Jan 1, 2014, 6:30 am
Last edit by: chrisl137
Please read these sources before posting in this thread: If you have calculated the PQDs for a trip at less than 80% of the total cost, you are very likely doing something wrong. Have you made sure to include the International Surcharge (YQ)? Have you read all of the materials linked above, and the frequently made points listed below?
Specific Unanswered Questions
Please limit these to specific, technical questions about the implementation of the PQD program. FMP (Frequently Made Points)
The following points have been made repeatedly in this thread (please feel free to add more concise points): Related Threads
Moderator's note:- First post from UA Insider (post 1)
- http://www.mileageplusupdates.com/faqs.html
- Additional answers from UA Insider (post 1387)
- more information about questions posed in this thread published to mileageplusupdates.com, per UA Insider
Specific Unanswered Questions
Please limit these to specific, technical questions about the implementation of the PQD program.
- Will there be a calculator that shows PQD, and will that calculator be accurate?
- What exactly will count toward PQD?
United states:
Base fare and carrier-imposed surcharges
Flights flown by United, United Express, or Copa Airlines
Flights operated by a Star Alliance® or a MileagePlus partner airline and issued on a United ticket (ticket number starting with 016)
Economy Plus purchases
The value of ETCs if used as a form of payment on the checkout page
will count towards PQD.
Thus:- The amount of co-pay when using miles to upgrade..
- The cost of PQMs/RDMs purchased when using the premier / award accelerator..
- The face value e-certs and travel vouchers.. (still uncertainty on this since prelim PQDs appeared to include)
- The cost of a paid upgrade..
- An extra seat purchase (such as for a customer of size or a musical instrument); it does not presently count toward PQM.
- Change fees.
- How will PQD be determined for UA metal segments without 016 stock ticket?
- What happens if I depart in December and return in January?
Just like PQM, PQD for the applicable part of fare for the segment is credited based on the departure date (year) of the segment flown. Segment fares are calculated using standard rules of the past. For the case cited there would be PQD credited in DEC 2013 (no value) and PQD applied to 2014 applicable to 2014 and 2015 status renewal. - How will UA evaluate the address issue for the PQD exemption?
- It is not clear how the timing of achieving the minimum PQD requirement will impact earning RPUs and GPUs. Examples:
- If someone crosses 75K PQM in say April, but doesn't hit $7500 PQD until December by which time has accrued 200K PQM, will he/she get 10 RPUs all at once? (and 10 GPUs assuming $10k PQD in December)
- Do only 1Ks/GSs earn additional RPUs by flying beyond the 100k mark?
- If a 1K crosses the 100,000 PQM mark in January 201x, the $10,000 PQD mark on December 31 201x, and ends up flying a total of 200,000 PQMs for the year 201x, how many RPUs / GPUs will be earned?
- Will Platinums earn 2 RPUs when crossing the 75k mark but none at incremental levels thereafter (e.g. a Plat who flies 100k EQMs, but does not meet the 1K spend, would *not* earn two more RPUs)?
- If someone crosses 75K PQM in say April, but doesn't hit $7500 PQD until December by which time has accrued 200K PQM, will he/she get 10 RPUs all at once? (and 10 GPUs assuming $10k PQD in December)
- How does IRROPs affect earning of PQDs?
- If one travels on a non-016 ticket originally booked non-UA/Copa metal, will one earn PQDs if rebooked onto UA?
- If one travels on a non-016 ticket originally booked on UA/Copa metal, but is rebooked onto non UA/Copa metal, will one still get credit for PQDs in these scenarios:
- The UA/Copa segment was the source of the irrops?
- The segment of another carrier causes the irrops, the carrier is a *A or UA/Copa partner?
- The segment of another carrier causes the irrops, the carrier is not a *A or UA/Copa partner?
The following points have been made repeatedly in this thread (please feel free to add more concise points):
- You might not be hitting the PQD minimums as easily as you think you are, given exceptions, taxes, and the existence of cheap fares.
- It is possible for leisure travelers and even some business travelers to average well under 10cpm. This doesn't just affect "leisure 1Ks" and people on the edge of categories.
- Presidential Plus card members (exempted from Silver/Gold/Plat PQD requirements) are most likely exempted because the FlexPQM program would complicate matters.
- Manufacturing $25,000 spend might not actually be so hard. There's a whole forum on it.
- The $25,000 spend can be done across multiple Chase MP cards, as long as the cards are tied to the same MileagePlus account.
- The exceptions don't really make sense where there is a revenue-sharing joint venture in place, such as with LH on TATL routes.
- Leaving UA for AA over objections to dollar-based status may be futile because all the majors will likely go to this model with the possible exception of the AS program which allows you to bank your DL and AA miles into one account (DL has already).
- UA is tracking spend on UA metal now.
- YQ, also known as the "international surcharge," is a carrier-imposed surcharge and is included in PQD.
- How to book 016 PQD earning tickets when no UA, UX, Copa metal flights are on itinerary.
- Do You Think UA Will Lose a Lot of Revenue With Less MR?
- Any Drawbacks from having MP account registered to foreign address?
- http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...nited-com.html
- Incorrect/Ineligible PQD/PQM/RDM Information showing on my itinerary.
Previous thread can be found here:
MileagePlus Premier Qualifying Dollar (PQD) Requirement Discussion [ARCHIVE]
iluv2fly
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MileagePlus Premier Qualifying Dollar (PQD) Requirement Discussion Thread
Jul 23, 2014, 7:50 pm
#466
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Does the co-pay fee for paid upgrade count towards PQD?
Jul 23, 2014, 8:09 pm
#467
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Jul 23, 2014, 8:11 pm
#468
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Jul 23, 2014, 9:23 pm
#469
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I bought some miles a month or two ago during the sale to top off for an international award itinerary.
Jul 27, 2014, 2:00 pm
#470
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united ffn pqd?
I saw this on the united website. http://www.united.com/web/en-US/cont.../PQD-FAQs.aspx
quote:
1-The Premier® qualifying dollars (PQD) requirement only applies to members whose primary MileagePlus account address is in the 50 United States or the District of Columbia. Those who use military or diplomatic addresses (APO, DPO or FPO) are exempt from the PQD requirement.
but then i see this
3-2014 PQD Waiver: For 2014, the PQD requirement is waived for Premier Silver, Premier Gold and Premier Platinum qualification for members (i) whose address with MileagePlus is within the 50 United States or the District of Columbia and (ii) who in 2014 have spent at least $25,000 in Net Purchases, on a MileagePlus co-branded credit card issued by Chase Bank USA, N.A. at the time in 2014 they qualify for Premier status.
how does that make sense? it contradicts itself, any help is much appreciated
quote:
1-The Premier® qualifying dollars (PQD) requirement only applies to members whose primary MileagePlus account address is in the 50 United States or the District of Columbia. Those who use military or diplomatic addresses (APO, DPO or FPO) are exempt from the PQD requirement.
but then i see this
3-2014 PQD Waiver: For 2014, the PQD requirement is waived for Premier Silver, Premier Gold and Premier Platinum qualification for members (i) whose address with MileagePlus is within the 50 United States or the District of Columbia and (ii) who in 2014 have spent at least $25,000 in Net Purchases, on a MileagePlus co-branded credit card issued by Chase Bank USA, N.A. at the time in 2014 they qualify for Premier status.
how does that make sense? it contradicts itself, any help is much appreciated
Jul 27, 2014, 2:46 pm
#471
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Since this query pertains specifically to the United Mileage Plus program, I am moving the thread so our most knowledgeable members can respond.
This thread originated in the flame-free Information Desk forum. Please reply accordingly.
Thanks
scoow, ID forum moderator
This thread originated in the flame-free Information Desk forum. Please reply accordingly.
Thanks
scoow, ID forum moderator
Last edited by scoow; Jul 27, 2014 at 2:53 pm
Jul 27, 2014, 2:56 pm
#472
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Jul 27, 2014, 2:56 pm
#473
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it makes perfect sense. If your mailing address is in the US then you must either spend PQDs per your level OR you must spend at least $25k on a UA credit card (except 1K level) in addition to the PQMs you need.
Jul 27, 2014, 2:59 pm
#474
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What contradiction???
First quote defines general population the PQD requirements apply to and second quote defines the subset of that population for whom it is waived.
First quote defines general population the PQD requirements apply to and second quote defines the subset of that population for whom it is waived.
Aug 6, 2014, 6:14 pm
#475
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 1
Quick Question - PQD & CC Spend Met
Moved back to United just recently with job and trying definitely set to requalify for gold/platinum with PQMs, but am having to book quite a few tickets on partners without the 16 United ticket - so just get miles.
Curious, if I do get the miles 50K+ and 75K+, but not the PQDs to qualify, BUT - my Credit Card Spend Waver already says "met", will I pop into status mid-year when the miles apply to my account, or is there something odd about using the CC Spend waiver where you have to wait to calendar year end?
I'm guessing/expecting it to be like normal, status when the miles apply to account if the waiver already says met (i.e. already spent well over 25K on United Chase CC).
Thanks for feedback.
Curious, if I do get the miles 50K+ and 75K+, but not the PQDs to qualify, BUT - my Credit Card Spend Waver already says "met", will I pop into status mid-year when the miles apply to my account, or is there something odd about using the CC Spend waiver where you have to wait to calendar year end?
I'm guessing/expecting it to be like normal, status when the miles apply to account if the waiver already says met (i.e. already spent well over 25K on United Chase CC).
Thanks for feedback.
Aug 6, 2014, 8:40 pm
#476
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Yes. Assume you are also waived or have met the 4 segment rule.
Aug 7, 2014, 4:52 pm
#477
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Moved back to United just recently with job and trying definitely set to requalify for gold/platinum with PQMs, but am having to book quite a few tickets on partners without the 16 United ticket - so just get miles.
Curious, if I do get the miles 50K+ and 75K+, but not the PQDs to qualify, BUT - my Credit Card Spend Waver already says "met", will I pop into status mid-year when the miles apply to my account, or is there something odd about using the CC Spend waiver where you have to wait to calendar year end?
I'm guessing/expecting it to be like normal, status when the miles apply to account if the waiver already says met (i.e. already spent well over 25K on United Chase CC).
Thanks for feedback.
Curious, if I do get the miles 50K+ and 75K+, but not the PQDs to qualify, BUT - my Credit Card Spend Waver already says "met", will I pop into status mid-year when the miles apply to my account, or is there something odd about using the CC Spend waiver where you have to wait to calendar year end?
I'm guessing/expecting it to be like normal, status when the miles apply to account if the waiver already says met (i.e. already spent well over 25K on United Chase CC).
Thanks for feedback.
Aug 7, 2014, 7:54 pm
#478
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i've got some conflicting data for my account between computer and mobile app.
on the mobile app, in my account info, the PQD shows: MET
on the computer, my acct still shows how much i have spent so far for tickets. no where does it show that i may have hit the $25K threshold. (by my calculations, using my credit card statements, i am very close)
any insight or info i am missing about this issue? TIA
on the mobile app, in my account info, the PQD shows: MET
on the computer, my acct still shows how much i have spent so far for tickets. no where does it show that i may have hit the $25K threshold. (by my calculations, using my credit card statements, i am very close)
any insight or info i am missing about this issue? TIA
Aug 8, 2014, 1:37 am
#479
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On the left hand side, just below "Lifetime Miles"
Go to "View Premier progress >"
Pop Up will show "Credit card spend PQD waiver" Met/Not Met
Aug 8, 2014, 2:02 am
#480
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The T&Cs state Does not appear to be any change in the T&Cs -- you may be over reading into a clarification on APO,DPO, FPO, ... which might look like a non-exempt address on the surface since they are domestic looking address.
I changed my home address to reflect I am now living overseas. My MP account no longer shows PQD totals.