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Can you have a single PNR where one passenger is a cash/revenue ticket and the other passenger is an award ticket?
No -- all passengers on a PNR must be of the same type ( cash or award) -- they must be the same fare class, same cabin, same routing, ....this is standard for all airlines. The airline industry-wide global distribution system (GDS) imposes this "commonality" restriction.
Can you have a single PNR where one direction is a cash/revenue ticket and the other direction is an award ticket?
No, while probably not a GDS limitation, most airlines do not allow this as the ticket rules for cash tickets and award tickets are very different.
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No -- all passengers on a PNR must be of the same type ( cash or award) -- they must be the same fare class, same cabin, same routing, ....this is standard for all airlines. The airline industry-wide global distribution system (GDS) imposes this "commonality" restriction.
Can you have a single PNR where one direction is a cash/revenue ticket and the other direction is an award ticket?
No, while probably not a GDS limitation, most airlines do not allow this as the ticket rules for cash tickets and award tickets are very different.
Related threads
Combine reservations into one PNR? Can not be done.
Premier benefits for companions on separate tickets, "off-pnr" [Consoldiated]
Economy Plus for Companions if on separate PNR [Consolidated]
Is it possible to book award and revenue (cash) tickets on the same PNR? No.
#61
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This is absolutely, positively.... correct. I travel 5-10 times/year with someone using an award ticket (from my miles) while I'm on a paid ticket. So far, no issues sitting together, you just have to call and let them know what's going on.
But if things go bad, the two reservations will be treated separately. Just cross your fingers.
But if things go bad, the two reservations will be treated separately. Just cross your fingers.
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How to buy 1 ticket with cash and 1 with miles on same reservation?
Being on the same pnr does not mean you'll be seated together in event of a schedule change. Heck, it doesn't mean you'll be seated together with no schedule change. Just read the boards for 5 mins. That happened to me. We were all on the same pnr and one ended up in row 35 while we were in 21. Par for the course
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I also do the same thing several times a year and have had pretty good results even during irrops. Basically like the seating deal if you encounter irrops just give them a call and they usually have no problem accommodating your needs. I've even had them protect both of us on another flight in case the one they re-booked us on had issues.
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Of course, until April, whomever you got an award ticket for also inherited your status. Which brings up an interesting point- during irrops, did both automated systems and human CSRs treat such passengers as 1Ks (in your case, Plats in mine)? Obviously that won't be happening down the road. Not without deliberately requesting such treatment anyway.
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But it was the norm prior to CO coming in. One of the few changes we liked. And now it's gone.
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Let's say, for example, I'm returning from NYC with GF post April 15, but we're on separate PNRs because we flew in separately or bought our tickets at different times. I might get upgraded off the waitlist; she won't even be in the game as a GM.
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Amen. Posters here seem to think "1k kid coming home for spring break." reality is wife traveling with me.
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One of the reasons I direct so much of my business flying to UA is that it's been so nice for leisure when I take companions with me on my miles.
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We all like to say, heh I throw my weight around and get you the free bags and free E+ seats even though I not flying with you. You get great awe from family and friends but it is an added cost/loss revenue for elites. I prefer instead of having my benefits diluted to so many non-elites that what benefits left are of more direct benefit to me when I am traveling( or those traveling with me vs some elite's 4th cousin flying seperately).
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Hi guys, thanks for all the replies.
My motivation is as follows:
1) I earn miles for the flight on my ticket
2) Wife flies free with my award miles
3) I'm able to use my status to move us both for free into Economy Plus
4) Ideally kept together in case of rebooks, etc
My motivation is as follows:
1) I earn miles for the flight on my ticket
2) Wife flies free with my award miles
3) I'm able to use my status to move us both for free into Economy Plus
4) Ideally kept together in case of rebooks, etc
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We all like to say, heh I throw my weight around and get you the free bags and free E+ seats even though I not flying with you. You get great awe from family and friends but it is an added cost/loss revenue for elites. I prefer instead of having my benefits diluted to so many non-elites that what benefits left are of more direct benefit to me when I am traveling( or those traveling with me vs some elite's 4th cousin flying seperately).
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I think the counter-argument is hey, they're my miles. If I use them on tickets for myself I will get all the 1K benefits when I travel. Why should those benefits be lost just because I use them for a family member or friend instead of for myself? It's zero-sum to UA. .....
I think the counter-argument is hey, they're my miles. If I use them on tickets for myself I will get all the 1K benefits when I travel. Why should those benefits be lost just because I use them for a family member or friend instead of for myself? It's zero-sum to UA. .....
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Unfortunately, there's no way to combine into one PNR.
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(1) It's fairly easy on domestic routes on United metal.
(2) For international routes, I would like to hear advice myself. In my experience, it gets really difficult especially when *A partners start getting involved. For international routes, in my experience, the award inventory goes nuts, in a bad way. It seems that international awards seem available only for routings that are crazy expensive to buy with cash, and it gets far worse for one-way itineraries. Is there a better strategy? It seemed to be a lot easier years ago. In 2008, I bought an open-jaw UA ticket SFO-TPE & PEK-SFO, while getting an award for an identical itinerary, and getting a second award that went CLE-IAD-SFO-TPE & PEK-ORD-CLE. It was nice to get the three of us together for SFO-TPE. This year, I bought SFO-TPE-KUL through BR, and got an award on those same flights through UA. It wasn't easy due to award availability.
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It's definitely a pain internationally - can be quite the challenge to find saver availability on an itinerary that doesn't price out as a fortune when paying cash.
Sometimes I just give up and book two separate tickets that should hopefully arrive about the same time.
Bit me in the ... on a one-day Lufthansa strike in September.
Sometimes I just give up and book two separate tickets that should hopefully arrive about the same time.
Bit me in the ... on a one-day Lufthansa strike in September.