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Consolidated Global Premier Upgrade (GPU) Questions Thread [Archive]

Old Jun 30, 2013, 7:39 am
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General PlusPoints (was GPU) earning & usage questions [Consolidated]

Note: the term journey is used here to denote travel between a pair of cities, with one or more layovers, and all segments of the journey are part of the same ticket, confirmation number, and record locator. A one way ticket has one journey. A round trip has two journeys. A multicity ticket has three or more journeys.

Can I apply a GPU to UA metal that is ticketed on non-UA ticket stock?
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/19321483-post23.html says you can.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/19324013-post25.html says not always.

Can I use a GPU on flights operated by other airlines?
Yes, Copa, LH and NH.

On Copa, the rules are the same as for flights operated by UA. It can't be done online, so you have to call. The regular Premier desk can't do it, though, even though Copa uses MP as its loyalty program--you'll need to call (or be transferred to) the Star Alliance Help Desk to complete the process. (And it's an involved process for the agents--they have to duplicate the Copa PNR in SHARES and issue you a separate UA PNR. Betwen *A Desk hold times--no priority for Premiers--and the hassle it is for the agents, plan on 30-45 minutes to get this done. It may be simpler if you booked your Copa tickets through United.) Note that an RPU works anywhere on Copa that a GPU works, so don't waste GPUs unnecessarily.

On LH, the process is completely different. You can use a GPU on LH operated fights only if printed for a specific flight of a specific reservation. See
Update to Lufthansa (LH) GPU Certificate Request Process

I see GPUs for sale on Craigslist or eBay. May I buy them and use them?
We do not recommend this. If UA determines the GPU was sold, you risk having your M+ account terminated and loss of your miles, status, lifetime miles, etc.

If I have upgraded a flight with miles, cash, GPU, RPU, CPU, etc. from Y to J, may I upgrade to F with a GPU?
Policy does not allow this. However, once upgraded to business you may be offered a cash buy-up to F.

If I apply a GPU on a multi segment journey, what happens one or segments clear, and one or more do not?
The exact wording from united.com is:In most cases, the Global Premier Upgrade will be considered used if any segment of an itinerary is upgraded or flown. However, for travel which includes segments in United BusinessFirst or United Global First, the Global Premier Upgrade will be re-deposited if the United BusinessFirst or United Global First segment(s) could not be upgraded.

This has at least three interpretations when the journey consists of segments that have all lie flat seating, and one or more upgrades to BF or GF fails, but one or more upgrades to BF or GF succeeds. The first is that since the wording is not "if any United BusinessFirst or United Global First segment(s) could not be upgraded" the GPU is not redeposited. The second is that the GPU is redeposited, even if for example, ORD-NRT was upgraded, and NRT-SIN was not. The third is that if the longest segment was not upgraded to BF or GF, the GPU is redeposited. In practice, UA agents appear to follow the third interpretation.
UPDATE: The wording in the Mileage upgrade section is a bit clearer and probably also reflects the policy for GPUs.What is the refund policy for MileagePlus Upgrade Awards that do not clear the waitlist?
If you request an upgrade using a MileagePlus Upgrade Award, and none of your travel segments are upgraded, then we will automatically redeposit your miles and co-pay. In most instances, a MileagePlus Upgrade Award will be considered used if any segment of your travel is upgraded. However, if your travel includes requested upgrades to United BusinessFirst® and/or United Global FirstSM, and none of the United BusinessFirst or United Global First segments are upgraded, then your MileagePlus Upgrade Award will not be considered used, even if you are upgraded to United First® or United Business® on another segment. In these instances, we will fully redeposit your miles and co-pay. When applicable, these refunds will occur automatically seven to 10 days after travel.

Redeposits don't always happen automatically, and when you call, you might find agents are trained to follow the longest segment interpretation, whereby if the longest segment is upgraded, even if not BF or GF, then the GPU will not be deposited. See http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/21138703-post394.html of push back and eventual capitulation by UA.

Can I add myself to the wait list within 24 hours of departure?
No, all you can do is attempt to apply the GPU periodically until it clears into upgrade inventory if any opens up. The 1K desk cannot put you on the wait list inside 24 hours because SHARES transfers the flight to airport control.

Do the fare class restrictions apply to domestic flights?
No, you can use a GPU on any fare on any domestic/ any CPU eligible flight.

Is there a maximum layover between segments of a journey?
Unclear. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/20453548-post221.html is an example of 38 hours, where the 1K desk applied it on behalf of the customer. What is interesting about this case is that 38 hours is well beyond a layover, which implies that in some cases, one GPU can be used for two journeys on the same ticket even if the two journeys are beyond 12 hours apart (12 hours being the pmUA rule – 4 hours for North American / “domestic” only flights).

How is the waitlist prioritized?
United.com details the process in the "Upgrade confirmation priority" section of this page.
For non-CPU flightsIf an upgrade seat becomes available, waitlisted customers are confirmed automatically based on the Premier® status of the redeeming account***, then fare class, then time of request.
For CPU flights, GS and YBM fares will be handled before GPU/Miles/RPU users and finally CPU requests. Within these groups upgrades are prioritized based on Premier® status of the redeeming account***, then fare class.
If not cleared until gate, it is believe the time factor is based on check-in time.

***On 4/15/15 travelers will no longer inherit the status of the redeeming account and will instead be prioritized by the status of the highest premier member on the PNR they are traveling on.

What is the relative waitlist priority of GPU vs Miles
Appears the use of GPU vs Miles has no impact on the waitlist priority.

May I cross two oceans with one GPU?
Yes if the entire journey is on one confirmation number and the max layover rule (above) is met.

Can I avoid upgrade lottery by booking only flights that have upgrade inventory?
Yes, see Post 3-Mar-2012:How to find upgrade inventory [+how to see fare bucket availability]. Note that you have to wait for the flight to ticket, by which time upgrade inventory can disappear. If so, cancel (within 24 hours of booking, so no penalty) and try again.

My GPU is still valid, but my journey starts after the GPU expires. Can I use the GPU for that journey?
No.

My GPU is still valid, but my journey starts before the GPU expires, and ends after the GPU expires. Can I use the GPU for that journey?
Yes if the initial flight scheduled departure is prior to expiration.

Can I let someone else use my GPU?
Yes. They will be waitlisted prioritized based on your status until 4/15/2015 at which point they will be prioritized based on their own status (or lack thereof).

If I let someone else use my GPU, do I have to be on the same reservation, same journey and/or same flight?
No to all.

What happens if there are multiple pax on the same reservation confirmation number and the reservation is split; will the GPU(s) that is(are) waitlisted on one or more pax stay with the new reservation?
Yes.

Why do Non-Revs get assigned seats in First/Business instead of upgrading paying customers?
UA’s policy is paying customers have priority for upgrades. However, per UA’s employee benefit package, Non-Revs can have access to unassigned seats if there are no waitlisted paying customers. This Non-Rev benefit is part of the negotiated employee compensation.
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Consolidated Global Premier Upgrade (GPU) Questions Thread [Archive]

Old Oct 16, 2012, 7:19 am
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
The present site does not have the equivalent.
Thanks for the info.
In a family/business with several frequent flyers its very hard to keep control, especially if some non cleared GPUs/RPUs do automaticly come back and need an additional phone call.
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Old Oct 16, 2012, 9:37 am
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Originally Posted by STEPHANKOENIG
Thanks for the info.
In a family/business with several frequent flyers its very hard to keep control, especially if some non cleared GPUs/RPUs do automaticly come back and need an additional phone call.
Might be worth creating a simple spreadsheet (Excel/Google Docs/...) to track the multiple accounts. unfortunate it is needed but make easier to track by collecting the data real-time.
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Old Oct 17, 2012, 11:32 am
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
The codeshare limitation on GPUs/RPUs is gone. A defintive plus of the merger / systems change.
Does this mean I can apply a GPU on an NH flight (NH metal) that has a UA codeshare number (UA ticket)?
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Old Oct 17, 2012, 2:09 pm
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Originally Posted by PanAmWT
Does this mean I can apply a GPU on an NH flight (NH metal) that has a UA codeshare number (UA ticket)?
no -- it means you can upgrade an UA operated flight even if it is booked as a codeshare, you could not for PMUA.
GPU means nothing for NH operated flight.
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Old Oct 18, 2012, 2:46 am
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
no -- it means you can upgrade an UA operated flight even if it is booked as a codeshare, you could not for PMUA.
GPU means nothing for NH operated flight.
That is what I thought. Thanks!
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Old Oct 28, 2012, 4:06 pm
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UPgrade with Miles & co-pay, then switch to GPU later?

Does anybody know if it's possible to upgrade a flight next year with miles & co-pay, then when the GPU's come in, switch the upgrade? Does anybody know if this is possible, or will they have to put you back in the cue when they give up the miles & co-pay upgrade?
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Old Nov 19, 2012, 3:22 pm
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I requested an upgrade using a GPU on BOS-EWR-MAN online. The BOS-EWR segment cleared, but the EWR-MAN is still waitlisted. I do not want to waste a GPU on a short domestic flight, so I phoned the IK desk to remove the upgrade on this segment. However, the agent told me that if the EWR-MAN segment doesn't clear, I would not lose my GPU as it is clearly for the transatlantic portion. Is this true or was the agent making it up?
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Old Nov 19, 2012, 3:47 pm
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Originally Posted by allenkeys
However, the agent told me that if the EWR-MAN segment doesn't clear, I would not lose my GPU as it is clearly for the transatlantic portion.
That is correct. I have had this a few times. GPU came back.
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Old Nov 19, 2012, 4:51 pm
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Originally Posted by allenkeys
.. However, the agent told me that if the EWR-MAN segment doesn't clear, I would not lose my GPU as it is clearly for the transatlantic portion. Is this true or was the agent making it up?
the stated UA policy is
In most cases, the Global Premier Upgrade will be considered used if any segment of an itinerary is upgraded or flown. However, for travel which includes segments in United BusinessFirst or United Global First, the Global Premier Upgrade will be re-deposited if the United BusinessFirst or United Global First segment(s) could not be upgraded.
recent reports have hinted this is sometimes automatic, others have had to call.
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Old Nov 19, 2012, 5:41 pm
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Originally Posted by STEPHANKOENIG
That is correct. I have had this a few times. GPU came back.
And you keep the domestic upgrade as a consolation prize.
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Old Nov 20, 2012, 6:52 am
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Originally Posted by STEPHANKOENIG
That is correct. I have had this a few times. GPU came back.
Originally Posted by TomA
And you keep the domestic upgrade as a consolation prize.
Just what I wanted to hear, thanks! ^
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Old Nov 20, 2012, 7:44 am
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One thing I have always wondered which has never happened to me:

What if you use a GPU for TPA-ERW/EWR-NRT/NRT-BKK and you only clear TPA-ERW and NRT-BKK?

Do you get the GPU back in this case? I was told once that you get the GPU back if you don't clear the segment that crosses an ocean. But I have a feeling that you wouldn't get it back if you cleared NRT-BKK either.
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Old Nov 20, 2012, 8:14 am
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United policy says:

However, for travel which includes segments in United BusinessFirst or United Global First, the Global Premier Upgrade will be re-deposited if the United BusinessFirst or United Global First segment(s) could not be upgraded.

So the question in your case would be:

Are you upgraded to BusinessFirst or United Global First on NRT-BKK?
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Old Nov 20, 2012, 10:58 am
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SWU on mixed fare class, one-stop flight with same flight number

I have an SFO-NRT-BKK itinerary that has the same flight number (UA 837) but different fare classes (W and V) for the two segments. If I apply an SWU, will each segment be considered separately for upgrade inventory, or is R>0 required on both segments to clear? I did a search and couldn't find an answer. Thanks.

Thanks to the mods for moving this to the post-merger forum

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Old Nov 20, 2012, 11:36 pm
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Originally Posted by STEPHANKOENIG
United policy says:

However, for travel which includes segments in United BusinessFirst or United Global First, the Global Premier Upgrade will be re-deposited if the United BusinessFirst or United Global First segment(s) could not be upgraded.

So the question in your case would be:

Are you upgraded to BusinessFirst or United Global First on NRT-BKK?
Sort of... and that is why I said you probably lose it. It is called BF, but the seats are more like domestic F.


Originally Posted by FlytheTail
I have an SFO-NRT-BKK itinerary that has the same flight number (UA 837) but different fare classes (W and V) for the two segments. If I apply an SWU, will each segment be considered separately for upgrade inventory, or is R>0 required on both segments to clear? I did a search and couldn't find an answer. Thanks.
Yes, each segment is considered separately.
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