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Old Dec 16, 2014, 4:24 pm
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Old Dec 16, 2014, 4:38 pm
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I loved UAL in the 80's and 90's. On time, great service, FA's. Great.
Went all over the world free on Miles.

Hate it now.
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Old Dec 16, 2014, 4:51 pm
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United Airlines peaked in 2017. That is to say, it hasn't happened yet. But it will, if it continues to value high-value flyers over "cheap elites" like me.

RNE, Platinum for only $6k, but I really shouldn't be.
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Old Dec 17, 2014, 12:25 am
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When did United Airlines provide their best value to customers and why?

In 2010-2011 they provided me 4x saver to Florida over Xmas, Hawaii over spring break, and Europe for summer. And the year prior, 4x SWU/mileage upgrade at booking to/from Asia.

Not expecting that ever again.

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Old Dec 17, 2014, 1:04 am
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I am looking at some last minute holiday travel.

On every route there is at least one other option, sometimes 2 or more. Every time the UA flights have less inventory and higher prices. There are many routes where UA is selling the last few seats for $1000, and US/AA, B6, DL, AS, etc have 2/3 full planes and seats for $4-500.

So, UA is definitely doing something right. It may be good inventory management. Their planes are definitely more full to most vacation destinations and there are less *A options than SkyTeam or OneWorld.
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Old Dec 17, 2014, 3:13 am
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Old Dec 17, 2014, 6:02 am
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Likewise, early 2000's for me. As PE, I got 500 mile upgrade certs which could be (but I never had to) rolled over into RDM. In other words, I effectively was upgraded 20% of the time (the fractional earning rate for the 500 mile certs)...much better than I've seen with UDU. And, the 100% RDM bonus. And lower redemption rates for premium award travel.
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Old Dec 17, 2014, 7:00 am
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For me, it was the early 1990s, when I was a teenager. I didn't know any better then, but we were traveling in 3-class F to places like Australia and Hawaii during Christmas/Spring Break/Summer Vacation for a fraction the miles it would take today.

This continued into the late 1990s when I started traveling for work...Upgrades always cleared as a 1P, and more often than not, agents wouldn't even collect the paper 500-mile upgrades.

And it was still good up until 2010 or so until 500-mile upgrades ended. I went something like 2 1/2 years without missing an upgrade...Maybe missed a short ORD-PHL in there or something, but didn't matter, ORD-SFO, LAX, LAS, IAD, MCO...I ALWAYS cleared with a great strategy of using CR-1s and 500-milers. At the end of the year, I somehow still had upgrades left, even after upgrading companions on many of my trips.

I really miss the 500-miler system.
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Old Dec 17, 2014, 10:49 am
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It was great until shortly before the {merger}, when they introduced UDUs and tightened up on the routing rules. Before that a 1K would almost always clear with the instrument upgrades at their disposal. And you could get 5 segments each way on almost any transcon itinerary, including travel to spoke cities and north-south segs offering a 500-mile minimum for each. International itins offered even more segments - I remember doing 7 each way between SJC and LHR about 10 years ago.

After the {merger}, 1K upgrade percentages from SFO went out the window when virtually any Y or B fare was automatically upgraded, including inexpensive government-procured YCA fares.

Oh, there were nice unexpected bennies like notes from the captain and gifted bottles of wine from the FAs. I found the international C recliners to be perfectly adequate for sleeping - I really don't need flat beds and there are now less C seats available.

Sure, crews were surly sometimes, but they're still not consistent.

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Old Dec 17, 2014, 11:30 am
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"When did United Airlines provide their best value to customers and why?"

I think it was March or April of this year. Why? Because I was buying sub-$1500 all-in BF tickets to Europe from Hawaii. I really didn't care that I would have gotten better meals or service on Delta or American for $3000 more.
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Old Dec 17, 2014, 11:52 am
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Things were pretty good at the bottom of the last couple of recessions. I miss recessions.
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Old Dec 17, 2014, 12:01 pm
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Best value was when ticket prices were half what they are now, i.e., in the mid-2000s when the load factors were way below 100%. Ten years ago, a TATL wasn't a good deal unless it was less than $500.
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Old Dec 17, 2014, 12:08 pm
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Originally Posted by flyingnosh
Ten years ago, a TATL wasn't a good deal unless it was less than $500.
Summer of 2009 (I know, five years ago) saw upgradable ORD-Europe fares in the $600s all summer. Those were sweet. Combined with double EQM all year it was hard not to make 1K. Then there were the SIN runs of the 2001-03 era.
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Old Dec 17, 2014, 1:54 pm
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For me, definitely around 2009. Post-introduction of UDU, pre-introduction of tightened routing rules. 1P for Pennies on the Dollar. :]
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Old Dec 17, 2014, 4:01 pm
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