787fan

So after this config all Hawaiian 767 and 777 service will feature flat bed ? That would be a nice upgrade

hobo13

Why stop there?

anc-ord772

I think this makes a lot of sense, and I consider it an upgrade within the framework of reality. The sub-fleet is limited to the short range sUA 772 aircraft.

• All Hawaii 772 birds will get flat bed seats up front. I imagine these will be recycled IPTE C seats. People were livid about the barcalounger refit, so this is the upgrade everyone wanted.
  
  
• Yes, E- goes 3-4-3 which is similar to AA, but there is a very large E+ section which stays 9 abreast. Those that cant upgrade still have a decent E+ section.
  
  
• My guess, UNITED will deploy the sub-fleet to Hawaii, perhaps some northern South America routes which could use the cargo capacity, and maybe GUM. It's not impossible that we could see some hub to hub wide body action back in the rotation. I don't foresee the HD sub-fleet TATL, but I guess it's possible.

Way to optimize the aircraft and increase premium cabin comfort IMO. However, if UNITED gets greedy and sends it on TATL, big

kettle1

Americans are slimming down , so it could work. Thanks to Jenny Craig, Weight Watchers and the South Beach Diet. 11 across. At this rate go to 12 across.

Spirit, Allegiant, Frontier and Sun Country would be asking "how did the new UA think of this concept" - before us? Brilliant? @:-)

Flts to Hawaii - 10, 11 or 12 across would be "pure bliss" in Y. (Even 10 across would be terrible).

I'll be sitting in F with my lobster tail and fillet mignon and red or white "wine". Who thinks this stuff up? Some bean counter in Houston or "The windy city"?

JOSECONLSCREW28

Unless the company decides to put the sCO 777 or 764 on the HNL - GUM route these sUA 777s that are getting reconfigured will continue to fly to/from GUM.

anc-ord772

Rectified in original post.

why fly

AC uses slimline regional seats on Long Haul 777. We call them {HD} ships.
Hopefully United wont go to that extreme.
Seat pitch is only 31" because of slimline seats so reality is the seats are more like 29"

Its a race to the bottom, so far AC is leading not only did they add 100 seats they remove some of the washrooms while adding 100 seats.

riphamilton

flew with 2 GUM based crews today and mentioned the HD plans to some crew members; they all rolled their eyes. i don't get to fly with them often, but GUM based crews have always been super.

JOSECONLSCREW28

GUM based crews are some of the best it's a very small base and everyone knows each other etc. I'm wondering if it was because they were hoping to at least see the sCO plane back on the HNL - GUM - HNL & the GUM - NRT - GUM trips since after they pulled the 764 off the GUM flights and replaced it with the sUA 777, the GUM crews are stuck flying 737s. That's one of the main reasons a couple of the GUM based FAs transferred over to sCO and the mainland was because they wanted to fly other aircraft then just a 737.

bdraco

I will shift my IAH-Hawaii flights back to UA from AS if this turns out to be true.

anc-ord772

Why did you switch in the first place? You prefer AS 737 F over UA 737/757 F and 752/764 BF?

Kacee

Or AS F over barcalounger on the 772 Hawaii config? That makes no sense at all.

tuolumne

I wouldn't have a problem with this if it was relegated to only the Hawaii birds, but to see 10 3-class IPTE birds be dismantled is sad. That means these HD 777s are going to start showing up on the shorter Atlantic flights...that's not a net plus to me.

If they go ahead with this (which I assume they are), it's intresting to speculate where all the IPTE F/J seats go...those seats are only about halfway through their useful life (if that), and it would dumbfound me of they threw them away. I'd assume if they were smart about it they would:

1) Use the F/J IPTE seats from the 10 (?) 3-class 763s being reconfigurated along with the 10 777s F/J IPTE seats to fill in the 10 new 773s, and/or/either use them for:
2) The 28J configuration on the HD 777s

I'd say there's not enough IPTE J seats to go around, so maybe the 773s would get the new J product? Lots of unknowns at this point.

3Cforme

Seat pitch is a defined industry measure. It doesn't matter if seats are slimline or not. It can't be used interchangeably with legroom because slimline seats can offer more legroom for the same pitch.

LASUA1K

Has this been confirmed for the International birds? Last I heard it was only Hawaii config.

Is UA really replacing GF on these birds? Routes like BRU, FRA still sell GF.