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Many of the questions about the validity of itineraries containing open jaws or stopovers can be found in the wiki at: Consolidated Rules for Open Jaw and Stopver Award Flights. Please read that prior to posting questions.
MileagePlus Star Alliance Travel Rules
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/mileageplus/awards/travel/starairawards.aspx
MileagePlus Star Alliance Travel Rules
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/mileageplus/awards/travel/starairawards.aspx
Consolidated "Is My Planned MileagePlus Award Itinerary Valid?" Thread [Merged]
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Consolidated "Is My Planned MileagePlus Award Itinerary Valid?" Thread [Merged]
Hello,
Exploring some routing options from Charlotte, NC to Toluca, Mexico (TLC).
Is this a valid routing on a UA award?
CLT - LAS (Stopover) - IAH - TLC (destination) - IAH - CLT.
Also, are MEX and TLC considered Co Terminals? If so, is this legal?
CLT - MEX (destination) - TLC - IAH - LAS (stopover) - CLT.
Thanks,
Beofotch
Exploring some routing options from Charlotte, NC to Toluca, Mexico (TLC).
Is this a valid routing on a UA award?
CLT - LAS (Stopover) - IAH - TLC (destination) - IAH - CLT.
Also, are MEX and TLC considered Co Terminals? If so, is this legal?
CLT - MEX (destination) - TLC - IAH - LAS (stopover) - CLT.
Thanks,
Beofotch
Last edited by beofotch; May 16, 2012 at 9:14 am
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Hello,
Exploring some routing options from Charlotte, NC to Toluca, Mexico (TLC).
Is this a valid routing on a UA award?
CLT - LAS (Stopover) - IAH - TLC (destination) - IAH - CLT.
Also, are MEX and TLC considered Co Terminals? If so, is this legal?
CLT - MEX (destination) - TLC - IAH - LAS (stopover) - CLT.
Thanks,
Beofotch
Exploring some routing options from Charlotte, NC to Toluca, Mexico (TLC).
Is this a valid routing on a UA award?
CLT - LAS (Stopover) - IAH - TLC (destination) - IAH - CLT.
Also, are MEX and TLC considered Co Terminals? If so, is this legal?
CLT - MEX (destination) - TLC - IAH - LAS (stopover) - CLT.
Thanks,
Beofotch
If you need to include LAS on this trip then you'd have to book a one way award CLT-LAS then a separate round trip ticket LAS-MEX, TLC-CLT. Or you could just do all one way segments (although that can be troublesome if you need to make changes or cancel..multiple tickets means multiple change fees).
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There are no stopovers allowed on award tickets that are all in one region (ie, US to Mexico). So you can't have a stopover in Vegas. You can book an open jaw (or even a double open jaw) though so it's no problem to go CLT-MEX, TLC-CLT.
If you need to include LAS on this trip then you'd have to book a one way award CLT-LAS then a separate round trip ticket LAS-MEX, TLC-CLT. Or you could just do all one way segments (although that can be troublesome if you need to make changes or cancel..multiple tickets means multiple change fees).
If you need to include LAS on this trip then you'd have to book a one way award CLT-LAS then a separate round trip ticket LAS-MEX, TLC-CLT. Or you could just do all one way segments (although that can be troublesome if you need to make changes or cancel..multiple tickets means multiple change fees).
This is not correct. You can have a stopover to/from Mexico.
The award routing looks fine to me.
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valid MP award routing (NYC-LHR//CDG-PEK//PVG-NYC)?
If I plug in NYC-LHR//LHR-PEK//PVG-NYC, united.com is able to price out an RT mileage required (i.e., with the free stopover in LHR). However I couldn't price out NYC-LHR//CDG-PEK//PVG-NYC on united.com using multiple destinations, is this because its against award routing rules? Or a limitation of award booking on united.com?
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You'll see a difference of opinion here on this one. I say no, because you have an openjaw at your stopover point. sbm12 will disagree.
Good luck getting it priced - $50 says it's not going to happen for you.
Good luck getting it priced - $50 says it's not going to happen for you.
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EDIT: Reading the response below, and the "new" rules, there's an argumeent to be made that this is legal. I think the only way you'd have a chance is if you route PVG-NYC via Europe so that it's not a RTW
Last edited by gba; Jul 30, 2012 at 6:54 pm Reason: Edit due to later comment
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If I plug in NYC-LHR//LHR-PEK//PVG-NYC, united.com is able to price out an RT mileage required (i.e., with the free stopover in LHR). However I couldn't price out NYC-LHR//CDG-PEK//PVG-NYC on united.com using multiple destinations, is this because its against award routing rules? Or a limitation of award booking on united.com?
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-- you information is old, for the new rules see United air travel award rules
What is unclear if the second open jaw can be at the stopover or just on the return trip.
Two open jaws are permitted per roundtrip award. For example, you can fly from Newark to London and return from Paris to Washington Dulles.
A stopover is permitted on roundtrip award travel only. One stopover is permitted, unless otherwise noted. Additional mileage may be required for Saver Awards within the mainland U.S., Alaska and Canada.
A stopover is permitted on roundtrip award travel only. One stopover is permitted, unless otherwise noted. Additional mileage may be required for Saver Awards within the mainland U.S., Alaska and Canada.
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sadly it looks like United cancelled service to Toluca, TLC in early September. I can't find a press release for it though.
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With the newUA are stopovers allowed everywhere or just certain destinations? I searched for this on the site with no luck.
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More or less anywhere; the rules do say something like "most direct routing" somewhere, I think, but that isn't really enforced. For awards wholly within the lower 48, Canada and Alaska there is a surcharge for the stopover. Otherwise it is a freebie on the award, along with two open jaws.
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is this a valid award : EWR-YYZ-LAS
i know AirCanada is not allowed to SELL you a ticket between 2 points in the U.S., but are you allowed to redeem an award ticket that's UA EWR-YYZ that connects to AC YYZ-LAS ?
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2 awards, then yes, legal. One award, no, not legal.