p.s. Operations Transitioning to EWR on October 25, 2015
Oct 24, 2015, 10:28 am
#1381
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Flying EWR-SFO on one of the last non-ps flights this morning.
Guess that's ...... something? At least it's an int'l 752. Only thing really missing are the duvets.
Guess that's ...... something? At least it's an int'l 752. Only thing really missing are the duvets.
Oct 24, 2015, 6:24 pm
#1382
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Oct 24, 2015, 8:47 pm
#1383
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Oct 24, 2015, 10:18 pm
#1384
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Would love to see some photos / get a report once the final flight touches down!
Re: Terminal C at EWR vs. Terminal 7...maybe not as convenient for security to gate, but at least I feel like I am in a modernized terminal. One thing that someone mentioned in one of these threads - if they could create customized designated p.s. gates at EWR, that would be really choice.
Re: Terminal C at EWR vs. Terminal 7...maybe not as convenient for security to gate, but at least I feel like I am in a modernized terminal. One thing that someone mentioned in one of these threads - if they could create customized designated p.s. gates at EWR, that would be really choice.
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Oct 24, 2015, 11:01 pm
#1385
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I booked my first PS flight out of EWR in early February. The price of front cabin travel (P fare) was lower than I'd ever seen from JFK. We're talking just under C$1,200 round-trip from Vancouver. Did I just get lucky or is UA offering discounts to fill up these flights' front cabins now that the A list are switching to other carriers?
Oct 24, 2015, 11:16 pm
#1386
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I booked my first PS flight out of EWR in early February. The price of front cabin travel (P fare) was lower than I'd ever seen from JFK. We're talking just under C$1,200 round-trip from Vancouver. Did I just get lucky or is UA offering discounts to fill up these flights' front cabins now that the A list are switching to other carriers?
I guess they must be discounting because the 'A list' is headed to EWR.
UA was matching that out of JFK and still is out of EWR.
The premium transcon market has had advance yields crushed by JetBlue. Been happening all year.
Those fares weren't less than $999 one way before Mint.
AA is pricing 3 cabin First just about $100 more each way than super discounted Business. Not much of a premium vs the floor space that takes up.
I hope the level of service quality can be maintained by the majors - that's going to be determined by the closer in yields.
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Oct 24, 2015, 11:47 pm
#1387
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The note is here (if I uploaded the photo correctly into Flyertalk):
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/membe...nited-note.jpg
Oct 24, 2015, 11:49 pm
#1388
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Oct 25, 2015, 1:29 am
#1389
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Last two times I flew LAX-JFK on AA in F, I paid around $550 more than business, o/w. Really depends on the fare classes available and the restrictions. On one flight I saw the pricing as $5500 for a biz seat and $3200 for the F seat.
Oct 25, 2015, 8:31 am
#1390
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You can fly Delta YVR via LAX for that price.
Point being - everyone's discounting at levels unseen before this year.
$1200 is a lot less than $1900.
There is nothing unique to United here.
Wait 3 months and if we see sub $599 one way on the EWR-SFO/LAX nonstops then something's up.
Wide, wide open for the 30-90 day booking window - look at Dec-Feb.
It's unheard of before this year to see 3 cabin first ever or even so widely available at a price so close to J.
And have seen this price since this summer in that 30-90 day window.
As much as I like 3 cabin first, the pricing here and really generous award space last minute isn't screaming that this product is long for this market.
I hope they can make it work, but seems tougher in this pricing environment. And the soft product still isn't all that different from biz, even with the meal changes.
It's clear JFK is more convenient than EWR for some locations in the tri state area. Just as EWR is more convenient to others.
But I don't get how adding a connection would ever be more convenient. You're adding 2 hours minimum each way. And you were willing to deal with the hassle of getting to JFK, which is hardly a picnic in its own right.
Or are you flying from SMF? In which case it makes perfect sense.
Hope the amenity kit is something permanent. That's a nice touch.
Who has a meal report?
Point being - everyone's discounting at levels unseen before this year.
$1200 is a lot less than $1900.
There is nothing unique to United here.
Wait 3 months and if we see sub $599 one way on the EWR-SFO/LAX nonstops then something's up.
Wide, wide open for the 30-90 day booking window - look at Dec-Feb.
It's unheard of before this year to see 3 cabin first ever or even so widely available at a price so close to J.
And have seen this price since this summer in that 30-90 day window.
As much as I like 3 cabin first, the pricing here and really generous award space last minute isn't screaming that this product is long for this market.
I hope they can make it work, but seems tougher in this pricing environment. And the soft product still isn't all that different from biz, even with the meal changes.
It's clear JFK is more convenient than EWR for some locations in the tri state area. Just as EWR is more convenient to others.
But I don't get how adding a connection would ever be more convenient. You're adding 2 hours minimum each way. And you were willing to deal with the hassle of getting to JFK, which is hardly a picnic in its own right.
Or are you flying from SMF? In which case it makes perfect sense.
Hope the amenity kit is something permanent. That's a nice touch.
Who has a meal report?
Second flight today EWR to SFO departed out of C95. A small United draw string pouch was given. Contained ear phones, Cowshed small kit and maybe eye shades.
The menu was printed on a single page listing NEW YORK SAN FRANCISCO LOS ANGELES service. EWR is so not New York!
I don't see us needing to fly PS anymore. From our home airport in Northern CA it is work making it to SFO. Add the inconvenience we have had the last few times going from the City to EWR versus LGA or JFK it is not worth the added comfort. It would be better to fly via ORD or DEN into LGA in the future.
The menu was printed on a single page listing NEW YORK SAN FRANCISCO LOS ANGELES service. EWR is so not New York!
I don't see us needing to fly PS anymore. From our home airport in Northern CA it is work making it to SFO. Add the inconvenience we have had the last few times going from the City to EWR versus LGA or JFK it is not worth the added comfort. It would be better to fly via ORD or DEN into LGA in the future.
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Oct 25, 2015, 5:27 pm
#1391
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Greetings Everyone,
The topic of this thread is UA's p.s. transitioning from JFK to EWR. Please focus the discussion on that.
Safe Travels,
J.Edward
UA forum co-moderator
The topic of this thread is UA's p.s. transitioning from JFK to EWR. Please focus the discussion on that.
Safe Travels,
J.Edward
UA forum co-moderator
Oct 25, 2015, 5:47 pm
#1392
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I bid my farewell to the JFK Louge staff last month.
I had fond memories at JFK in addition to the PS services......JFK-NRT on the 747-200SP, MIA-JFK on the 763 and 727, and many more.
I will be doing two PS flights in the coming week.....another era ended and one begins....
I had fond memories at JFK in addition to the PS services......JFK-NRT on the 747-200SP, MIA-JFK on the 763 and 727, and many more.
I will be doing two PS flights in the coming week.....another era ended and one begins....
Oct 25, 2015, 5:59 pm
#1393
Join Date: Feb 2002
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Here is a thoughtful blog piece interviewing many JFK agents:
http://upgrd.com/matthew/united-jfk-...certainty.html
Well balanced covering the positives and negatives.
Now will someone provide some trip reports!!
http://upgrd.com/matthew/united-jfk-...certainty.html
Well balanced covering the positives and negatives.
Now will someone provide some trip reports!!
Oct 25, 2015, 6:06 pm
#1394
Join Date: Mar 2009
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The book is copyrighted 2002.
The note is here (if I uploaded the photo correctly into Flyertalk):
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/membe...nited-note.jpg
The note is here (if I uploaded the photo correctly into Flyertalk):
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/membe...nited-note.jpg
I'm going to give EWR a try and have already booked a December trip LAX-EWR-LAX.
I posted some photos of 535 and video of the Captain's remarks, etc. over here:
https://www.facebook.com/United-535-...2496854848638/
Oct 25, 2015, 6:17 pm
#1395
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I got almost the exact same note, but on 535 mine said JFK-LAX.
I'm going to give EWR a try and have already booked a December trip LAX-EWR-LAX.
I posted some photos of 535 and video of the Captain's remarks, etc. over here:
https://www.facebook.com/United-535-...2496854848638/
I'm going to give EWR a try and have already booked a December trip LAX-EWR-LAX.
I posted some photos of 535 and video of the Captain's remarks, etc. over here:
https://www.facebook.com/United-535-...2496854848638/
