2014 Upsell Offers to Business/First (UFC/PCU) Questions/Discussion (Paid Upgrades)
Mar 2, 2014, 9:55 am
#61
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Chicago, IL
Programs: United Premier Gold 1 MM
Posts: 113
What Route: ORD-NRT
Original Fare Bucket: L
Price Offered: $699 one way
PCU/UFC? UFC
Where it was Offered: Online after check-in
Accepted? Yes!
Original Fare Bucket: L
Price Offered: $699 one way
PCU/UFC? UFC
Where it was Offered: Online after check-in
Accepted? Yes!
Mar 2, 2014, 3:50 pm
#62
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: SYR
Posts: 50
Pretty Upset about this one!
My wife (Gen Member) and I (Silver) are going DEN-MSY round trip. Different flights outbound. Her ticket was $35 less, and we were both offered upgrades there. Mine was $133, hers was $167. Both accepted, so now we've essentially paid the same fair.
On the return now, we are both H class on the same flight, again my ticket was more and I have Silver, offered $221 upgrade, she was offered $68 (less than Y+!).
I heard about Elites being asked to pay more for upgrades than general members shortly after the merger, but I thought I read a press release saying that they had fixed that issue, but apparently they are still doing it!
My wife (Gen Member) and I (Silver) are going DEN-MSY round trip. Different flights outbound. Her ticket was $35 less, and we were both offered upgrades there. Mine was $133, hers was $167. Both accepted, so now we've essentially paid the same fair.
On the return now, we are both H class on the same flight, again my ticket was more and I have Silver, offered $221 upgrade, she was offered $68 (less than Y+!).
I heard about Elites being asked to pay more for upgrades than general members shortly after the merger, but I thought I read a press release saying that they had fixed that issue, but apparently they are still doing it!
Mar 2, 2014, 4:20 pm
#63
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Pretty Upset about this one!
My wife (Gen Member) and I (Silver) are going DEN-MSY round trip. Different flights outbound. Her ticket was $35 less, and we were both offered upgrades there. Mine was $133, hers was $167. Both accepted, so now we've essentially paid the same fair.
On the return now, we are both H class on the same flight, again my ticket was more and I have Silver, offered $221 upgrade, she was offered $68 (less than Y+!).
I heard about Elites being asked to pay more for upgrades than general members shortly after the merger, but I thought I read a press release saying that they had fixed that issue, but apparently they are still doing it!
My wife (Gen Member) and I (Silver) are going DEN-MSY round trip. Different flights outbound. Her ticket was $35 less, and we were both offered upgrades there. Mine was $133, hers was $167. Both accepted, so now we've essentially paid the same fair.
On the return now, we are both H class on the same flight, again my ticket was more and I have Silver, offered $221 upgrade, she was offered $68 (less than Y+!).
I heard about Elites being asked to pay more for upgrades than general members shortly after the merger, but I thought I read a press release saying that they had fixed that issue, but apparently they are still doing it!
Mar 2, 2014, 4:21 pm
#64
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: ORD, DXB, ODS, SIN, BUR
Programs: UA1KMM, Marriott Platinum, Hilton Diamond, EY Gold, QR Gold
Posts: 302
What Route: ORD-FRA
Original Fare: C
Price Offerd: $599 one way
PCU/UFC UFC
Offered: not online check in, but when reprinted boarding pass at airport
Accepted: Yes, had in my travel budget and was first leg on 24 hours journey
I was wait listed with my GPU and number 3 with two seats remaining. Did a quick check on travel allowance and decided to pull trigger.
Original Fare: C
Price Offerd: $599 one way
PCU/UFC UFC
Offered: not online check in, but when reprinted boarding pass at airport
Accepted: Yes, had in my travel budget and was first leg on 24 hours journey
I was wait listed with my GPU and number 3 with two seats remaining. Did a quick check on travel allowance and decided to pull trigger.
Mar 2, 2014, 4:39 pm
#65
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Location: PHX
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Pretty Upset about this one!
My wife (Gen Member) and I (Silver) are going DEN-MSY round trip. Different flights outbound. Her ticket was $35 less, and we were both offered upgrades there. Mine was $133, hers was $167. Both accepted, so now we've essentially paid the same fair.
On the return now, we are both H class on the same flight, again my ticket was more and I have Silver, offered $221 upgrade, she was offered $68 (less than Y+!).
I heard about Elites being asked to pay more for upgrades than general members shortly after the merger, but I thought I read a press release saying that they had fixed that issue, but apparently they are still doing it!
My wife (Gen Member) and I (Silver) are going DEN-MSY round trip. Different flights outbound. Her ticket was $35 less, and we were both offered upgrades there. Mine was $133, hers was $167. Both accepted, so now we've essentially paid the same fair.
On the return now, we are both H class on the same flight, again my ticket was more and I have Silver, offered $221 upgrade, she was offered $68 (less than Y+!).
I heard about Elites being asked to pay more for upgrades than general members shortly after the merger, but I thought I read a press release saying that they had fixed that issue, but apparently they are still doing it!
What Route: ORD-FRA
Original Fare: C
Price Offerd: $599 one way
PCU/UFC UFC
Offered: not online check in, but when reprinted boarding pass at airport
Accepted: Yes, had in my travel budget and was first leg on 24 hours journey
I was wait listed with my GPU and number 3 with two seats remaining. Did a quick check on travel allowance and decided to pull trigger.
Original Fare: C
Price Offerd: $599 one way
PCU/UFC UFC
Offered: not online check in, but when reprinted boarding pass at airport
Accepted: Yes, had in my travel budget and was first leg on 24 hours journey
I was wait listed with my GPU and number 3 with two seats remaining. Did a quick check on travel allowance and decided to pull trigger.
Mar 2, 2014, 4:43 pm
#66
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Chicago, IL
Programs: UA 1K MM, DL Diamond, NK Gold, Mariott LT Plat/Titanium, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Gold
Posts: 925
What Route: EWR-BCN
Original Fare: H
Price Offered: $689 one way
PCU/UFC UFC
Offered: At online check in. Nothing was offered prior to this point. It showed Full.
Accepted: Yes. Had a GPU waitlisted and was not sure it would clear.
Original Fare: H
Price Offered: $689 one way
PCU/UFC UFC
Offered: At online check in. Nothing was offered prior to this point. It showed Full.
Accepted: Yes. Had a GPU waitlisted and was not sure it would clear.
Mar 2, 2014, 4:50 pm
#67
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: UA Plat 1.99MM, Hyatt Discoverist, Marriott Plat/LT Gold, Hilton Silver, IHG Plat
Posts: 66,764
Pretty Upset about this one!
My wife (Gen Member) and I (Silver) are going DEN-MSY round trip. Different flights outbound. Her ticket was $35 less, and we were both offered upgrades there. Mine was $133, hers was $167. Both accepted, so now we've essentially paid the same fair.
On the return now, we are both H class on the same flight, again my ticket was more and I have Silver, offered $221 upgrade, she was offered $68 (less than Y+!).
I heard about Elites being asked to pay more for upgrades than general members shortly after the merger, but I thought I read a press release saying that they had fixed that issue, but apparently they are still doing it!
My wife (Gen Member) and I (Silver) are going DEN-MSY round trip. Different flights outbound. Her ticket was $35 less, and we were both offered upgrades there. Mine was $133, hers was $167. Both accepted, so now we've essentially paid the same fair.
On the return now, we are both H class on the same flight, again my ticket was more and I have Silver, offered $221 upgrade, she was offered $68 (less than Y+!).
I heard about Elites being asked to pay more for upgrades than general members shortly after the merger, but I thought I read a press release saying that they had fixed that issue, but apparently they are still doing it!
Appears +1 may have been offer a Q-UP fare and yours was ???H-UP looking at today's fare filings
Note the cheaper V-UP fare.
[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.3/Diamond - Fares/PSH/RU]
Code:
DEN Denver Intl CO US [KDEN] MSY New Orleans Louis Armstrong Intl LA US [KMSY] O/W 03 Mar 2014 | Economy-Low Carrier From To Fare Cur AdvanceP Min Max Fare Basis | Travel Period --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- --- -------------------------- ... (lower fares deleted) UA DEN MSY 272 USD 7 Days VA7KN UA DEN MSY 353 USD 14 Days V2UP14N3 UA DEN MSY 379 USD *** HA0KN UA DEN MSY 400 USD *** UA0FY UA DEN MSY 446 USD 7 Days Q2UP7Y3 UA DEN MSY 532 USD *** EA0FY UA DEN MSY 544 USD *** H2UPY3 UA DEN MSY 652 USD *** MA0FY UA DEN MSY 752 USD *** BA0FY UA DEN MSY 1015 USD *** YUA
Mar 2, 2014, 6:30 pm
#68
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: SYR
Posts: 50
Interesting case (the return trip), not sure how you both had the same fare class but different prices (appears to be only 1 H fare filing presently).
Appears +1 may have been offer a Q-UP fare and yours was ???H-UP looking at today's fare filings
Note the cheaper V-UP fare.
[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.3/Diamond - Fares/PSH/RU]
Appears +1 may have been offer a Q-UP fare and yours was ???H-UP looking at today's fare filings
Note the cheaper V-UP fare.
[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.3/Diamond - Fares/PSH/RU]
Code:
DEN Denver Intl CO US [KDEN] MSY New Orleans Louis Armstrong Intl LA US [KMSY] O/W 03 Mar 2014 | Economy-Low Carrier From To Fare Cur AdvanceP Min Max Fare Basis | Travel Period --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- --- -------------------------- ... (lower fares deleted) UA DEN MSY 272 USD 7 Days VA7KN UA DEN MSY 353 USD 14 Days V2UP14N3 UA DEN MSY 379 USD *** HA0KN UA DEN MSY 400 USD *** UA0FY UA DEN MSY 446 USD 7 Days Q2UP7Y3 UA DEN MSY 532 USD *** EA0FY UA DEN MSY 544 USD *** H2UPY3 UA DEN MSY 652 USD *** MA0FY UA DEN MSY 752 USD *** BA0FY UA DEN MSY 1015 USD *** YUA
Mar 2, 2014, 9:47 pm
#69
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: SZX/HKG/BWI
Programs: UA 1K 1.1MM, CX Diam 1.0MM, Bonvoy LT Titanium, Hertz PC, MGM Pearl
Posts: 2,637
What Route: IAH-FLL
Original Fare: S
Price Offered: $289
PCU/UFC PCU
Offered: At booking
Accepted: Nope
Original Fare: S
Price Offered: $289
PCU/UFC PCU
Offered: At booking
Accepted: Nope
Mar 3, 2014, 12:16 am
#70
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: MCI
Programs: UA Silver finally, DL GM until next year, Marriott Gold
Posts: 193
What Route: SFO-ICN
Original Fare Bucket: P
Price Offered: $989
PCU/UFC? UFC
Where it was Offered: OLCI
Accepted? Nope.
This was first offered when I was using my ipad, but I did not complete check-in. Later, I tried OLCI from my laptop, and the offer was "Treat yourself to United Global First from $4,709 per person."
At that price, I was actually wondering if I would be treating others as well to the remaining 5 unsold F seats! Definitely declined. I suspect that at least 4 of the 5 seats went to non-revs.
Original Fare Bucket: P
Price Offered: $989
PCU/UFC? UFC
Where it was Offered: OLCI
Accepted? Nope.
This was first offered when I was using my ipad, but I did not complete check-in. Later, I tried OLCI from my laptop, and the offer was "Treat yourself to United Global First from $4,709 per person."
At that price, I was actually wondering if I would be treating others as well to the remaining 5 unsold F seats! Definitely declined. I suspect that at least 4 of the 5 seats went to non-revs.
As to the seats going to non-revs, they SHOULD. My opinion is that a J or F seat should not go to a passenger that does not pay for it. (revenue passenger that is)
Non-revs cost the company little, and work very hard for the privilege to travel, why should they give it away to joe schmo who paid $1000 for Y?
Mar 3, 2014, 1:56 am
#71
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Australia
Posts: 2,813
This thread depresses me so much.
I like many others have flown UA to gain some status
The opportunity to take advantage of that status is undermined by the short termism of selling upgrades for cash ahead of upgrading elites with RPUS or GPUs.
I like many others have flown UA to gain some status
The opportunity to take advantage of that status is undermined by the short termism of selling upgrades for cash ahead of upgrading elites with RPUS or GPUs.
Mar 3, 2014, 1:43 pm
#72
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Join Date: May 1998
Location: CT/NY
Programs: UA 1K/1MM, AA EXP, Marriott LT Titanium, Hyatt Globalist, IHG Plat Amb
Posts: 6,010
SFO - JFK
original fare bucket: K
price offered: $1065
UFC
Where it was offered/accepted: Check-in kiosk
Declined.
original fare bucket: K
price offered: $1065
UFC
Where it was offered/accepted: Check-in kiosk
Declined.
Mar 3, 2014, 7:44 pm
#73
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As to the seats going to non-revs, they SHOULD. My opinion is that a J or F seat should not go to a passenger that does not pay for it. (revenue passenger that is)
Non-revs cost the company little, and work very hard for the privilege to travel, why should they give it away to joe schmo who paid $1000 for Y?
Non-revs cost the company little, and work very hard for the privilege to travel, why should they give it away to joe schmo who paid $1000 for Y?
Mar 4, 2014, 9:43 pm
#74
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: MCI
Programs: UA Silver finally, DL GM until next year, Marriott Gold
Posts: 193
Your not the only who thinks this, I have posted before each profession has it's perks, and working for the airlines has them too. If someone does not purchase the upgrade that is offered then it should go to the Non_rev. Now on the flip side, I have seen and it happened to me, in where my upgrade was not given to me (domestic) but given to a Non-Rev... I did fight for that upgrade and it was given to me...
Mar 5, 2014, 1:51 am
#75
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: PHL
Programs: United 1K, American Gold, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Discoverist, Marriott Gold
Posts: 430
A follow-up to this offer. I never made my LAX-HNL upgraded flight due to a delay out of Philly. Instead, I got rebooked on a direct IAH-HNL flight. There were some serious IRROPPS on this flight, which ended up getting me an e-cert for US$250, but at least they honored my first class LAX-HNL segment and put me in FC for IAH-HNL! I was so thrilled. The rebooking kept a P bucket so I ended up getting 1.5 x the PQM and PQS
