Last edit by: Bitterroot
Updates to Wiki as of 20 January 2014
Planned changes in aircraft by date and route:
SFO -- SYD: first 772 departs SFO 27 March; turns to 840 at SYD on 29 March
LAX -- SYD: first 772 departs LAX 29 March; turn off 840-29th.
NRT -- ORD: First 744 departs NRT 27 March (aircraft turn at ORD to PVG and FRA in succession the day following arrival from NRT)
ORD -- NRT: First 744 departs ORD 31 March
ORD -- PVG: First 744 departs ORD 28 March
PVG -- ORD: First 744 departs PVG 29 March
ORD -- FRA: First 744 departs ORD 29 March
FRA -- ORD: First 744 departs FRA 30 March
NRT -- SFO: 852 to operate with 772 27 March through 31 March inclusive (772 coming out of rotation)
Or, you can just go look at the good work here (note that info posted above differs from AIRLINEROUTE info dated 4 January 2014 and before):
http://airlineroute.net/2013/08/17/ua-s14update1/
Or, straight to the source if you want to do your own research:
http://www.oag.com/Global
Planned changes in aircraft by date and route:
SFO -- SYD: first 772 departs SFO 27 March; turns to 840 at SYD on 29 March
LAX -- SYD: first 772 departs LAX 29 March; turn off 840-29th.
NRT -- ORD: First 744 departs NRT 27 March (aircraft turn at ORD to PVG and FRA in succession the day following arrival from NRT)
ORD -- NRT: First 744 departs ORD 31 March
ORD -- PVG: First 744 departs ORD 28 March
PVG -- ORD: First 744 departs PVG 29 March
ORD -- FRA: First 744 departs ORD 29 March
FRA -- ORD: First 744 departs FRA 30 March
NRT -- SFO: 852 to operate with 772 27 March through 31 March inclusive (772 coming out of rotation)
Or, you can just go look at the good work here (note that info posted above differs from AIRLINEROUTE info dated 4 January 2014 and before):
http://airlineroute.net/2013/08/17/ua-s14update1/
Or, straight to the source if you want to do your own research:
http://www.oag.com/Global
[Confirmed] SYD going UA 3 Cabin 777 in 2014 [and other 747 route changes]
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Likewise they remain the only *A carrier offering direct service US - Australia so this also allows them to reduce capacity (267 seats on pmCO 772 vs. 374 on the 744 I believe)
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I agree the flying experience will be better, but they will be paying more for the better experience. It makes me think would the vast majority of the passengers prefer to save a couple hundred and fly on a old ratty 744 with no IFE or pay more to fly on a 777?
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Obviously the vast majority of passengers can't "easily upgrade". You can see that just by counting the seats in each class.
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If IFE was that darn important to them, they would already be flying QF, DL or Virgin.
Assuming this rumor does come to pass, would there any chance UA would re-configure the 777 with 10 across in Y in order to bump up the capacity? Others are have done or are doing this, including AA, AF, AC and EK.
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wow, huge equipment upgrade on this route, I might now even consider flying UA
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Considering there is an entire thread (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...2013-a-20.html) on cancellations on this route - most of them equipment related - this would seem to be a reasonable move. Has anyone independently confirmed this is actually happening?
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Also if we cared about quality of service much the same
I give UA $20k per year flying out of sydney because they are the only airline that can get me easily to IAD & RIC & RDM & RSW
Screw with my comfort and I will give up my status and just fly cheapest carrier from now on... which would probobly end up being AirNZ where you still get real booze in Y for free....
the BF seats are IMHO far WORSE on the CO777 compared to the upper deck on the 747 (I've flown both many times)
The lack of F is also anoying as whenever work books me into
The Y seats on the 747 are also IMHO better for my body shape/size (23k is always a win)
RE IFE....
If you dont already own an IPAD go buy a refurb 2nd gen 64gb and forget about ever thinking about IFE again (unless on direct tv equiped plane)
Also.... AFAIK none of the CO777's have wifi?
most of the 747's running the SYD route have had wifi for ages now and its worth $$$ to me to not be 1000emails behind when I get off the plane
Personally I'm at 11/12 for syd->lax/sfo on GPU's and 10/10 on Miles for the last 3 years
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They fly 2x747 SFO-LHR and there's no other *A airline on the route - competing though with BA and Virgin who both fly ancient 747s, but with modern interiors.