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Old May 30, 2014, 9:30 am
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35,000 Miles for Taking A Loan?

Just received an email from United (pasted below). It seems to indicate that you can get 1 mile for every dollar borrowed as a loan.

If this is really the case, I would take the full $35,000 out to get the miles and then just pay it off immediately so there is no / minimal interest. Has anyone else tried this? Is there some sort of catch (ie. loan origination fee that would kill the deal)?

<redacted>, get your Prosper loan.
MileagePlus # <redacted>


Earn up to 35,000 award miles with a personal loan



Plus, earn 500 bonus miles just for checking your rate.1

Get a low fixed-rate personal loan through Prosper for your next vacation, home improvement project, small business expenses or other needs. You’ll earn 1 mile per $1 borrowed, up to 35,000 miles — that’s enough for a Saver Award ticket within the U.S. and Canada.2

The process is fast, easy and secure. You can see your rate instantly — without impacting your credit score — and there are no prepayment penalties or hidden fees.3
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Old May 30, 2014, 9:33 am
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If you have excellent credit, Prosper will charge a 0.5% "closing fee".

Otherwise 4% or 5% (definitely not worth it).

So you may be able to buy 35k UA miles for $175 plus a small amount of interest, somewhere between 0.5 and 1 cpm.
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Old May 30, 2014, 9:40 am
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Thanks and with the term "closing fee" I was able to find this documentation which shows the fees:

https://www.prosper.com/help/contextual/fees/
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Old May 30, 2014, 10:36 am
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Can't wait for UA to start offering miles on payday loans.
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Old May 30, 2014, 10:57 am
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Originally Posted by mherdeg
If you have excellent credit, Prosper will charge a 0.5% "closing fee".

Otherwise 4% or 5% (definitely not worth it).

So you may be able to buy 35k UA miles for $175 plus a small amount of interest, somewhere between 0.5 and 1 cpm.
Yeah, how much interest would you have to pay?
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Old May 30, 2014, 4:00 pm
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Are there penalties for early payoff is more the question. If I borrowed the money and decided at the end of the month I didn't really need it, could I pay it off without penalty?

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Old May 30, 2014, 4:05 pm
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Car title loans is next, can't wait!
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Old May 30, 2014, 5:28 pm
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The questions is whether I can pay the loan back with my Presidential Plus card. $175 for 35000 RDMs + 35000 RDMs + 8750 FEQMs would be totally worth it.
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Old May 30, 2014, 5:32 pm
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Originally Posted by worldwidedreamer
The questions is whether I can pay the loan back with my Presidential Plus card. $175 for 35000 RDMs + 35000 RDMs + 8750 FEQMs would be totally worth it.
I was hoping some math / rule wiz would come up with something that actually makes this a profitable exercise
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Old May 30, 2014, 5:32 pm
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Correction: a $2k origination fee makes this not worthwhile. My credit score is excellent, btw.
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Old May 30, 2014, 9:46 pm
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Originally Posted by worldwidedreamer
Correction: a $2k origination fee makes this not worthwhile. My credit score is excellent, btw.
2k origination fee on 35k $$?

Holy *#)*%! While not usurious, it's getting close to one of those payday loan places.

High class, United. High class.
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Old May 30, 2014, 10:11 pm
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You can get 500 miles for just checking your rate it seems. Terms here

500 BONUS MILES PROMOTION. Prospective borrowers are eligible to receive 500 bonus miles by completing an application. To be eligible for these 500 bonus miles, borrowers must complete the "Get a Custom Rate in 1 Click" section. This promotion can only be credited to an individual MileagePlus number once and is limited to the first 2,500 MileagePlus members that apply by June 13, 2014. All other conditions apply.

The real question is whether they do a hard or soft pull for this or not. I did a bit of research and it looks like they do a soft pull to see your rates and a hard pull to close the loan (which means there is even less of a reason to actually get the loan section of the promo).


Seems you need to have received the e-mail from United as it has a unique code. Free travel guys posted this link:

https://www.prosper.com/lp/mileagepl...ied%20Partners

To anybody else who received it, was it the same or something in the string different? I Imagine UMPH or TAUMPH would be the unique section.
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Old Dec 18, 2014, 9:45 am
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Originally Posted by Doctor of Credit
You can get 500 miles for just checking your rate it seems. Terms here




The real question is whether they do a hard or soft pull for this or not. I did a bit of research and it looks like they do a soft pull to see your rates and a hard pull to close the loan (which means there is even less of a reason to actually get the loan section of the promo).


Seems you need to have received the e-mail from United as it has a unique code. Free travel guys posted this link:

https://www.prosper.com/lp/mileagepl...ied%20Partners

To anybody else who received it, was it the same or something in the string different? I Imagine UMPH or TAUMPH would be the unique section.

What happens if the application is approved though; do you have an opportunity to turn it down? It indicates that you actually need to submit an application for approval. I imagine they only offer that additional bonus to card members who would qualify for approval (ie. A+ credit, high credit line) and would therefore not be typical candidates for taking out high-interest loans from Prosper as they would surely have better resources available to them, so the 500 bonus is incentive (albeit a pretty lame one!). The problem is that if you qualify for the bonus miles, you probably automatically qualify for the loan approval as well, which means you could get stuck with this.

This is pretty classless and all these sneaky promo offers and point devaluations has me reconsidering renewal with CSP. I think I'm going to AmEx SPG for my next card.
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Old Dec 18, 2014, 11:35 am
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Originally Posted by ryman554
2k origination fee on 35k $$?

Holy *#)*%! While not usurious, it's getting close to one of those payday loan places.

High class, United. High class.
Dosen't UA just take a fee for the merchant to purchase these miles to give out to users so its just a business deal between UA and the merchant?

I don't believe UA is trying to align itself with the best lender out there or merchant but its all business between someone who will give UA money for miles. I get UA miles for my electric company as well as airport parking and would use a bank loan that also gave UA miles if I needed to.
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Old Dec 18, 2014, 12:48 pm
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Got the same email this morning. I can't believe UA is actually promoting that people take out a loan for miles. As if most people don't have enough debt already.
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