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UA1126 DEN-ANC 4 July 2015 {planned fuel stop @ SEA}?

UA1126 DEN-ANC 4 July 2015 {planned fuel stop @ SEA}?

Old Jul 4, 2015, 12:39 pm
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UA1126 DEN-ANC 4 July 2015 {planned fuel stop @ SEA}?

Anyone know whats up with this flight? Flight 1126 took off from Denver en route to Anchorage and is now diverting to SEA.
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Old Jul 4, 2015, 1:07 pm
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Fuel stop

1126/04JUL
P IAH/OUT 857A E00.04 ☨
P IAH/OFF 913A
P DEN/ON 1013A
P DEN/IN 1024A E00.09 ☨
P DEN/OUT 1123A ON TIME ☨
P DEN/OFF 1135A
F DEN/ETD 1123A ON TIME
P SEA/ETA 1258P PLANNED FUEL STOP
F SEA/ETD 154P
F ANC/ETA 428P L01.33☨
F ANC/ETA 428P L01.33
D FCF/FSTOP SEA ENRT DEN-ANC A/PLANNED FUEL STOP

SKED IAH ORIG 901A GTD C-14 SHIP 3904
DEN 1033A 1123A GTA B32 GTD B27 SHIP 3234
ANC 255P TERM GTA B5
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Old Jul 4, 2015, 1:34 pm
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Yeah it was planned before it even left. Was either that or bump people off the flight for weight restriction.
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Old Jul 4, 2015, 1:55 pm
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Very warm in Denver today, so probably weight restricted. Thus the planed fuel stop.
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Old Jul 4, 2015, 2:35 pm
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UA announced SEA as a planned fuel stop. No biggie.
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Old Jul 4, 2015, 2:43 pm
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Originally Posted by rockdoc
Very warm in Denver today, so probably weight restricted. Thus the planed fuel stop.
How and why does the ambient air temperature affect takeoff weight restrictions?
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Old Jul 4, 2015, 2:45 pm
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Originally Posted by physioprof
How and why does the ambient air temperature affect takeoff weight restrictions?
Hot air is less dense and provides less lift. It's not really that hot in Denver today, though, so doubt that was the reason.
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Old Jul 4, 2015, 2:47 pm
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Originally Posted by physioprof
How and why does the ambient air temperature affect takeoff weight restrictions?
Hot air is less dense, thus planes generate less lift, which requires a higher speed for takeoff at the same weight. Higher speed means longer runway requirements. Combine that with being in DEN, which is 1 mile high anyway and thus less dense air to begin with, and you wind up with a double-whammy.
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Originally Posted by Doc Savage
Hot air is less dense and provides less lift. It's not really that hot in Denver today, though, so doubt that was the reason.
I'm in Denver right now, and it's 90 degrees here. That's hot in my book (but I have no idea how that relates to fuel efficiency).
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I dunno, you don't usually hear about the problems taking off till it is 105+.
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Thanks all for the info about air temperature and takeoff weight!
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Old Jul 4, 2015, 2:58 pm
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Originally Posted by Doc Savage
I dunno, you don't usually hear about the problems taking off till it is 105+.
Denver is already 5000+ above MSL, which further complicates matters.

In PHX, they occasionally have delays in the summer due to necessity for longer takeoff spacing due to the heat.
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Old Jul 4, 2015, 5:26 pm
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Originally Posted by PV_Premier
Denver is already 5000+ above MSL, which further complicates matters.
We also have a multitude of 12,000-foot runways and one 16,000-footer, which is supposed to compensate. @:-)
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Old Jul 4, 2015, 5:31 pm
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The other thing, which I only know tiny bits about, is that it may not even matter how much runway is required. It could be some other limitation where a plane is not certified to operate in certain conditions. For example, if the required takeoff speed is too high in certain conditions, the tire rotation speeds may exceed what the plane is certified for, and that could cause risks of tire failure on takeoff, which presents all sorts of problems in its own right.

So, if that was case, it wouldn't matter if you had a 200,000-foot runway, as that's not the limiting factor.
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