Why Did My CPU (Upgrade) Not Clear?
Mar 4, 2015, 12:38 pm
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I use the seat map for E+ as a sort of guide for how many Premiers are likely on the flight. If the E+ seat map is mostly full, I assume there are a significant number of Premiers, so I agree with mgcsinc. Likely more 1Ks and Plats who would get CPUs before a Gold. But good luck AppleApe.
SkiCO, have you seen a transcript from the J.P. Morgan conference yesterday so you could quote Rainey's remarks? I have been googling for quotes from him and have not found anything.
“Our goal is to increase that (Ancilliary Rev) by $200 million in 2015” said John Rainey CFO yesterday. United simply needs to juice profits so they are selling those upgrades at checkin. Remember that when thinking about pursuing 1K or ever thinking Gold status will get you anywhere. 
Also Rainey was the same guy who said United elites were over-entitled. I've taken my loyalty elsewhere and been rewarded. Vote with your wallet and not by buying the upgrade; fly a carrier whose FF program and miles reward your spend.
Also Rainey was the same guy who said United elites were over-entitled. I've taken my loyalty elsewhere and been rewarded. Vote with your wallet and not by buying the upgrade; fly a carrier whose FF program and miles reward your spend.
Mar 4, 2015, 2:02 pm
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I'm currently sitting in the AC waiting for my delayed AA flight(almost 3 hours), so I have a lot of time on my hands. 
I just called UA again and asked about the upgrade. I asked if I can use my UA miles to upgrade that flight. The agent checked and told me YES. Do mileage upgrade and CPU come from different fare buckets?
I just called UA again and asked about the upgrade. I asked if I can use my UA miles to upgrade that flight. The agent checked and told me YES. Do mileage upgrade and CPU come from different fare buckets?
Mar 4, 2015, 2:20 pm
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The CPU upgrade language says "as early as" 36 hours. There's a good chance quite a few ahead of you haven't been upgraded yet. I'm pretty sure you will be in a coach seat.
I called UA a minute ago and was told that I can buy all those 11 seats if I wanted to, since they are all available for sale....
Mar 4, 2015, 2:27 pm
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I'm currently sitting in the AC waiting for my delayed AA flight(almost 3 hours), so I have a lot of time on my hands.
I just called UA again and asked about the upgrade. I asked if I can use my UA miles to upgrade that flight. The agent checked and told me YES. Do mileage upgrade and CPU come from different fare buckets?
I just called UA again and asked about the upgrade. I asked if I can use my UA miles to upgrade that flight. The agent checked and told me YES. Do mileage upgrade and CPU come from different fare buckets?
There is lots of very helpful and informative information there to help you learn about all the various aspects of upgrades.
Good luck with your CPU, but given the overall description of your situation it sounds like your chances are slim for a CPU.
Language is "as early as 48 hours" for a Gold member.
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Mar 5, 2015, 8:13 am
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It is now within the 24-hour window. Just done OLCI... I'm not upgraded yet, but my name is the *only* name on the upgrade standby list. To the left of that, the same 3 people who were upgraded days ago are still there. (one of the names is PAL, S... not Sarah Palin, I hope?
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Mar 5, 2015, 9:02 am
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I'm confused.(still)
It is now within the 24-hour window. Just done OLCI... I'm not upgraded yet, but my name is the *only* name on the upgrade standby list. To the left of that, the same 3 people who were upgraded days ago are still there. (one of the names is PAL, S... not Sarah Palin, I hope? )
It is now within the 24-hour window. Just done OLCI... I'm not upgraded yet, but my name is the *only* name on the upgrade standby list. To the left of that, the same 3 people who were upgraded days ago are still there. (one of the names is PAL, S... not Sarah Palin, I hope?
)(1) You cannot go by seat map to know how many empty seats there are in First.
(2) Seats are controlled by revenue management. They decide if and when to release seats for CPU. They can decide to wait until the last minute for sales at the airport.
(3) The people on the upgrade standby list are those who have checked in. That changes as persons check in. The computer runs in the background to do "sweeps" that upgrade persons to available First Class seats. The list you see does not include all upgradeable persons for the flight.
(4) I repeat my earlier suggestion to read the several threads on CPUs found in the MP Master WIKI in the "sticky" post at the beginning of the threads in the MP forum.
(5). What is your itinerary?
Mar 5, 2015, 9:07 am
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Same here. I can't remember the last time I got one at T-96. My experience has been seeing plenty of open F seats at t-96 and then watching them dwindle to Zero by boarding. I usually sit at #1-5 on the list and watch the seats evaporate. I guess there are a ton of people taking them up on the buy-up offers.
Mar 5, 2015, 9:19 am
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hans, I have several CPUs clear at 96 hours, and many at 72 hrs. It depends on many factors...routes, time of day, day of week, SDCs, IRROPS, elite-heavy cities...I am sorry you have had poor experiences with CPUs.
Mar 5, 2015, 9:27 am
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I'm confused.(still)
It is now within the 24-hour window. Just done OLCI... I'm not upgraded yet, but my name is the *only* name on the upgrade standby list. To the left of that, the same 3 people who were upgraded days ago are still there. (one of the names is PAL, S... not Sarah Palin, I hope? )
It is now within the 24-hour window. Just done OLCI... I'm not upgraded yet, but my name is the *only* name on the upgrade standby list. To the left of that, the same 3 people who were upgraded days ago are still there. (one of the names is PAL, S... not Sarah Palin, I hope?
)mobile.united.com -- enter your flight information and check status. on the upgrades tab you can see the number of F seats booked versus available.
as people check in, they will begin to show up on the list you are currently on. your position will continue to drop. hopefully it stays above n+1, where n is the number of seats available. good luck.
Mar 5, 2015, 9:35 am
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319/320 with 8/12 F is no go for me. I try to book on sUA 757 with 24 F seats.
Mar 5, 2015, 11:58 am
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I'm 1 for 16 so far this year.
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Mar 5, 2015, 12:38 pm
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The biggest factor for me is I'm typically flying hub to hub (based in DEN). Can't do much about that but.....those upgrades used to clear routinely and now only rarely. Capacity also has changed; I used to get 777s and then 757s and now its Airbii.
I'm 1 for 16 so far this year.
I'm 1 for 16 so far this year.
Mar 5, 2015, 7:04 pm
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AS EARLY AS 48 hours means *maybe* at 48 hours, maybe at 48 minutes, maybe never. CPUs are a perk, they are not guaranteed, and have nothing to do with the number of seats showing in the seat map.
mobile.united.com -- enter your flight information and check status. on the upgrades tab you can see the number of F seats booked versus available.
as people check in, they will begin to show up on the list you are currently on. your position will continue to drop. hopefully it stays above n+1, where n is the number of seats available. good luck.
mobile.united.com -- enter your flight information and check status. on the upgrades tab you can see the number of F seats booked versus available.
as people check in, they will begin to show up on the list you are currently on. your position will continue to drop. hopefully it stays above n+1, where n is the number of seats available. good luck.
to Trans-Con nonstop flight), so I just saw my name
on the standby list with 12 hours to go: #38
(yay! at least it's not completely hopeless.. there is
always a chance that the 37 people ahead of me
will cancel their travel plans tomorrow... right....
that's better odds than a female Republican or
Democrat becoming the POTUS in the next 30 years)