Voluntary Denied Boarding - VDB/Bump on UA 2014
Apr 22, 2014, 10:54 am
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Apr 22, 2014, 11:06 am
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Yes, I've received this a few times as well. Most recently was this past Friday when they swapped SFO-ORD 777 2-cabin Hawaii to a 777 3-cabin International. That's a loss of about 80 seats. Got $300 to move to a different flight.
This advance VDB by phone is a win-win, really. Although the comp may be a bit lower, the pax gets a bird in the hand, and you can work with them to get something that suits you that may not have been available through traditional VDBing (e.g., you can leave earlier, which is not possible on an airport VDB) or take something that may be convenient from home, but a hassle if you're already at the airport (e.g., different departure airport, leaving substantially later, or leaving tomorrow instead).
This advance VDB by phone is a win-win, really. Although the comp may be a bit lower, the pax gets a bird in the hand, and you can work with them to get something that suits you that may not have been available through traditional VDBing (e.g., you can leave earlier, which is not possible on an airport VDB) or take something that may be convenient from home, but a hassle if you're already at the airport (e.g., different departure airport, leaving substantially later, or leaving tomorrow instead).
Apr 22, 2014, 11:07 am
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Agreed here... the only times I got paid off nicely like this were when they were IDB'ing people as well.... related to this point, I miss the pre-merger UA days where it was always a $400 voucher to bump off.
Apr 22, 2014, 12:45 pm
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I prefer these email offers, although they are probably lower than they would offer at the airport, you don't have to pack up and head to the airport and hang around for a few hours to go back home again.
I also picked more favorable flights to me. On all of them, I was upgraded with CPU after I was rebooked.
Apr 22, 2014, 12:59 pm
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Apr 22, 2014, 1:06 pm
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I took $600 at IAD recently and heard another flight was offering $500 (since of course you can hear 10 flights at once in the A gates). I had personally never seen anything higher than $500 for a domestic flight and that was only once before. Maybe they are making an effort to IDB less? They still had to IDB 2 individuals off the flight so they were pretty desperate.
Apr 22, 2014, 1:32 pm
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I took $600 at IAD recently and heard another flight was offering $500 (since of course you can hear 10 flights at once in the A gates). I had personally never seen anything higher than $500 for a domestic flight and that was only once before. Maybe they are making an effort to IDB less? They still had to IDB 2 individuals off the flight so they were pretty desperate.
I saw the two IDBs at the hotel later, and they chose to take the cash - and it was nowhere near $500 they said. I wonder how thats possible at 400% of one-way fare, or if UA pulled a fast one on them.
Apr 22, 2014, 1:40 pm
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If it's IAD-YYZ (assuming based on your location), the lowest fare in that market is $72 all in, or $56 one way, so 400% would be just $224.
If it was a connecting flight, it could be worse. PQDs gives you an idea how it's split up, but it could be even much worse since IAD-YYZ is so short. FLL-YYZ has a base fare of $106. With an IAD connection, IAD-YYZ pro-rates down to $29.35 using a rough distance calculation. 4x that would be just $117.
btw, as an aside, if you did not volunteer to take a flight the next day, you were still also an IDB even if you elected to take the voucher compensation offered in lieu of the cash.
Apr 22, 2014, 1:59 pm
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If it's IAD-YYZ (assuming based on your location), the lowest fare in that market is $72 all in, or $56 one way, so 400% would be just $224.
If it was a connecting flight, it could be worse. PQDs gives you an idea how it's split up, but it could be even much worse since IAD-YYZ is so short. FLL-YYZ has a base fare of $106. With an IAD connection, IAD-YYZ pro-rates down to $29.35 using a rough distance calculation. 4x that would be just $117.
btw, as an aside, if you did not volunteer to take a flight the next day, you were still also an IDB even if you elected to take the voucher compensation offered in lieu of the cash.
If it was a connecting flight, it could be worse. PQDs gives you an idea how it's split up, but it could be even much worse since IAD-YYZ is so short. FLL-YYZ has a base fare of $106. With an IAD connection, IAD-YYZ pro-rates down to $29.35 using a rough distance calculation. 4x that would be just $117.
btw, as an aside, if you did not volunteer to take a flight the next day, you were still also an IDB even if you elected to take the voucher compensation offered in lieu of the cash.
I was rebooked the same day, however on the rebooked flight I was IDB'ed but they claimed weight (even though the gate agent initially said two broken seats, but backtracked later *shock*) on the DH2 and gave me the max of $150
wow, that is really bad for IDB, so its based on lowest fare in market? Not the fare one paid?
Apr 22, 2014, 2:23 pm
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I was rebooked the same day, however on the rebooked flight I was IDB'ed but they claimed weight (even though the gate agent initially said two broken seats, but backtracked later *shock*) on the DH2 and gave me the max of $150
wow, that is really bad for IDB, so its based on lowest fare in market? Not the fare one paid?
wow, that is really bad for IDB, so its based on lowest fare in market? Not the fare one paid?
Apr 22, 2014, 3:32 pm
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If it's IAD-YYZ (assuming based on your location), the lowest fare in that market is $72 all in, or $56 one way, so 400% would be just $224.
If it was a connecting flight, it could be worse. PQDs gives you an idea how it's split up, but it could be even much worse since IAD-YYZ is so short. FLL-YYZ has a base fare of $106. With an IAD connection, IAD-YYZ pro-rates down to $29.35 using a rough distance calculation. 4x that would be just $117.
btw, as an aside, if you did not volunteer to take a flight the next day, you were still also an IDB even if you elected to take the voucher compensation offered in lieu of the cash.
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Apr 22, 2014, 10:02 pm
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Just curious... is IDB decided based on check-in order? Or is it decided based on fare class? I remember an instance probably 5 years ago at IAD while waiting in the A terminal for my puddle hopper to STL, and the flight next door was oversold by 4. The GA told everyone that if they did not get volunteers, they would select the IDB's based on who paid the lowest fare for the flight..... remember this very clearly.... but many things change in 5 years. Does anyone know?
Apr 23, 2014, 5:46 am
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Just curious... is IDB decided based on check-in order? Or is it decided based on fare class? I remember an instance probably 5 years ago at IAD while waiting in the A terminal for my puddle hopper to STL, and the flight next door was oversold by 4. The GA told everyone that if they did not get volunteers, they would select the IDB's based on who paid the lowest fare for the flight..... remember this very clearly.... but many things change in 5 years. Does anyone know?
Now this was because the GA was new at the job, and went by what the computer told him to do.
The manager after told him never to bump
a) people with connections, especially international
b) 1Ks!
I doubt fare paid has anything to do with this.
Apr 23, 2014, 8:04 am
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I was IDB'ed on a Y fare, apparently because I checked in last.
Now this was because the GA was new at the job, and went by what the computer told him to do.
The manager after told him never to bump
a) people with connections, especially international
b) 1Ks!
I doubt fare paid has anything to do with this.
Now this was because the GA was new at the job, and went by what the computer told him to do.
The manager after told him never to bump
a) people with connections, especially international
b) 1Ks!
I doubt fare paid has anything to do with this.
Apr 23, 2014, 8:10 am
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