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UA Orders Boeing 777-300ERs / 77Ws w/ 1-2-1 Polaris Business, 3-4-3 Economy
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I'm worried I am going to be one of those suffering in the back next month. Even as a GS with GPU applied to a refundable fare (purchased back in Dec), no dice on clearing. Now, many seats are gone, and I'm worried that it will be booked full by departure date. If that's the case, I am going to hope for irrops out of SIN so I can get the more comfortable B789 directly to SFO.
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Will see. I'm off topic... though I will say that I do not want to sit in the 10-across Y for a 13 hour flight..... no way. The premium they are charging for Polaris on that plane is ridiculous. They want almost $4000 in addition to what I have already paid in to upgrade into D, which is the cheapest option for Polaris. SIN-SFO routing is even more expensive.
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And work? I don't know how I could possibly use a laptop.
#1339
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As a silver, flying on deep discount tickets, as you have admitted before, what you do will not have a material impact on United. What matters is what business travelers, who are buying a week or so out - when flights are generally more expensive - will do. These folks tend to be repeat travelers, and more knowledgeable about what experience they can get when they buy a ticket, they often have options.
Looking at SFO-HKG (A route I fly often) for next week (out Monday, back Friday) UA is $1179 on the 3-4-3 77W, CX is $1830, and SQ is $2255. That price delta is huge: United's product is simply not competitive in Y with this plane, and as more people figure that out, it will put more and more pressure on last minute pricing.
Looking at SFO-HKG (A route I fly often) for next week (out Monday, back Friday) UA is $1179 on the 3-4-3 77W, CX is $1830, and SQ is $2255. That price delta is huge: United's product is simply not competitive in Y with this plane, and as more people figure that out, it will put more and more pressure on last minute pricing.
Your pride in your importance a customer belies the facts. The vast majority of tickets and revenues are purchased in advance by price-conscience customers. That type of customer pays the bills. Your apparent type of customer helps put the gravy on top. Without the first type, there's no airline.
One-off price comparisons mean absolute ZERO, ZILCH, NADA, for how an airline is doing on a route.
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I've never been a Silver in my life.... And I'm not a "deep discount" customer. That's pure fabrication. Makes you wonder what else is around here.
Your pride in your importance a customer belies the facts. The vast majority of tickets and revenues are purchased in advance by price-conscience customers. That type of customer pays the bills. Your apparent type of customer helps put the gravy on top. Without the first type, there's no airline.
One-off price comparisons mean absolute ZERO, ZILCH, NADA, for how an airline is doing on a route.
Your pride in your importance a customer belies the facts. The vast majority of tickets and revenues are purchased in advance by price-conscience customers. That type of customer pays the bills. Your apparent type of customer helps put the gravy on top. Without the first type, there's no airline.
One-off price comparisons mean absolute ZERO, ZILCH, NADA, for how an airline is doing on a route.
If I pay $500 for a one way F seat and receive all of my premium services included, I have a different margin than a Kettle who pays $200 for their one way Y seat and nothing else - but start adding $50 for bags, $50 for E+, $20 for priority boarding, and maybe buys $15 worth of F/B on board and at a much lower cost, hence their margins start to approach mine.
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If you're a non-discriminating kayaker flying on a long TPAC, why fly UA 10
Across if AA has 9 across?
I've avoided the 787 economy seating for this reason (9 across instead of 8 across) and may be forced to do the same now on the 777. Ugh. If the flight is looking full and there's no chance for an empty seat, it's not likely I'll stay on that flight.
Across if AA has 9 across?
I've avoided the 787 economy seating for this reason (9 across instead of 8 across) and may be forced to do the same now on the 777. Ugh. If the flight is looking full and there's no chance for an empty seat, it's not likely I'll stay on that flight.
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Well AA has 10 across too. But the point is still good. If the choice is between a 10 across 777 and a 9 across 777, I don't know many that would choose that 10 across 777 all other things being equal.
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I am not part of "many".
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I guess UA is betting that many aren't checking the seat map, don't realize that it changed even if they flew the route before, don't know that other aircraft or carriers are better, or prioritize price or routing or corporate mandate over seat preference. There are, after all, many (non-discerning) travelers who fly the likes of Norwegian, Spirit, Frontier, ...
I am not part of "many".
I am not part of "many".
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Don't sit in 8L if you don't want to hear the galley noises