Help your United agents who help you (Outsourcing)
Jul 11, 2013, 5:31 pm
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Help your United agents who help you (Outsourcing)
Ladies, and Gentleman. We need your help. United Airlines management is now in the process of laying off United Airlines workers, and plan to outsource to the cheapest bidder. These are our people. They have started with 6 stations, but I am sure they have plans for more. What is to stop them from outsourcing every CSR and Ramp worker? They need to be stopped. Please start by joining our group for more information on how to help. You don't need to be retired, or active, or even work for United. You just need to want to help our workers keep their jobs. It is the right thing to do. Please share with your friends.
http://rochester.ynn.com/content/top...union-workers/
https://www.change.org/petitions/ual...ited-employees
http://rochester.ynn.com/content/top...union-workers/
https://www.change.org/petitions/ual...ited-employees
Last edited by cdayind; Jul 11, 2013 at 5:57 pm
Jul 11, 2013, 6:05 pm
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Some prior discussion about UA outsourcing initiatives at http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...-goodluck.html
Jul 11, 2013, 6:05 pm
#3
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As an entrepreneur, I certainly wouldn't count myself among the supporters of unions in general, but this move by UA seems like a low blow to the employees involved. Not to mention the likely negative impact on customers!
Jul 11, 2013, 6:12 pm
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Ladies, and Gentleman. We need your help. United Airlines management is now in the process of laying off United Airlines workers, and plan to outsource to the cheapest bidder. These are our people. They have started with 6 stations, but I am sure they have plans for more. What is to stop them from outsourcing every CSR and Ramp worker? They need to be stopped. Please start by joining our group for more information on how to help. You don't need to be retired, or active, or even work for United. You just need to want to help our workers keep their jobs. It is the right thing to do. Please share with your friends.
http://rochester.ynn.com/content/top...union-workers/
https://www.change.org/petitions/ual...ited-employees
http://rochester.ynn.com/content/top...union-workers/
https://www.change.org/petitions/ual...ited-employees
As an aside, if "co-workers" are being fired to their jobs can be outsourced to the lowest bidder, then are they really "co-workers"?
Jul 11, 2013, 6:41 pm
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There have been furloughs and job cuts on both sides -- most notably the legacy Continental Cargo staff.
Jul 11, 2013, 6:41 pm
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And if anyone says they are "surprised that good old Jeff" would do this ( and this is just the beginning) then they live in a hole in the earth. He has gotten rid of many Elites, now employees and there is a lot more to come for both groups.
Jul 11, 2013, 6:46 pm
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I just noticed that OP is from Ohio, so I'm guessing (s)he works at CVG, since that's the one listed in the IAM letter.
CVG was served by PMUA from ORD, DEN, and IAD. PMCO served it EWR and IAH.
It's hard to call this a "PMUA station."
CVG was served by PMUA from ORD, DEN, and IAD. PMCO served it EWR and IAH.
It's hard to call this a "PMUA station."
Jul 11, 2013, 6:52 pm
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We are all the same, I would be just as upset if these were PM-CO stations! CO cargo was a horrible thing, I don't want anyone to go through that, I have done it once and I wasn't sure i could take it. Now its PM-UA airports. Yes those stations has CO service but they were already operated by a outside vendor they were not mainline CO agents.
Jul 11, 2013, 6:54 pm
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We are all the same, I would be just as upset if these were PM-CO stations! CO cargo was a horrible thing, I don't want anyone to go through that, I have done it once and I wasn't sure i could take it. Now its PM-UA airports. Yes those stations has CO service but they were already operated by a outside vendor they were not mainline CO agents.
Jul 11, 2013, 6:56 pm
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Some prior discussion about UA outsourcing initiatives at http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...-goodluck.html
Sorry to hear about this. It's the way the industry is trending these days.
So glad I'm Mainline in a growing company now!
Jul 11, 2013, 7:08 pm
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Jul 11, 2013, 7:25 pm
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I have very mixed feelings. I'd be curious though from a customer standpoint, can you outline the negative impacts? It's not clear to me...will it be like calling the ICC when walking up to the counter? Or what will the implications be?
I assume Jeffy's just going the cheapest route. If outsourced is cheaper, it seems to make sense he'd pick that over what he has in place. This surely can't be a surprise to anyone.
I assume Jeffy's just going the cheapest route. If outsourced is cheaper, it seems to make sense he'd pick that over what he has in place. This surely can't be a surprise to anyone.