United Gets SFO ↔ Tokyo Haneda Authority - Service starts 26 Oct. 2014.
Oct 23, 2013, 7:01 pm
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The one hitch with SFO-HND-TSA is that it'd probably take away seats from SFO-TPE, which they're still trying to launch. Given how many times they've delayed it to use its aircraft on other routes, they don't seem to think much of the route or it could be marginally profitable as is.
Oct 23, 2013, 9:28 pm
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If they could pull it off, UA might be better off with SFO-HND-TSA and just give up relaunching SFO-TPE. I agree with Neil35 on this aspect: whatever is left of UA's TPE customer base (including me) has mostly found their ways elsewhere. Besides, SFO-TPE is already served pretty well by *A, via BR.
I'm one of those that prefer SFO-TPE since I'm connecting to HSR to the South.
Oct 23, 2013, 11:47 pm
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TSA is two Metro trains and two extra stops on the HSR, so it's quite a ways farther than TPE. The bus isn't particularly great, especially for foreigners, but hopefully it'll improve if they ever finish the MRT line between TPE and Taoyuen station.
Oct 24, 2013, 10:18 pm
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If they could pull it off, UA might be better off with SFO-HND-TSA and just give up relaunching SFO-TPE. I agree with Neil35 on this aspect: whatever is left of UA's TPE customer base (including me) has mostly found their ways elsewhere. Besides, SFO-TPE is already served pretty well by *A, via BR.
Oct 24, 2013, 10:58 pm
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That will be in the very long term if it happens at all. The next allocation will only involve four new slot pairs for US carriers. It is the only allocation planned for the foreseeable future and there is really no more room for expansion unless they build even more international terminal space (not entirely out of the question but not likely anytime soon)
Dec 1, 2013, 9:49 pm
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http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...authority.html
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http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...-hnd-slot.html
Dec 2, 2013, 10:34 am
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I understand the search function isn't too great but "sfo"+"HND"+"AA" quickly yields in the first 5 choices
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...authority.html
and
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...-hnd-slot.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...authority.html
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http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...-hnd-slot.html
I read through a few of the current briefs for this docket and I only see
UA's SFO-HND
and
HA's KOA-HND.
Is my reading of the docket correct?
If that's true, shouldn't UA's chance be pretty good?
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Jan 4, 2014, 9:49 pm
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There are quite a few flights into HND nowadays from other Asian destinations. So, I guess UA can pick up the connecting passengers. The down side is with a late departure, there might not be good connection out of SFO to the east coast until the redeye. I think the NH HND flight get into LAX at 6 PM. SFO can be a little earlier but still can't get too far beyond.
If UA gets it and does a late departure (on both ends), it actually opens up a nice alternate scheduling for many. SFO-HND can connect to BKK and SIN redeyes, I think. TSA, GMP and SHA are too close to have late night departures out of HND.
If UA gets it and does a late departure (on both ends), it actually opens up a nice alternate scheduling for many. SFO-HND can connect to BKK and SIN redeyes, I think. TSA, GMP and SHA are too close to have late night departures out of HND.
Jan 4, 2014, 10:24 pm
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Huh ??, TSA is way closer to town than TPE is. We got to TSA airport in about 10 min, it's a looooong way out to TPE
