Nov 19, 2014, 7:52 am
Last edit by: FlyinHawaiian
Changes from the 19-Nov-2014 announcement regarding the 2015 MileagePlus Program:
Links are available to the dedicated threads that discuss the details and impacts of each change.
Changes effective 1-Feb-2015:
Changes effective 1-Mar-2015:
Changes effective 14-Apr-2015:
Changes effective 1-July-2015:
Unanswered questions:
Links are available to the dedicated threads that discuss the details and impacts of each change.
Changes effective 1-Feb-2015:
- MileagePlus will no longer provide Global Entry reimbursement codes for Premier Platinum and 1K members
- For tickets issued/re-issued on or after 1-Feb-2015, Premier Gold members will receive only 2 complimentary checked bags, up to 70 lb, for routes that do not offer free checked bags to non-status passengers
- Mileage upgrades for p.s. flights (JFK-LAX/SFO) will require co-pay for all Premier members for requests after 1-Feb-2015
Changes effective 1-Mar-2015:
- Award Redeemable Miles will be calculated based on the ticket price, not the distance flown.
- 2015 MileagePlus Change: New Partner Earnings Effective March 1, 2015
Changes effective 14-Apr-2015:
Changes effective 1-July-2015:
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Unanswered questions:
2015 MileagePlus Program Updates Announced (Master/Consolidated Thread)
Dec 11, 2014, 8:25 am
#151
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I'm not rich, can't afford to fly leisure as much as I'd like to, so why wouldn't I put the most thought into using those miles?
Not flying internationally status really isn't that important to me, I've gotten used to it sure and I love the small perks, but they're small.
So my goal is to not change my current lifestyle/work situation, and get the most out of the miles I earn. If UA weren't slashing their partners at the knees then I'd be going there, not that they care because they won't really see any extra revenue generated from me, but I would credit there and use miles with them. Instead, I'll keep earning them at AC and book my flights through AP.
There is no reason to fly to earn miles...but if you're already kinda forced to fly, why not earn them where they're most useful or "profitable" to you personally?
Dec 12, 2014, 4:21 pm
#152
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 1
With the 2015 changes, will service & benefits improve for Premier elite members?
Hi, people.
Haven't been your following discussions, but is Premier Silver/Gold/Platinum availability of benefits expected to improve with the 2014/2015 program changes? For one, it will be the first year that qualification dollars will impact the membership numbers, no? Just curious...
Haven't been your following discussions, but is Premier Silver/Gold/Platinum availability of benefits expected to improve with the 2014/2015 program changes? For one, it will be the first year that qualification dollars will impact the membership numbers, no? Just curious...
Last edited by Cadenza99; Dec 12, 2014 at 4:32 pm
Dec 12, 2014, 5:10 pm
#153
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Haven't been your following discussions, but is Premier Silver/Gold/Platinum availability of benefits expected to improve with the 2014/2015 program changes? For one, it will be the first year that qualification dollars will impact the membership numbers, no? Just curious...
Dec 14, 2014, 12:41 pm
#154
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The main one I can see is if you have a business class ticket for $7000 (8000 including tax), you will get 7000 x 5 = 35,000 miles (x5 for no status passengers, somewhat higher multiple for elite status) compared to maybe 8000 miles + 25% business class bonus = 10,000 miles under the old system.
Most of the changes are bad, I agree.
Most of the changes are bad, I agree.
Dec 14, 2014, 12:58 pm
#155
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I am waiting for the same question. For example, how about Air Canada or Lufthansa flights, airlines which are major Star Alliance airlines. The UA website says tickets with a UA flight number but operated by partners earn miles as if they were UA flights.
For Alaska's Mileage Plan (using Delta an example on an DL flight), you earn 25%, 50%, 75%, 100% or 125% of actual miles
25%: E class (which I think is not common)
50%: L, U, T, X, V class of service (which I think is very common for economy)
75%: H, Q, K class of service (which I think are less common and expensive)
100%: B, M, S class
125%: full Y class
For Delta's SkyMiles (flying on Alaska), very similar
50%: K, G, T, R
75%: Q, L, V
100%: B, M, H
Medallion Dollars: no
Medallion Miles to qualify (MQM): yes
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...-airlines.html
For Delta (flying on Air France), Business class earns 125-175%. This is usually less than if you flew business class on Delta. For example, west coast US to Europe might be $7000 round trip, yielding at least 35,000 miles. If on Air France, it might be 9,000 miles round trip + 25-75% bonus, which is less than 35,000 miles.
Another conclusion is that if you fly Delta, it doesn't matter if you deposit miles in DL or AS as far as earning more miles.
For Alaska's Mileage Plan (using Delta an example on an DL flight), you earn 25%, 50%, 75%, 100% or 125% of actual miles
25%: E class (which I think is not common)
50%: L, U, T, X, V class of service (which I think is very common for economy)
75%: H, Q, K class of service (which I think are less common and expensive)
100%: B, M, S class
125%: full Y class
For Delta's SkyMiles (flying on Alaska), very similar
50%: K, G, T, R
75%: Q, L, V
100%: B, M, H
Medallion Dollars: no
Medallion Miles to qualify (MQM): yes
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...-airlines.html
For Delta (flying on Air France), Business class earns 125-175%. This is usually less than if you flew business class on Delta. For example, west coast US to Europe might be $7000 round trip, yielding at least 35,000 miles. If on Air France, it might be 9,000 miles round trip + 25-75% bonus, which is less than 35,000 miles.
Another conclusion is that if you fly Delta, it doesn't matter if you deposit miles in DL or AS as far as earning more miles.
Dec 14, 2014, 1:37 pm
#156
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Location: Central Europe
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Dec 14, 2014, 1:43 pm
#157
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Could be as late as Feb 28, 2015 - hope not but no reason to assume it will be this month. The alignment of changes with calendar years has fairly disappeared from all the programs.
Dec 14, 2014, 1:53 pm
#158
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Dec 14, 2014, 3:07 pm
#159
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Dec 14, 2014, 3:40 pm
#160
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The changes don't take effect until March 1. Although agree, sooner would be better.
Yup. DL didn't announce it's partner earnings levels effective Jan. 1 until the first week of December.
Yup. DL didn't announce it's partner earnings levels effective Jan. 1 until the first week of December.
Dec 14, 2014, 7:57 pm
#161
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: The Castro, San Francisco, California
Programs: UA, DL, AA, Aegean Air, Cal Alumni (go Bears!)
Posts: 594
Truly disappointing that the MP program gets less and less attractive and the benefits continue to get reduced at the same time the qualifications get increased and the onboard experience continues to deteriorate. At some point even loyal UA flyers like myself are going to start walking away. I am a 10+ year 1K with 1.5 million miles who has been flying United since I was a kid, but at a certain point, enough is enough.
It is looking more and more like 2015 might be the year that I walk away . . .
Tim
It is looking more and more like 2015 might be the year that I walk away . . .
Tim
Been a loyal customer since they started non-stops to Seoul, Beijing and Shanghai. Been frugal since every $$$ is mine (Self Employed). So I resisted a couple of mileage tickets to try to get to the 1K requirement ($10K). Busting my B..s to buy a 1/2 Business fare, Coach to reach the $10K limit by Dec 31, but alas... next year it is going to be $12K to keep my 1K level for 2016. So, next year, I will use my free GPUs , then with all those extra saved miles, I will buy a bunch of free coach tickets for the second half of 2015, until all miles are used up. BTW: I will be a 1M / Gold for Life BS member by then.
Why? Because the $$$ comes out of my pocket.. and I would rather spend it on something fun like, College for my boys or a new car... or better yet.. add to my retirement savings. Sorry UAL, you are going to get stiffed by me and countless others, more than ever before. Punishing me for buying inexpensive fares you publish.....
If I ran my small company like that, and treated my customers this way, I would be out of business before you could say..... ooops.
Asiana and Korean Air, here I come. I really wanted to buy American. When you go to Korea, all the buses have slogans on them, "Buy Korean". Sad I am pushed away like that from our own countries corporate mismanagement. Used to be a Diamond member with Asiana until United came on the scene competitively. But I won't look back, because Asiana's got the best service of any airline I have flown on. The customer comes first attitude will win my $$$.
Enjoy your travels, Happy Holidays.
We had a good thing going UAL.
Scott
Why? Because the $$$ comes out of my pocket.. and I would rather spend it on something fun like, College for my boys or a new car... or better yet.. add to my retirement savings. Sorry UAL, you are going to get stiffed by me and countless others, more than ever before. Punishing me for buying inexpensive fares you publish.....
If I ran my small company like that, and treated my customers this way, I would be out of business before you could say..... ooops.
Asiana and Korean Air, here I come. I really wanted to buy American. When you go to Korea, all the buses have slogans on them, "Buy Korean". Sad I am pushed away like that from our own countries corporate mismanagement. Used to be a Diamond member with Asiana until United came on the scene competitively. But I won't look back, because Asiana's got the best service of any airline I have flown on. The customer comes first attitude will win my $$$.
Enjoy your travels, Happy Holidays.
We had a good thing going UAL.
Scott
Last edited by FlyinHawaiian; Dec 15, 2014 at 4:23 am Reason: merge
Dec 16, 2014, 3:31 pm
#162
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Programs: UA 1K 1.45MM, Marriott+SPG Plat, Clear, Nexus, Global Entry and MEX Viajero Confiable
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these program changes are just sad.. along with the new "accrual" process. I'm sitting at 880,000 miles so I'm unfortunately in it until 1MM 
Dec 18, 2014, 4:47 pm
#163
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Location: Vancouver, Canada
Programs: United MileagePlus Silver, Nexus, Global Entry
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For example, from United.com -
Flight:United 8100
Operated by Air Canada
Fare Class: Economy (L)
Flight: United 8101
Operated by Air Canada
Fare Class: Economy (L)
What is the qualifying miles earning on those flights?
Dec 18, 2014, 5:15 pm
#164
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you can research this at UA MP mileage earning for alliances and partners
Key items
Key items
- PQM & RDM earning is determined by the flight operator. How ticketed does not matter. Codeshares do not change the earning.Partner RDM earning after 15 March 2015 may change (and potentially PQMs?) -- UA is changing to cost based RDMs post 15 March and it is assumed but not known yet that partner RDM earning will change
- PQDs {if you are subject to PQD rules} -- how ticketed does matter -- see Earning PQM, PQS and PQD when you fly. Additionally a flight does not earn PQM or RDMs, it will not earn PDQs.
- The fare class of the operator matters, so if a codeshare you need to contact the operator to find the real fare class
- The program you are charging to matters, what you will earn crediting MP may be the same or different if you were to credit a different program
Dec 18, 2014, 7:45 pm
#165
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