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Old Nov 9, 13, 3:15 pm   #1
 
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United 747 Domestic Flights

Does UAL ever do any swaps for 747s between hubs?

Ever since flying as a kid it's on my bucket list but both price and time for an international trip are prohibitive.

I saw a different thread that hinted around Easter on a 5:30pm flight from ORD to SFO but didn't have any luck.

Thanks for any guidance/help!
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Old Nov 9, 13, 3:21 pm   #2
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exceptionally rare -- UA has set up SFO & ORD as the primary 747 bases and have little need to move 747s.. But occasionally you will hear a report of domestic 747 here on FT.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...-than-p-s.html

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...tic-route.html
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Old Nov 9, 13, 3:24 pm   #3
 
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Currently domestic 747 service is usually done for repositioning after unscheduled maintenance or unexpected events — for example, when SFO lost a lot of capacity after the OZ214 disaster, UA ran multiple 747s LAX-SFO with about one day's advance notice.

A few years back there was a 747 doing a regular rotation SFO-ORD // ORD-SFO, but this service is no longer a 747. (You can still usually find an internationally configured 777 on this route.)

If you suspect that there's a 747 flight in April 2014, you can rapidly check schedules using ITA Matrix and the "/aircraft t:747" parameter:



This search returns no results (there is no UA 747 currently scheduled to operate ORD-SFO or vice versa on any day in April).
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It happens a lot less often now that loads are higher. Instead of doing SFO-NRT-ORD-SFO, they'll typically do the "W" pattern -- SFO-NRT-ORD-NRT-SFO -- to get back to the 747 MOC.
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Old Nov 9, 13, 6:11 pm   #5
 
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I saw a different thread that hinted around Easter on a 5:30pm flight from ORD to SFO but didn't have any luck.
Yes, around Easter 2013, United had a 747 on the ORD-SFO route as a one-off repositioning flight. At the time, UA was temporarily shifting all of its 747 operations to SFO (except for the once-daily LAX-SYD-MEL flight) due to frequent mechanical problems with their 747 fleet. (It's far easier to keep a spare 747 on-hand and do more frequent, pro-active inspections if you have one main base rather than two.)

UA has now announced that it will resume flying 747's from ORD.

Edit: Relevant start of another FT thread
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Old Nov 9, 13, 6:40 pm   #6
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UA has now announced that it will resume flying 747's from ORD.[/url]
Didn't see the thread, but when I was searching for flights to Europe for Oct 2014 saw a 747 flying from Chicago to Europe. Sorry, forgot which destination. Of course that far out, who knows with all the changes UA si making in their schedules / equipment
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Old Nov 9, 13, 6:42 pm   #7
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Didn't see the thread, but when I was searching for flights to Europe for Oct 2014 saw a 747 flying from Chicago to Europe. Sorry, forgot which destination. Of course that far out, who knows with all the changes UA si making in their schedules / equipment
ORD-FRA for sure
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747 Alert

SFO-EWR UA1751 Noon 1/6. Returning as 1752 on 1/7 at 11 AM.
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SFO-EWR UA1751 Noon 1/6. Returning as 1752 on 1/7 at 11 AM.
Woahhhhhh
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Old Jan 5, 14, 3:09 pm   #10
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SFO-EWR UA1751 Noon 1/6. Returning as 1752 on 1/7 at 11 AM.
Methinks it's to get as many stranded pax out as they can (similar what UA used to do in the old shuttle daze when 3 flights were cancelled so they would change the 4th flight to a '47 and put everyone that they could on that flight).
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Methinks it's to get as many stranded pax out as they can (similar what UA used to do in the old shuttle daze when 3 flights were cancelled so they would change the 4th flight to a '47 and put everyone that they could on that flight).
Most likely. When was the last time EWR saw UA 747 for revenue?

You can get a EWR to SFO ticket for $1500. F and J for 400 more.

Boarding process will be interesting to watch.
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completely empty on the SFO-EWR segment so far.
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completely empty on the SFO-EWR segment so far.
Perhaps because you'd either have to seriously pay up, or get on it via IRROPs. No award seats either.
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This has to be due to Irops. Remember a year or two ago they ran a 777 JFK-ORD
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Old Jan 5, 14, 5:32 pm   #15
 
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Methinks it's to get as many stranded pax out as they can (similar what UA used to do in the old shuttle daze when 3 flights were cancelled so they would change the 4th flight to a '47 and put everyone that they could on that flight).
Ahhh, the good 'ol days.... I remember that well.
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