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Old Apr 10, 2015, 4:52 pm
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GSP-IAD-STT award won't price (due to MCT)
Can anyone answer why United website doesn't show this as a valid option when saver awards are available on both flights?
GSP-IAD 10am arrives 11:34 am (operated by trans-states airlines dba united airlines)
IAD-STT 12:10pm - 5:04pm operated by united.

I tried calling united help desk, but I got no help at all. Would have been more useful if I asked a random person off the street, or at least quicker.

I don't think it is a connection time issue because I saw another flight available from GSP-ORD, then ORD-IAD, which arrived in IAD at 11:39am and connected to the same IAD-STT flight. Does it have something to do with the "trans-states airlines?"
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Old Apr 10, 2015, 4:57 pm
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Someone will chime in regarding the minimum connection time in IAD - for both regional to international and for mainline to international.

It might be that regional to international MCT is 0.75 hours, while mainline to international is .50 hours (30 minutes) and hence why it can't be booked.

Of course, if both are .75 hours, your flight is still below 45 minute MCT.
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Old Apr 10, 2015, 4:58 pm
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36 minute connection - could be MCT issue, check the flight number against what's below.

Code:
STANDARD.D/D...D/I...I/D...I/I.
ONLINE    .45   .45  1.30  1.30
OFFLINE   .45   .45  1.30  1.30
** OR * ARE ALL
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 3250 - 6539 - FLT 3250 - 6539 ORD - CLE 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 3250 - 6539 - FLT 3250 - 6539 ORD - DEN 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 3250 - 6539 - FLT 3250 - 6539 ORD - IAH 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 3250 - 6539 - FLT 3250 - 6539 ORD - EWR 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 3250 - 6539 - FLT 3250 - 6539 CLE - ORD 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 3250 - 6539 - FLT 3250 - 6539 CLE - DEN 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 3250 - 6539 - FLT 3250 - 6539 CLE - IAH 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 3250 - 6539 - FLT 3250 - 6539 CLE - EWR 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 3250 - 6539 - FLT 3250 - 6539 DEN - ORD 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 3250 - 6539 - FLT 3250 - 6539 DEN - CLE 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 3250 - 6539 - FLT 3250 - 6539 DEN - IAH 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 3250 - 6539 - FLT 3250 - 6539 DEN - EWR 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 3250 - 6539 - FLT 3250 - 6539 IAH - ORD 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 3250 - 6539 - FLT 3250 - 6539 IAH - CLE 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 3250 - 6539 - FLT 3250 - 6539 IAH - DEN 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 3250 - 6539 - FLT 3250 - 6539 IAH - EWR 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 3250 - 6539 - FLT 3250 - 6539 EWR - ORD 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 3250 - 6539 - FLT 3250 - 6539 EWR - CLE 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 3250 - 6539 - FLT 3250 - 6539 EWR - DEN 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 3250 - 6539 - FLT 3250 - 6539 EWR - IAH 
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT    1 - 2119 - FLT    1 - 2119 AUA - ALL 
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT    1 - 2119 - FLT 3250 - 6548 AUA - ALL 
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT    1 - 2119 - FLT 8015 - 8714 AUA - ALL 
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT    1 - 2119 - FLT    1 - 2119 DUB - ALL 
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT    1 - 2119 - FLT 3250 - 6548 DUB - ALL 
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT    1 - 2119 - FLT 8015 - 8714 DUB - ALL 
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT    1 - 2119 - FLT    1 - 2119 NAS - ALL 
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT    1 - 2119 - FLT 3250 - 6548 NAS - ALL 
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT    1 - 2119 - FLT 8015 - 8714 NAS - ALL 
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT 3250 - 6548 - FLT    1 - 2119 NAS - ALL 
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT 3250 - 6548 - FLT 3250 - 6548 NAS - ALL 
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT 3250 - 6548 - FLT 8015 - 8714 NAS - ALL 
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT    1 - 2119 - FLT    1 - 2119 SNN - ALL 
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT    1 - 2119 - FLT 3250 - 6548 SNN - ALL 
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT    1 - 2119 - FLT 8015 - 8714 SNN - ALL 
UA-UA DD   .30 FLT    1 - 2119 - FLT    1 - 2119 YHZ - ALL 
UA-UA DD   .40 FLT    1 - 2119 - FLT 3250 - 6548 YHZ - ALL 
UA-UA DD   .40 FLT 3250 - 6548 - FLT    1 - 2119 YHZ - ALL 
UA-UA DD   .30 FLT 3250 - 6548 - FLT 3250 - 6548 YHZ - ALL 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT    1 - 9998 - FLT    1 - 9998 
  BERMUDA - BAHAMAS  
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT    1 - 9998 - FLT    1 - 9998 
  BERMUDA - BELIZE  
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT    1 - 9998 - FLT    1 - 9998 
  BAHAMAS - BERMUDA  
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT    1 - 9998 - FLT    1 - 9998 
  BELIZE - BERMUDA  
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT    1 - 9999 - FLT    1 - 9999 
  CANADA - CANADA  
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT    1 - 2119 - FLT    1 - 2119 
  CANADA - ALL   
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT    1 - 2119 - FLT 3250 - 6548 
  CANADA - ALL   
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT 3250 - 6548 - FLT    1 - 2119 
  CANADA - ALL   
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT 3250 - 6548 - FLT 3250 - 6548 
  CANADA - ALL   
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT    1 - 2119 - FLT 3050 - 3149 
UA-UA DD   .40 FLT    1 - 2119 - FLT 3250 - 6548 
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT 3050 - 3149 - FLT    1 - 2119 
UA-UA DD   .30 FLT 3050 - 3149 - FLT 3050 - 3149 
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT 3050 - 3149 - FLT 3250 - 6548 
UA-UA DD   .40 FLT 3250 - 6548 - FLT    1 - 2119 
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT 3250 - 6548 - FLT 3050 - 3149 
UA-UA DD   .35 FLT 3250 - 6548 - FLT 3250 - 6548 
UA-UA DD   .35 FLT 3250 - 6548 - FLT 9812 - 9814 
UA-UA DD   .35 FLT 3250 - 6548 - FLT 9873 - 9882 
UA-UA DD   .35 FLT 9873 - 9882 - FLT 3250 - 6548 
UA-UA DD   .35 FLT 9873 - 9882 - FLT 9812 - 9814 
UA-UA DD   .35 FLT 9873 - 9882 - FLT 9873 - 9882 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 3050 - 3149 - FLT 8015 - 8714 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 8015 - 8714 - FLT 3050 - 3149 
UA-UA DD   .40 ALL  - FLT 8015 - 8714 ALL - CANADA  
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT 8015 - 8714 - ALL  CANADA - ALL   
UA-UA DD   .40 EQP W   - ALL 
UA-UA DD   .30 
**-UA DD   .55 
UA-** DD   .55
Originally Posted by aacharya
Someone will chime in regarding the minimum connection time in IAD - for both regional to international and for mainline to international.

It might be that regional to international MCT is 1.00 hours, while mainline to international is .75 hours (45 minutes) and hence why it can't be booked.

Of course, if both are .75 hours, your flight is one minute above MCT and should be bookable.
GWP-IAD-STT shouldn't be DI, should it? US VI is US?
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Old Apr 10, 2015, 5:04 pm
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Originally Posted by mduell

GWP-IAD-STT shouldn't be DI, should it? US VI is US?
Ah - I didn't think of that and I also did my MCT math wrong.
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Old Apr 10, 2015, 6:24 pm
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Originally Posted by mduell
36 minute connection - could be MCT issue, check the flight number against what's below.

Code:
STANDARD.D/D...D/I...I/D...I/I.
ONLINE    .45   .45  1.30  1.30
OFFLINE   .45   .45  1.30  1.30
** OR * ARE ALL
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 3250 - 6539 - FLT 3250 - 6539 ORD - CLE 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 3250 - 6539 - FLT 3250 - 6539 ORD - DEN 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 3250 - 6539 - FLT 3250 - 6539 ORD - IAH 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 3250 - 6539 - FLT 3250 - 6539 ORD - EWR 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 3250 - 6539 - FLT 3250 - 6539 CLE - ORD 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 3250 - 6539 - FLT 3250 - 6539 CLE - DEN 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 3250 - 6539 - FLT 3250 - 6539 CLE - IAH 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 3250 - 6539 - FLT 3250 - 6539 CLE - EWR 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 3250 - 6539 - FLT 3250 - 6539 DEN - ORD 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 3250 - 6539 - FLT 3250 - 6539 DEN - CLE 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 3250 - 6539 - FLT 3250 - 6539 DEN - IAH 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 3250 - 6539 - FLT 3250 - 6539 DEN - EWR 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 3250 - 6539 - FLT 3250 - 6539 IAH - ORD 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 3250 - 6539 - FLT 3250 - 6539 IAH - CLE 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 3250 - 6539 - FLT 3250 - 6539 IAH - DEN 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 3250 - 6539 - FLT 3250 - 6539 IAH - EWR 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 3250 - 6539 - FLT 3250 - 6539 EWR - ORD 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 3250 - 6539 - FLT 3250 - 6539 EWR - CLE 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 3250 - 6539 - FLT 3250 - 6539 EWR - DEN 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 3250 - 6539 - FLT 3250 - 6539 EWR - IAH 
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT    1 - 2119 - FLT    1 - 2119 AUA - ALL 
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT    1 - 2119 - FLT 3250 - 6548 AUA - ALL 
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT    1 - 2119 - FLT 8015 - 8714 AUA - ALL 
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT    1 - 2119 - FLT    1 - 2119 DUB - ALL 
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT    1 - 2119 - FLT 3250 - 6548 DUB - ALL 
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT    1 - 2119 - FLT 8015 - 8714 DUB - ALL 
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT    1 - 2119 - FLT    1 - 2119 NAS - ALL 
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT    1 - 2119 - FLT 3250 - 6548 NAS - ALL 
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT    1 - 2119 - FLT 8015 - 8714 NAS - ALL 
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT 3250 - 6548 - FLT    1 - 2119 NAS - ALL 
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT 3250 - 6548 - FLT 3250 - 6548 NAS - ALL 
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT 3250 - 6548 - FLT 8015 - 8714 NAS - ALL 
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT    1 - 2119 - FLT    1 - 2119 SNN - ALL 
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT    1 - 2119 - FLT 3250 - 6548 SNN - ALL 
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT    1 - 2119 - FLT 8015 - 8714 SNN - ALL 
UA-UA DD   .30 FLT    1 - 2119 - FLT    1 - 2119 YHZ - ALL 
UA-UA DD   .40 FLT    1 - 2119 - FLT 3250 - 6548 YHZ - ALL 
UA-UA DD   .40 FLT 3250 - 6548 - FLT    1 - 2119 YHZ - ALL 
UA-UA DD   .30 FLT 3250 - 6548 - FLT 3250 - 6548 YHZ - ALL 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT    1 - 9998 - FLT    1 - 9998 
  BERMUDA - BAHAMAS  
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT    1 - 9998 - FLT    1 - 9998 
  BERMUDA - BELIZE  
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT    1 - 9998 - FLT    1 - 9998 
  BAHAMAS - BERMUDA  
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT    1 - 9998 - FLT    1 - 9998 
  BELIZE - BERMUDA  
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT    1 - 9999 - FLT    1 - 9999 
  CANADA - CANADA  
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT    1 - 2119 - FLT    1 - 2119 
  CANADA - ALL   
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT    1 - 2119 - FLT 3250 - 6548 
  CANADA - ALL   
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT 3250 - 6548 - FLT    1 - 2119 
  CANADA - ALL   
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT 3250 - 6548 - FLT 3250 - 6548 
  CANADA - ALL   
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT    1 - 2119 - FLT 3050 - 3149 
UA-UA DD   .40 FLT    1 - 2119 - FLT 3250 - 6548 
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT 3050 - 3149 - FLT    1 - 2119 
UA-UA DD   .30 FLT 3050 - 3149 - FLT 3050 - 3149 
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT 3050 - 3149 - FLT 3250 - 6548 
UA-UA DD   .40 FLT 3250 - 6548 - FLT    1 - 2119 
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT 3250 - 6548 - FLT 3050 - 3149 
UA-UA DD   .35 FLT 3250 - 6548 - FLT 3250 - 6548 
UA-UA DD   .35 FLT 3250 - 6548 - FLT 9812 - 9814 
UA-UA DD   .35 FLT 3250 - 6548 - FLT 9873 - 9882 
UA-UA DD   .35 FLT 9873 - 9882 - FLT 3250 - 6548 
UA-UA DD   .35 FLT 9873 - 9882 - FLT 9812 - 9814 
UA-UA DD   .35 FLT 9873 - 9882 - FLT 9873 - 9882 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 3050 - 3149 - FLT 8015 - 8714 
UA-UA DD SUP   FLT 8015 - 8714 - FLT 3050 - 3149 
UA-UA DD   .40 ALL  - FLT 8015 - 8714 ALL - CANADA  
UA-UA DD   .45 FLT 8015 - 8714 - ALL  CANADA - ALL   
UA-UA DD   .40 EQP W   - ALL 
UA-UA DD   .30 
**-UA DD   .55 
UA-** DD   .55


GWP-IAD-STT shouldn't be DI, should it? US VI is US?
Yes, USVI is domestic going there. Coming back you have to clear customs.
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Old Apr 10, 2015, 8:08 pm
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To answer the MCT question, try checking whether UA will sell you a GSP-IAD-STT revenue ticket on the same flights. We can't answer this for you because you haven't supplied the intended travel date (and flight timings can vary per day).
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Old Apr 10, 2015, 8:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Dr.milology
Can anyone answer why United website doesn't show this as a valid option when saver awards are available on both flights?
GSP-IAD 10am arrives 11:34 am (operated by trans-states airlines dba united airlines)
IAD-STT 12:10pm - 5:04pm operated by united.

I tried calling united help desk, but I got no help at all. Would have been more useful if I asked a random person off the street, or at least quicker.

I don't think it is a connection time issue because I saw another flight available from GSP-ORD, then ORD-IAD, which arrived in IAD at 11:39am and connected to the same IAD-STT flight. Does it have something to do with the "trans-states airlines?"
OP's inbound flight would be UA3376
OP's outbound flight would be UA1709

So the relevant MCT is:
Code:
UA-UA DD   .40 FLT 3250 - 6548 - FLT    1 - 2119
Which OP misses by a few minutes, but would be ill-advised anyway.
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Old Apr 10, 2015, 9:44 pm
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Thanks you'all, always amazed at how much and how quick I get help here. United won't sell the ticket. It must be the regional airline vs mainline MCT. I thought it was strange that a flight from ORD that arrives 5 min after the regional flight is allowed. Never knew that about the different MCT.
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Old Apr 10, 2015, 9:50 pm
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Originally Posted by Dr.milology
Thanks you'all, always amazed at how much and how quick I get help here. United won't sell the ticket. It must be the regional airline vs mainline MCT. I thought it was strange that a flight from ORD that arrives 5 min after the regional flight is allowed. Never knew that about the different MCT.
The longer MCT is due to the UX flights that use A gates while the mainline and other UX use C&D gates.
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
The longer MCT is due to the UX flights that use A gates while the mainline and other UX use C&D gates.
And five extra minutes seems a bit optimistic in terms of additional time needed for that A-C/D connection.
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