jjmoore

Officially denied again after calling MP to ask if they could set me up with the challenge, and they were able to resubmit me for the reconsideration. Same response as the first time... denied with no hope.

$45K PQD without even a challenge to make GS (I would have $20,000 easily during the challenge period with the TPACs).... I'm off to better *A carriers for my int'l J class travel. I don't feel like playing the crap shoot again this year, especially since I may be in the $50K - $55K PQD / 120,000 BIS range (which may be close again to the cut-off), and I know I can get a superior J class product on Lufthansa, Swiss, ANA, Air NZ..... UA just had their chance to secure me for the long term on UA metal.

Kacee

Why should they? UA will still share the revenue from your flights on LH, LX, and NH.

jjmoore

Just curious... does UA only share the revenue if booked on 016 ticket stock? A lot of what I am seeing on Concur AMEX is showing tickets booked on LH ticket stock or LX likewise... I would still credit miles (albeit fewer miles than if booked on UA metal or ticket stock)... I will be accruing a ton of miles anyway, so some lost mileage to enjoy a seat in J (or even F) on a LH A380/748 will definitely be worth it to me. I had the opportunities last year, but ended up booking as much as possible on UA metal to try to hit GS.

Anyway, it was a bit messy, but I learned a valuable lesson and that is to not play the game of uncertainty... I just need to book the best experience.

Skacorica

Not necessarily. Depends on JV, route and even on codeshares it's less likely than it used to be via seat blocking.

As I understand it most deals these days the most rev goes to the operating carrier...

micmcguire

I got the same email!!

Kacee

The statement is correct. If OP flies NH TPAC or LH or LX TATL, UA will share in the revenue. I made no representations concerning proportionate share, and it sounds like you know nothing save for hearsay. Although if you do have access to the terms of the actual revenue sharing deal, I'm sure many here would be curious to know those details.

GS8101

If you haven't flown LH380 J, it's worth a try. But I don't like the seat, hard to sleep. Th food is better, plane is newer, but I wouldn't fly it again at a loss of RDM.

My lesson learned is the opposite of yours, at/around the cut-off, it's a bit of crap-shoot, if I make GS, great (GS is much better than 1K especially in award travel and upgrades). But if I miss GS, it's ok, I will still get more RDM.

If one is not on the bubble or don't care about RDM, then yes, it is liberating to fly OALs.

Skacorica

Yes you did as his point was lost revenue. Seriously, not sure what your beef is w/ GS but you sure are quick to get your panties in a wad.

jjmoore

I am probably the wrong person to make these guesses / assumptions... but I would think that flights booked on LH metal as UA 016 ticket stock will have a different revenue sharing interest than a ticket booked on LH ticket stock on LH metal where only miles are credited to the MP account. I would think the latter scenario involves much less revenue shared between the two airlines, especially since PQD's are not credited in that circumstance.

I have to say that I am quite frustrated with how this year landed... I would have been completely fine with the challenge to make GS. I have been 1K for 5 years now.... 3 of those years involved $30,000+ base fare spend. In 2014, I spent 2nd half of the year in refundable fare classes almost 100%. I had 1 int'l C class booking, and a multitude of $1200 PQD puddle hopper rt's.... I am not sure how they could rule me out as a candidate, especially if they did the math looking forward as to how much revenue I would generate this year.... if I stick with UA solely, it will be a $50K - $60K PQD year (maybe more with some additional int'l)... but even at these levels, nothing is guaranteed, and I am not sure why I would like to play this crap shoot again. I know I was on the bubble, and I would never complain that I didn't get chosen outright... but to not even be considered for the challenge (even after a 2nd appeal)... that's a shame (especially since I could EASILY funnel $20,000 to UA in Feb-Mar alone).

With that said, I am done complaining on this topic. If anyone would like to see the gritty details of my travels last year for a closer assessment, please send me a PM and I will share.

Happy and safe travels, and maybe I'll be visiting the GS forums later this year if things work out.

KevinPK1

Well this post got quiet so either all made GS, or gave up... I never got any official emails (still) for renewal or reconsideration. Emails back and forth with lame canned responses. Most recent:


Dear Mr. "Nobody":



First, let me acknowledge your exceptional loyalty and valued business over many years. We appreciate you choosing United as your air travel partner. As I’m sure you know, Global Services is an exclusive invitation-only program which requires annual re-qualification and is limited to a very small number of top premiers. While your travel in the past has made you eligible for Global Services, your 2014 travel did not meet the threshold. We have, however, entered you into our review process on January 15, to take a second look at your account and you should receive a response within the next 7-10 business days.

As you plan your 2015 travel, it may be helpful to provide some background on the Global Services review process. While our criteria is unpublished, I can tell you that our review evaluates multiple criteria, the most critical of which is your flight activity on United relative to other top Premier members. It's important to note that our consideration does not focus on Premier qualifying miles or segments. Rather, we consider each member’s spend on flights operated by United and United Express. We typically invite those who have achieved very high levels of travel spend while flying in premium cabins or on fully refundable tickets with United over recent consecutive years. These levels tend to increase each year, so past travel activity may not be an accurate predictor of whether Global Services will be retained in the future. Global Services invitations go to a very limited number of our members, allowing us to deliver the best possible service to this exclusive group.

We wish you well in your travels, and we’ll look forward to seeing you often in 2015.



United Airlines

Global Services

Customer Care


I am pretty confident I will never get that "email" with the final verdict. So kicked to the curb. Having been GS for last 5 years, it is going to be a tough adjustment... Actually it just plain sucks!

McDew

Submitted for GS reconsideration on 13 January. Called GS today to check status, said it was still under review and stated that reviews been running behind schedule. May take an additional week or so....

KevinPK1

Based on the lame email I got above, GS said they registered me on the 15th and I should receive an email within 7 - 10 days. The email was sent today (1/27). So instead of by 1/25, more like middle of Feb? They also told me in a previous email they are very backlogged because it seems everyone in the world is submitting a request for reconsideration this year. I am still keeping my fingers crossed, but losing hope quickly...

bldr1k

I think they need to find a new person to run GS...

They are completely clueless.

KevinPK1

They are definitely not running the process very well this year and apparently overwhelmed with reconsideration requests for which they probably will never follow up on so it seems... I have accepted the fact that they are not interested in my request for renewal. . 5 years of GS was great and going to be tough not to have. Like taking candy from a kid!

kirkwoodj

I've seen you posting in multiple threads about this (FT no-no), but haven't seen your stats. Since you're making such a stink, please give us some evidence that you're at least in the neighborhood...