Last edit by: aacharya
West Coast route cuts/additions/material changes:
LAX - 8 daily ends 1 daily starts net reduction 7 daily
LAX-PIT (1x daily)
LAX-PDX (2x daily ended)
LAX-SJC (2x daily)
LAX-BFL (Bakersfield, CA) (2x daily ended)
LAX-YLW (1x daily, moved to SFO)
4 gates in Terminal 6 leased to AA (Gates 60-63)
ADDED LAX-MEL (789)
ADDED LAX-MSP (CR7)
LAX-CLD (7x daily ending May 2015)
SFO
SFO-NRT (reduced x1 777/day, switched to HND)
SFO-LMT (Klamath Falls, OR)(ended)
SFO-MOD (Modesto, CA) (ended)
ADDED SFO-HND (1x daily 772, moved from NRT)
ADDED SFO-YLW (1x daily CR2, moved from LAX)
ADDED SFO-ATL (2x daily 738)
Expanded SFO-MSP (previously 1x daily mainline, winter 2x E75, next summer 1x E75 + 1x mainline)
Expanded SFO-STL (previously 1x daily mainline, soon 1xE75 + 1x mainline)
Expanded SFO-RDU 2x daily mainline over the summer
SEA
SEA-NRT (gone)
SEA-GEG (gone)
SEA-ANC (ended)
SEA-CLE (seasonal, gone)
PDX
PDX-SEA (ended)
PDX-EUG (ended)
PDX-RDM (ended)
PDX-CLE (seasonal, gone)
PDX-LMT (Klamath Falls, OR)(ended)
LAS
LAS-FAT (Fresno CA)
LAS-PSP (Palm Springs, CA)
LAX - 8 daily ends 1 daily starts net reduction 7 daily
LAX-PIT (1x daily)
LAX-PDX (2x daily ended)
LAX-SJC (2x daily)
LAX-BFL (Bakersfield, CA) (2x daily ended)
LAX-YLW (1x daily, moved to SFO)
4 gates in Terminal 6 leased to AA (Gates 60-63)
ADDED LAX-MEL (789)
ADDED LAX-MSP (CR7)
LAX-CLD (7x daily ending May 2015)
SFO
SFO-NRT (reduced x1 777/day, switched to HND)
SFO-LMT (Klamath Falls, OR)(ended)
SFO-MOD (Modesto, CA) (ended)
ADDED SFO-HND (1x daily 772, moved from NRT)
ADDED SFO-YLW (1x daily CR2, moved from LAX)
ADDED SFO-ATL (2x daily 738)
Expanded SFO-MSP (previously 1x daily mainline, winter 2x E75, next summer 1x E75 + 1x mainline)
Expanded SFO-STL (previously 1x daily mainline, soon 1xE75 + 1x mainline)
Expanded SFO-RDU 2x daily mainline over the summer
SEA
SEA-NRT (gone)
SEA-GEG (gone)
SEA-ANC (ended)
SEA-CLE (seasonal, gone)
PDX
PDX-SEA (ended)
PDX-EUG (ended)
PDX-RDM (ended)
PDX-CLE (seasonal, gone)
PDX-LMT (Klamath Falls, OR)(ended)
LAS
LAS-FAT (Fresno CA)
LAS-PSP (Palm Springs, CA)
[Consolidated] United Express (UX) route cuts [2014 & onward]
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Wow, PDX-LAX? It looks like DL will take over the LAX traffic. UA running again. As I have said, you put express only flights, people will eventually fly someone else. You put crj200, everyone will find a different option.
People aren't dumb and they know what aircraft they are on these days. This isn't 10 years ago.
Anyway, LAX will probably lose SEA next. Pretty sure of that.
People aren't dumb and they know what aircraft they are on these days. This isn't 10 years ago.
Anyway, LAX will probably lose SEA next. Pretty sure of that.
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No more PDX-SEA-FRA/ICN/NRT/TPE on star alliance Always fly PDX-SEA-FRA. The UAX portion is ALWAYS consistently full of people transiting to SEA-FRA. Not looking forward to being rerouted via SFO, DEN or ORD.
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These E120 routes were always a great way to add a few miles to my trips to SEA or PDX. Agreed cutting PDX-LAX is just nuts.
If the E120's are going away does this mean SAN-LAX frequency is next on the chopping block?!
If the E120's are going away does this mean SAN-LAX frequency is next on the chopping block?!
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Any guesses when Air Jeff decides to tell me about this for my flight booked PDX-SEA on 4/1/15? Contest anyone?
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This is pathetic. Simply pathetic. Project Quality! Cutting to prosperity and increasing shareholder value! Rah rah!
I guess I have only myself to blame. I would take a superior AS/QX Q400 running just about hourly any day of the week between PDX and SEA over an oddly timed UA/OO E120....and I do regularly. QX used to even throw a couple CRJ700s on PDX - SEA before they sold them to OO.
I really wonder how much of this decision is driven by the DL and OO relationship since the NW E120 flying was at OO risk? This whole industry just seems so incestuous and collusive now.
As far as PDX - LAX that is just sad. I remember flights when I was a wee lad between LAX and PDX on old UA 727-100s in the late 70s. UA used to OWN the west coast...literally. The original terminal building at PDX was constructed and owned by UA. The original foundation is still there and is near where the current fire station and FAA facility is off Marine Dr.
I guess I have only myself to blame. I would take a superior AS/QX Q400 running just about hourly any day of the week between PDX and SEA over an oddly timed UA/OO E120....and I do regularly. QX used to even throw a couple CRJ700s on PDX - SEA before they sold them to OO.
I really wonder how much of this decision is driven by the DL and OO relationship since the NW E120 flying was at OO risk? This whole industry just seems so incestuous and collusive now.
As far as PDX - LAX that is just sad. I remember flights when I was a wee lad between LAX and PDX on old UA 727-100s in the late 70s. UA used to OWN the west coast...literally. The original terminal building at PDX was constructed and owned by UA. The original foundation is still there and is near where the current fire station and FAA facility is off Marine Dr.
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Wow, PDX-LAX? It looks like DL will take over the LAX traffic. UA running again. As I have said, you put express only flights, people will eventually fly someone else. You put crj200, everyone will find a different option.
People aren't dumb and they know what aircraft they are on these days. This isn't 10 years ago.
Anyway, LAX will probably lose SEA next. Pretty sure of that.
People aren't dumb and they know what aircraft they are on these days. This isn't 10 years ago.
Anyway, LAX will probably lose SEA next. Pretty sure of that.
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They certainly are not. There would be no strategic balance, cross-feed, etc. in AS-UA. What AS needs from partnerships is national coverage where AS doesn't go (and UA has nothing going in the Southeast) and international mile-earning options (which AS has well-covered with BA, EK, CX, KE, QF, AF, KL, AM, and LA -- any of which most people would prefer to fly over UA). UA has no international routes anymore from SEA, so they'd hardly replace DL, and shrinking domestic coverage ex-SEA. Literally, UA has nothing to offer AS.