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UA Orders Boeing 777-300ERs / 77Ws w/ 1-2-1 Polaris Business, 3-4-3 Economy
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They should have ordered these birds a few years ago.
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77W good. Better have F class if they're planning to send them to SYD, or can expect plenty of defections to QF, including from me.
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Was there ever a commercial or advertising materials with the 777 that was a play on Vegas slot machines?
I've always had this image/memory in the back of my mind flying when I was a kid (which would coordinate with the 1995 launch) at some point and something about the new "lucky 7s" plane.
I've always had this image/memory in the back of my mind flying when I was a kid (which would coordinate with the 1995 launch) at some point and something about the new "lucky 7s" plane.
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If they get enough orders for the 777-300 and Airbus materially delays the 350's, they could cancel the Airbus order and be on they way to all Boeing a la CO.
Plus if they debut the make-your-own sundae bar they've been talking about, we could be flying a brand new 15 year old plane with a 25 year old paint job, eating ice cream like we are third graders. Talk about a nostalgic experience right out of the gate.
If they get enough orders for the 777-300 and Airbus materially delays the 350's, they could cancel the Airbus order and be on they way to all Boeing a la CO.
Plus if they debut the make-your-own sundae bar they've been talking about, we could be flying a brand new 15 year old plane with a 25 year old paint job, eating ice cream like we are third graders. Talk about a nostalgic experience right out of the gate.
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there is something very special about a two story aircraft...maybe we'll get another one day
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My guess is Global First is good-as-gone once these aircraft replace the 747s - next step is removal from the PMUA 772s. The product has zero value proposition and is barely competitive with the business class product of many foreign airlines. Our agency still can't even give GF away for the price of full business, which is seriously telling.
The concern here is the business seat - will it be 2x4x2 with the PMUA seat or 2x2x2 with the PMCO seat.
The concern here is the business seat - will it be 2x4x2 with the PMUA seat or 2x2x2 with the PMCO seat.
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My guess is Global First is good-as-gone once these aircraft replace the 747s - next step is removal from the PMUA 772s. The product has zero value proposition and is barely competitive with the business class product of many foreign airlines. Our agency still can't even give GF away for the price of full business, which is seriously telling.
The concern here is the business seat - will it be 2x4x2 with the PMUA seat or 2x2x2 with the PMCO seat.
The concern here is the business seat - will it be 2x4x2 with the PMUA seat or 2x2x2 with the PMCO seat.
There might be a slim 10% chance UA will finally wake up and install cirrus (or better yet, the new J available on AC 787s or QR 350s)
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I would certainly bemoan the loss of the upper deck J experience.
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Not sure if you fly UA much to remember, Glenn Tilton ordered the A350-1000 were said specifically to replace the 744, and to be delivered by 2019.
Not to mention, UA is not NW (DL), UA has more than 20 744, so the 10 77W ordered for now won't be able to replace the entire UA's 744 fleet !
This may be the beginning of the end for the 744s, but more immediately will provide a path for phasing out the older 772s. UA was the launch customer for the type. With an average lifespan of about 25 years on an airframe(Yes, I know we actually count cycles but work with me here), some of those first planes are about due for their trip to VCV.
The oldest PMUA 777 are approaching 20 years, not 25 years.
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I think UA is unlikely to outfit the 773 with GF if they install their rumored new 1-2-1 all-aisle access J product on it.
What's the likelihood of that? How soon before delivery would they have to develop and finalize it?
As a side question, if UA does install this new J and it is long enough for tall people and has a wide enough footwell for people with big feed and enough storage and privacy, what kind of GF product would they need in order to really differentiate it from BF at that point? I think they would need suite-level GF as a differentiator as well as a non-food soft product that they will not be able to sustain across their multitude of hubs or their staff. And if they had it I'm not even sure they could sell it.
Anyway, I don't mean to depress anyone, but I still hold out hope for:
1. New all-aisle BF hard product on the 773's.
2. 3-3-3 in E+ with additional perks and a higher buyup price tag
What's the likelihood of that? How soon before delivery would they have to develop and finalize it?
As a side question, if UA does install this new J and it is long enough for tall people and has a wide enough footwell for people with big feed and enough storage and privacy, what kind of GF product would they need in order to really differentiate it from BF at that point? I think they would need suite-level GF as a differentiator as well as a non-food soft product that they will not be able to sustain across their multitude of hubs or their staff. And if they had it I'm not even sure they could sell it.
Anyway, I don't mean to depress anyone, but I still hold out hope for:
1. New all-aisle BF hard product on the 773's.
2. 3-3-3 in E+ with additional perks and a higher buyup price tag
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I've flown low density reverse herringbone J on 'premium' airlines and it still feels like an assembly line. That's just impossible to avoid when you have 30+ people in a single cabin. Likewise, I highly down whatever new J seat UA is cooking up will have the same amount of personal space and storage as GF.