Cheap United 'A' fares really 'A' fares?
Jun 13, 2014, 12:15 pm
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And I would submit that from the pax perspective, the absence of the letters "UP" from the fare are significant. I have had at least two instances where I was able to overcome phone agent's confusion about whether I was entitled to a front cabin seat by pointing out that the fare code specifically says "UP." There's nothing similar in the UPDI fare codes, and I think people are going to run into more problems with them.
Jun 13, 2014, 4:47 pm
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got 250% miles on such a fare a week ago. They are treated like A fares.
Feb 2, 2015, 10:27 pm
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Cheap United 'A' fares really 'A' fares?
Hi everyone,
I booked a couple of the cheap United A fares I could find out of SEA since they seem to be $700-900 to NYC and some places in Florida.
The question I have is that while they show up as A Fares are they really A Fares? The reason I am asking is because the fare basis on both ITA and on the email from United shows:
HAA03AZN/HAA03AZN/VAA03AZN/VAA03AZN
I looked through past itineraries I've had with UA and I've never had a trip that the first letter of the fare basis didn't match the booking class.
The main reason I am asking is because I would be crediting to Miles&More and UA A fares earn 300%. But I obviously don't want to fly this if it credits as H or V class.
Thanks for your help. (Sorry... such a n00b on the whole fare basis/calculation thing)
I booked a couple of the cheap United A fares I could find out of SEA since they seem to be $700-900 to NYC and some places in Florida.
The question I have is that while they show up as A Fares are they really A Fares? The reason I am asking is because the fare basis on both ITA and on the email from United shows:
HAA03AZN/HAA03AZN/VAA03AZN/VAA03AZN
I looked through past itineraries I've had with UA and I've never had a trip that the first letter of the fare basis didn't match the booking class.
The main reason I am asking is because I would be crediting to Miles&More and UA A fares earn 300%. But I obviously don't want to fly this if it credits as H or V class.
Thanks for your help. (Sorry... such a n00b on the whole fare basis/calculation thing)
Feb 2, 2015, 10:59 pm
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Those are UPDI fares - economy fare basis that books into A.
On UA, they typically credit as A fares (although they are not supposed to). Let us know how they credit in M&M - don't think we've seen any data points on that yet.
On UA, they typically credit as A fares (although they are not supposed to). Let us know how they credit in M&M - don't think we've seen any data points on that yet.
Feb 3, 2015, 5:45 pm
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UA has some really aggressive discount F pricing out there right now. I'm seeing SFO-MSP r/t for $591 (P with T fare basis), which is barely 50% above the cheapest economy fare on the given dates and even undercuts the local LCC's (Sun Country) pricing.
I didn't book that, but I did book a o/w MSP-SFO using residual value of a canceled ticket. One-way economy would have been $344 (V class), while F (Z with V fare basis) was $443, or just a 29% premium! Interesting that both prevailing fares were V at heart.
Congrats, UA, you win. I no longer care about the upgrade lottery and will just buy up to your literally-cheapened F cabin if it fits my schedule.
I didn't book that, but I did book a o/w MSP-SFO using residual value of a canceled ticket. One-way economy would have been $344 (V class), while F (Z with V fare basis) was $443, or just a 29% premium! Interesting that both prevailing fares were V at heart.
Congrats, UA, you win. I no longer care about the upgrade lottery and will just buy up to your literally-cheapened F cabin if it fits my schedule.
Feb 3, 2015, 10:01 pm
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UA has some really aggressive discount F pricing out there right now. I'm seeing SFO-MSP r/t for $591 (P with T fare basis), which is barely 50% above the cheapest economy fare on the given dates and even undercuts the local LCC's (Sun Country) pricing.
I didn't book that, but I did book a o/w MSP-SFO using residual value of a canceled ticket. One-way economy would have been $344 (V class), while F (Z with V fare basis) was $443, or just a 29% premium! Interesting that both prevailing fares were V at heart.
Congrats, UA, you win. I no longer care about the upgrade lottery and will just buy up to your literally-cheapened F cabin if it fits my schedule.
I didn't book that, but I did book a o/w MSP-SFO using residual value of a canceled ticket. One-way economy would have been $344 (V class), while F (Z with V fare basis) was $443, or just a 29% premium! Interesting that both prevailing fares were V at heart.
Congrats, UA, you win. I no longer care about the upgrade lottery and will just buy up to your literally-cheapened F cabin if it fits my schedule.
I did something similar this week with trips from SNA-MSP and back. Ticket in A class was $69 more each way over economy, so I went for it. Hope the bonus miles and pqm post when I complete the travel later this month.
Mar 25, 2015, 7:07 pm
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"A" fare is really a "T" fare??
Really? I was looking at booking a 1st class "A" fare and when I read the rules, it showed that it is a "T" basis fare and non-refundable. I was hoping that an "A" would be refundable.
City Pairs Fare Class Fare Basis Code
MSY - SFO T TAA21AFN
SFO - MSY T TAA21AFN
If I look at "T" fares in economy, the fare is almost 1/2 the price. I don't get why an "A" fare is actually a "T" fare basis. Can someone try to help me understand this?
City Pairs Fare Class Fare Basis Code
MSY - SFO T TAA21AFN
SFO - MSY T TAA21AFN
If I look at "T" fares in economy, the fare is almost 1/2 the price. I don't get why an "A" fare is actually a "T" fare basis. Can someone try to help me understand this?
Mar 25, 2015, 9:04 pm
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Really? I was looking at booking a 1st class "A" fare and when I read the rules, it showed that it is a "T" basis fare and non-refundable. I was hoping that an "A" would be refundable.
City Pairs Fare Class Fare Basis Code
MSY - SFO T TAA21AFN
SFO - MSY T TAA21AFN
If I look at "T" fares in economy, the fare is almost 1/2 the price. I don't get why an "A" fare is actually a "T" fare basis. Can someone try to help me understand this?
City Pairs Fare Class Fare Basis Code
MSY - SFO T TAA21AFN
SFO - MSY T TAA21AFN
If I look at "T" fares in economy, the fare is almost 1/2 the price. I don't get why an "A" fare is actually a "T" fare basis. Can someone try to help me understand this?
On that route there are 3 T fares that book into T with varying restrictions:
Code:
Fare Basis Airline Booking Trip Type Fare Cabin Effective Expiration Min/Max Advanced
Class Date Date Stay Purchase Req
TEG14AKS UA T Round-Trip 382.00 (USD) E 03/31/15 10/28/15 SU / 30 14
TAA07AZN UA T Round-Trip 394.00 (USD) E 06/01/15 07
TEA21AFN UA T Round-Trip 404.00 (USD) E SU / -- 21
Code:
Fare Basis Airline Booking Trip Type Fare Cabin Effective Expiration Min/Max Advanced
Class Date Date Stay Purchase Req
TEG14AKS/UPDIUA T Round-Trip 800.00 (USD) E 03/31/15 10/28/15 SU / 30 14
TAA07AZN/UPDIUA T Round-Trip 812.00 (USD) E 06/01/15 07
TEA21AFN/UPDIUA T Round-Trip 822.00 (USD) E SU / -- 21
Code:
Fare Basis Airline Booking Trip Type Fare Cabin Effective Expiration Min/Max Advanced
Class Date Date Stay Purchase Req
FUA UA F Round-Trip 2816.00 (USD) F
F UA F Round-Trip 17586.00 (USD) F
J UA J Round-Trip 17586.00 (USD) B
Code:
Fare Basis Airline Booking Trip Type Fare Cabin Effective Expiration Min/Max Advanced
Class Date Date Stay Purchase Req
MAA00AFY UA M Round-Trip 1454.00 (USD) E
Mar 27, 2015, 11:33 am
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I have several from as recently as February, like IAD-SFO, which earned 3,628 PQM (2419 + 1209).