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UA Orders Boeing 777-300ERs / 77Ws w/ 1-2-1 Polaris Business, 3-4-3 Economy
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Complete loss of GF cabin to SYD and HKG can potentially be problematic in the future.
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Not sure what the delivery timeframe is for these, but if it's in ~3-4 years that would be about time for a full refresh of the 777 cabins anyway, no?
Either these will be delivered with the new cabins, or they'll start retrofitting existing 772s with the new cabins that will also be installed in these.
Either these will be delivered with the new cabins, or they'll start retrofitting existing 772s with the new cabins that will also be installed in these.
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For those of you wondering why UA might be going for 777-300's rather than waiting for 777X's, it's all about net price. The 300s will be available 3-5 years before the X's; and even though the X's may have better fuel efficiency, the 300's have a lot better fuel efficiencies than the 744's and 777-200's that they may be replacing.
So you add the fuel savings you will get for the 3-5 years before the X's would arrive to the price discount you get from buying 300s rather than X's -- and this likely tips the scale in the 300's favor.
So you add the fuel savings you will get for the 3-5 years before the X's would arrive to the price discount you get from buying 300s rather than X's -- and this likely tips the scale in the 300's favor.
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I have to think these would go on 744 routes with less GF demand. I've heard from a number of sources that UA does in fact sell a number of GF seats to markets like LHR/FRA/HKG/SYD/NRT.
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As of a couple weeks ago, it was more along the lines of a ramekin of soup.
Add to it downward fuel cost projections, and burning a bit more gas may not be so costly after all.
For those of you wondering why UA might be going for 777-300's rather than waiting for 777X's, it's all about net price. The 300s will be available 3-5 years before the X's; and even though the X's may have better fuel efficiency, the 300's have a lot better fuel efficiencies than the 744's and 777-200's that they may be replacing.
So you add the fuel savings you will get for the 3-5 years before the X's would arrive to the price discount you get from buying 300s rather than X's -- and this likely tips the scale in the 300's favor.
So you add the fuel savings you will get for the 3-5 years before the X's would arrive to the price discount you get from buying 300s rather than X's -- and this likely tips the scale in the 300's favor.
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Because the 744's are long due, the 77W is a great fit
772's are being replaced by 787's
Also the 788 or 789 might have maintenance issues going forward that causes delays on routes that can't be delayed like SFO-HKG etc. The 744 routes cannot be delayed/cancelled.
772's are being replaced by 787's
Also the 788 or 789 might have maintenance issues going forward that causes delays on routes that can't be delayed like SFO-HKG etc. The 744 routes cannot be delayed/cancelled.
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For those of you wondering why UA might be going for 777-300's rather than waiting for 777X's, it's all about net price. The 300s will be available 3-5 years before the X's; and even though the X's may have better fuel efficiency, the 300's have a lot better fuel efficiencies than the 744's and 777-200's that they may be replacing.
So you add the fuel savings you will get for the 3-5 years before the X's would arrive to the price discount you get from buying 300s rather than X's -- and this likely tips the scale in the 300's favor.
So you add the fuel savings you will get for the 3-5 years before the X's would arrive to the price discount you get from buying 300s rather than X's -- and this likely tips the scale in the 300's favor.
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This management just doesn't want to spend the money to reconfigure existing aircraft.
On COdbaUA? That's an easy one. 3-4-3 in coach. The only open question is whether E+ will be 9-across as it is on AA. With United? It will almost certainly be 3-4-3 in E+ as well.
On COdbaUA? That's an easy one. 3-4-3 in coach. The only open question is whether E+ will be 9-across as it is on AA. With United? It will almost certainly be 3-4-3 in E+ as well.
Even AA offers 3-3-3 MCE, would UA not even meet that bar?
So long as Jeff et al. are driving this trainwreck bus, you won't see 3-cabin First.
I'd like to think they have enough intelligence to launch a new business seat -- not just for these Ws -- but also for the 87s and 350s. It's a crime that 787s are coming off the production line and have non-direct aisle access seats.
I'd like to think they have enough intelligence to launch a new business seat -- not just for these Ws -- but also for the 87s and 350s. It's a crime that 787s are coming off the production line and have non-direct aisle access seats.
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My AA EP friend just flew MCE HK-US on AA after missing their upgrade and they said the physical seat was the same very narrow, uncomfortable seat in the rest of the cabin, but the seats were spread out a little more for more space - but if your butt does not fit comfortably in that narrow seat, MCE won't help you.
Maybe this is an opportunity to join the rest of the industry and offer a real Premium Economy product that is 2-4-2 (oops, that's just like BF) with a physically larger and more comfortable seat, more legroom and better catering.
Maybe this is an opportunity to join the rest of the industry and offer a real Premium Economy product that is 2-4-2 (oops, that's just like BF) with a physically larger and more comfortable seat, more legroom and better catering.
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Hopefully they'll improve the BF seat by the time these arrive.
Ofcourse, based on UA's current track record when it comes to being competitive, they'll remove GF and BF and make it all Y
Ofcourse, based on UA's current track record when it comes to being competitive, they'll remove GF and BF and make it all Y
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15 hour flight to SYD, buy-on-board.