How Long is a Free "Stop" (not a Stopover)? How Many Can You Do On An Award Flight?
#1
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How Long is a Free "Stop" (not a Stopover)? How Many Can You Do On An Award Flight?
Hi all, I'm relatively new to this forum and this is my first time planning and booking a United Award Flight.
Here's my general itinerary:
TBS*-IST-FRA-JFK-SNA
*Tbilisi, Georgia, which is considered 'Europe'
It priced successfully online at 50,000 miles as a Europe-N.America business class flight.
But here's the thing.
I'm young (20's), single, saved up a good chunk of money, have tons of free time (I've been traveling full time for almost 1 year), have 50,000 miles to burn, and want to take as many layovers as possible legally from TBS to LAX/SNA just for fun.
So.... the big question(s):
1. How many <23-hour layovers are possible on a reward flight?
2. Is there a limit of the number of segments?
3. Is there a limit to the number of MPM (maximum permitted mileage)
4. How many consecutive <23-hour layovers have you done?
5. Am I crazy? (yes)
6. Is something like this legal and possible?
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=TBS-IST...FK-YYZ-SFO-SNA
And here's the Europe-only map:
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=TBS-IST...RU-CDG-LHR-DUB
Thanks all!
Here's my general itinerary:
TBS*-IST-FRA-JFK-SNA
*Tbilisi, Georgia, which is considered 'Europe'
It priced successfully online at 50,000 miles as a Europe-N.America business class flight.
But here's the thing.
I'm young (20's), single, saved up a good chunk of money, have tons of free time (I've been traveling full time for almost 1 year), have 50,000 miles to burn, and want to take as many layovers as possible legally from TBS to LAX/SNA just for fun.
So.... the big question(s):
1. How many <23-hour layovers are possible on a reward flight?
2. Is there a limit of the number of segments?
3. Is there a limit to the number of MPM (maximum permitted mileage)
4. How many consecutive <23-hour layovers have you done?
5. Am I crazy? (yes)
6. Is something like this legal and possible?
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=TBS-IST...FK-YYZ-SFO-SNA
And here's the Europe-only map:
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=TBS-IST...RU-CDG-LHR-DUB
Thanks all!
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Hi all, I'm relatively new to this forum and this is my first time planning and booking a United Award Flight.
Here's my general itinerary:
TBS*-IST-FRA-JFK-SNA
*Tbilisi, Georgia, which is considered 'Europe'
It priced successfully online at 50,000 miles as a Europe-N.America business class flight.
But here's the thing.
I'm young (20's), single, saved up a good chunk of money, have tons of free time (I've been traveling full time for almost 1 year), have 50,000 miles to burn, and want to take as many layovers as possible legally from TBS to LAX/SNA just for fun.
So.... the big question(s):
1. How many <23-hour layovers are possible on a reward flight?
2. Is there a limit of the number of segments?
3. Is there a limit to the number of MPM (maximum permitted mileage)
4. How many consecutive <23-hour layovers have you done?
5. Am I crazy? (yes)
6. Is something like this legal and possible?
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=TBS-IST...FK-YYZ-SFO-SNA
And here's the Europe-only map:
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=TBS-IST...RU-CDG-LHR-DUB
Thanks all!
Here's my general itinerary:
TBS*-IST-FRA-JFK-SNA
*Tbilisi, Georgia, which is considered 'Europe'
It priced successfully online at 50,000 miles as a Europe-N.America business class flight.
But here's the thing.
I'm young (20's), single, saved up a good chunk of money, have tons of free time (I've been traveling full time for almost 1 year), have 50,000 miles to burn, and want to take as many layovers as possible legally from TBS to LAX/SNA just for fun.
So.... the big question(s):
1. How many <23-hour layovers are possible on a reward flight?
2. Is there a limit of the number of segments?
3. Is there a limit to the number of MPM (maximum permitted mileage)
4. How many consecutive <23-hour layovers have you done?
5. Am I crazy? (yes)
6. Is something like this legal and possible?
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=TBS-IST...FK-YYZ-SFO-SNA
And here's the Europe-only map:
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=TBS-IST...RU-CDG-LHR-DUB
Thanks all!
I think you will have difficulty booking more than four segments on the one-way award.
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Join Date: Jun 2012
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This guy did 7 cities on a European one-way award, in one of the craziest tickets I've seen. (Zagreb, Croatia to Munich, Germany, via Rome, Frankfurt, Brussels, Oslo, Amsterdam?!?!)
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=ZAG-DBV...RU-OSL-AMS-MUC
He did, however, have to book the flight over the phone with an agent, which I'm willing to do.
http://milevalue.com/how-to-see-seve...00-mile-award/
I'm willing to book via an agent, and I got tons of time to talk to an agent(s).
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=ZAG-DBV...RU-OSL-AMS-MUC
He did, however, have to book the flight over the phone with an agent, which I'm willing to do.
http://milevalue.com/how-to-see-seve...00-mile-award/
I'm willing to book via an agent, and I got tons of time to talk to an agent(s).
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You should be able to book
TBS-IST-XXX-XXX-SNA/LAX
That is likely one stop in Europe and one stop in North America. With Turkish's network, you pretty much can stop anywhere there is an onward flight to North America -- assuming availability. For example
TBS-IST-AMS-ORD-SNA
TBS-IST-MUC-SFO-SNA
TBS-IST-LIS-EWR-SNA
etc
You could also choose to do stops in North America, for example
TBS-IST-BOS-SFO-SNA
TBS-IST-XXX-XXX-SNA/LAX
That is likely one stop in Europe and one stop in North America. With Turkish's network, you pretty much can stop anywhere there is an onward flight to North America -- assuming availability. For example
TBS-IST-AMS-ORD-SNA
TBS-IST-MUC-SFO-SNA
TBS-IST-LIS-EWR-SNA
etc
You could also choose to do stops in North America, for example
TBS-IST-BOS-SFO-SNA
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This is what I'd try to do:
TBS-IST-JFK-SFO-SNA
You get TK J IST-JFK, ps lie-flat on the transcon to SFO, and one day each in NYC and SF.
Top that
TBS-IST-JFK-SFO-SNA
You get TK J IST-JFK, ps lie-flat on the transcon to SFO, and one day each in NYC and SF.
Top that
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I think you can squeeze out five segments, since this is a Europe award.
Try TBS-IST-BUD-BRU-JFK-LAX (TBS-IST-BUD on TK, BUD-BRU-JFK on SN, JFK-LAX on UA). BUD is great if you have not been there, but certainly there are many other options as well you could sub in for BUD.
I bet you will be successful.
Try TBS-IST-BUD-BRU-JFK-LAX (TBS-IST-BUD on TK, BUD-BRU-JFK on SN, JFK-LAX on UA). BUD is great if you have not been there, but certainly there are many other options as well you could sub in for BUD.
I bet you will be successful.
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Any connection can be up to 24 hours on an international itinerary.
MPM doesn't apply but there may be a maximum number of segments permitted on an award.
Most I did was 3 overnights en route from ARN-IST. Great trip.
MPM doesn't apply but there may be a maximum number of segments permitted on an award.
Most I did was 3 overnights en route from ARN-IST. Great trip.
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Originally Posted by jayu
1. How many <23-hour layovers are possible on a reward flight?
2. Is there a limit of the number of segments?
3. Is there a limit to the number of MPM (maximum permitted mileage)
4. How many consecutive <23-hour layovers have you done?
5. Am I crazy? (yes)
6. Is something like this legal and possible?
2. Is there a limit of the number of segments?
3. Is there a limit to the number of MPM (maximum permitted mileage)
4. How many consecutive <23-hour layovers have you done?
5. Am I crazy? (yes)
6. Is something like this legal and possible?
2. In theory.
3. Sometimes not.
4. Nine
5. No. You're just getting into the game and want a little more value. Crazy, outrageous, no.
6. Yes. It's been done numerous times by certain people.
^ That's a good one. I have flown 9 segs on intra-EU o/w and 11 on US-Asia o/w before, but in light of the apparent regime crackdown and the fact that - for now - some of this is still possible in spite of the new tacit dictate and preventative measures, I don't wish to be more specific here. I suggest that those who have/can do these things, also don't be too specific about methods - it doesn't take much back-end work for this capability to be eliminated and it's in our interest that the number of people perpetrating these itins remains low via natural selection.
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Before the crackdown, IIRC I went LAX-JFK/EWR-ORD-IAH-SFO-HKG-SIN-CGK-BKK-MNL-PEK or something ridiculous but it took a lot of effort to ticket and there is no way UA would do anything like that anymore.
#14
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So, I just got off a 2 hour phone call (1 hour hold, 1 hour call) and booked
TBS-IST-MAD-ZRH-LIS-VIE-JFK-SFO-SNA, all are long layovers.
The rep did indeed say that there is a "4 segment maximum", but each segment has a layover in between.
TBS-IST-MAD-ZRH-LIS-VIE-JFK-SFO-SNA, all are long layovers.
The rep did indeed say that there is a "4 segment maximum", but each segment has a layover in between.
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You should go buy a lottery ticket. Congrats.