and relaxing experience, we're investing more than $100 million in renovating existing locations and building new spaces with expanded seating areas, more power outlets and upgraded Wi-Fi. We're also investing in a brand new complimentary food menu that you can now find at our hub locations across the U.S. and will be available soon at the rest of our locations.
To maintain and further improve the United Club experience, we're announcing the following change to our program:
■ Effective August 18, 2016, a same-day boarding pass for all United Club customers, including members, will be required for United Club access.
United Club membership is a benefit of your United MileagePlus® Club Card. With a United Club membership, you can still bring your spouse and children under 21, or up to two guests, into any United Club location.
Thank you for being a United MileagePlus® Club Cardmember, and we look forward to creating an even more comfortable and premium United Club experience for you.
Learn More
I noticed this at JFK (that's ironic...) yesterday--
Someone else noted the sign at LGA in the United Club Access Thread ....
Someone else noted the sign at LGA in the United Club Access Thread ....
Hi everyone, some answers for you on this new policy:
- What about meetings/conference rooms? Will gate passes still be issued?
Customers can still reserve a conference room to use, with or without a same-day boarding pass. We will no longer issue gate passes for other uses.
- What about access after a redeye flight? Will this qualify as a "same-day" BP?
Yes, you will still be eligible to access the United Club after arriving off of a redeye flight.
- Will I be able to come in if I’m flying on another carrier?
Yes, you may use a same-day boarding pass on any carrier.
- What if my flight departs early in the morning, the following day (e.g. 12:30am)?
Yes, you will still be eligible to access the United Club.
Starting 18 Aug 2016:United Club Access (including members) Only w/ UA/*A Same-Day BP
#91
#92
Used to be MBS PremExec
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Location: Saginaw, MI (MBS)
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Posts: 5,722
To me, with the same day boarding pass requirement (and I'm guessing the aforementioned 'liberal interpretation' of said rule), the fact that it appears you really don't have to be flying on UA, exceptions given for meetings and no actual cancellation of the gate pass policy (yet)...Seems to me not much has changed, at least with the limited facts we have now.
Therefore, to me this is a data grab. UA wants to see/scan your boarding pass to see who else you're flying and when.
I could be way wrong, but that's what this looks like to me.
Therefore, to me this is a data grab. UA wants to see/scan your boarding pass to see who else you're flying and when.
I could be way wrong, but that's what this looks like to me.
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Location: ORD
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#95
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Monetizing the Clubs
Recall that elites are overentitled (Clubs are overly exclusive) and likely UCH (United Continental Holdings) and Chase have plateaued the number of Club credit cards they've been able to sell.
One approach UCH may be to further monetizing the Clubs by building out more option packages that SHARES can sell - free bag, priority boarding, E+, and now *same day Club access* - since they're spending investment on the Clubs. How about if SHARES can sell a Club access as well as Group 1 boarding access for their most desired customers (e.g. those who buy add-ons) at check-in?
Clearly giving away 2 passes per year isn't enough for all of those credit cards that D. Barrett has qualified for to entice the UCH flying public to either purchase memberships or upgrade the Club credit card.
David
One approach UCH may be to further monetizing the Clubs by building out more option packages that SHARES can sell - free bag, priority boarding, E+, and now *same day Club access* - since they're spending investment on the Clubs. How about if SHARES can sell a Club access as well as Group 1 boarding access for their most desired customers (e.g. those who buy add-ons) at check-in?
Clearly giving away 2 passes per year isn't enough for all of those credit cards that D. Barrett has qualified for to entice the UCH flying public to either purchase memberships or upgrade the Club credit card.
David
#96
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Probably no relationship, but 2016 is the year that all those people, like me, renewed for 3 years at the old rate just before the price increase. One more thing to consider, even though I don't think I've EVER used the club when I wasn't flying *alliance that day.
#98
Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: Homosassa, FL & Ringwood, NJ -UA-G(Lifetime); SPG-Plat (Lifetime)
Posts: 6,120
I paid for lifetime membership and the option to use the club at any time was a big factor in a decision that I paid thousands of dollars for. If UA changes the rules for me after I paid the money, something is wrong. At a bare minimum, they need to exempt lifetime members.
This appears to be just another beat down of loyal customers, telling us that they don't value our patronage.
This appears to be just another beat down of loyal customers, telling us that they don't value our patronage.
#99
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Meh. Clubs are still overflowing.
#100
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This is the 2nd bullet under misc on the terms and conditions page, bolding mine:
United reserves the right to modify pricing, benefits, services, hours, club locations and reciprocal lounge agreements at any time with or without written notice to its members and customers.
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/cont...virtual_expert
United reserves the right to modify pricing, benefits, services, hours, club locations and reciprocal lounge agreements at any time with or without written notice to its members and customers.
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/cont...virtual_expert
#101
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: VA, USA
Programs: Marriott LTT, United Club Life Member, UA *S
Posts: 995
I paid for lifetime membership and the option to use the club at any time was a big factor in a decision..... At a bare minimum, they need to exempt lifetime members.
This appears to be just another beat down of loyal customers, telling us that they don't value our patronage.
This appears to be just another beat down of loyal customers, telling us that they don't value our patronage.
#102
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Maybe they're trying to improve the quality of the Club experience for those of us who use the UCs when they're actually flying. I'm sure that United is aware of the complaints related to overcrowded clubs. I for one an sick and tired of getting off a plane at, say, ORD, walking in to a UC and walking right back out because there's no place to sit. Ridiculous.
#103
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: SEA
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6 pages of thread and ...
Me: GOod morning....( present club card)
Checker: I'm sorrybDr Laser Sailor , the new policy is you must have a boarding pass to enter the UC.
Me: I'll be booking my next leg over at the customer support desk in the club, is that ok?
Checker: of course, have a nice day
Me: thank you, have a great one!
Me: GOod morning....( present club card)
Checker: I'm sorrybDr Laser Sailor , the new policy is you must have a boarding pass to enter the UC.
Me: I'll be booking my next leg over at the customer support desk in the club, is that ok?
Checker: of course, have a nice day
Me: thank you, have a great one!
#104
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: SEA
Programs: UA SP, DL SM MM, AS 75K, SPG Platinum, Hyatt Diamond.
Posts: 2,596
Maybe they're trying to improve the quality of the Club experience for those of us who use the UCs when they're actually flying. I'm sure that United is aware of the complaints related to overcrowded clubs. I for one an sick and tired of getting off a plane at, say, ORD, walking in to a UC and walking right back out because there's no place to sit. Ridiculous.
I can just see it now, 24 hour fitness, is so successful at selling memberships, and god forbid people actually come to use the gym, hum how do we solve this problem?
Oh, I know we'll just limit when people can come...great, oh, damn you mean someone will start a class action against us? Or worse they will cancel and take their membership to Golds. No, they would be intelligent enough to expand, so they could sell yet more memberships, and make yet more money.
Only the idiots at United would see the success of something as a disaster they must mitigate.
Last edited by transportbiz; Aug 15, 2015 at 11:57 am
#105
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I have a hard time understanding why anyone that's not traveling wants to go to a united club.
I don't think there's a huge population who goes to the clubs to eat lousy food and drink lousy booze. Frankly, the club isn't worth the money even if you're using it when traveling! let alone schlepping to the airport and dealing with the TSA.
I only have the club by virtue of the credit card, and I only have that for the 1.5 MPD.
I don't think there's a huge population who goes to the clubs to eat lousy food and drink lousy booze. Frankly, the club isn't worth the money even if you're using it when traveling! let alone schlepping to the airport and dealing with the TSA.
I only have the club by virtue of the credit card, and I only have that for the 1.5 MPD.