Miserable non-upgrade experience
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: SFO
Programs: UA 1K, GlobalEntry, HHonors Diamond, Hyatt Plat, Hertz Presidents Circle, Avis Presidents Club
Posts: 111
Miserable non-upgrade experience
I was traveling from SFO-IAD-MUC on sunday.
When I checked in at SFO, I was #1 on the 777 from IAD-MUC.
When I got to IAD, I was #5 (11 Biz seats available)
I was GPU-waitlisted on an M fare, so I always thought my chances would be good.
I was standing by the front desk when the GA started clearing people.
I overheard her say to the other agent, "Oh, something's going on with this one, it wont clear" (talking about me)
I look up at the board, and 11 people have cleared (5 people who were below me), and I'm at #1
So I explain that, I am that passenger.
All she tells me is, the computer wont clear you. I asked if she could un-check me and check me back in. She tells me, "that wont do anything!".
She tells me to take my Y seat, and she'll come get me if she's able to do anything.
After a while she comes back to my seat and tells me. I was on the waitlist, but not the "day-of" waitlist. She mentioned that I should always call the day of my flight, and if the upgrade has not cleared, to make sure I was transferred to the day-of waitlist.
I've never heard of such a thing. How does my name show up on the board, but I get denied an upgrade.
Hopefully this bug gets fixed soon.
When I checked in at SFO, I was #1 on the 777 from IAD-MUC.
When I got to IAD, I was #5 (11 Biz seats available)
I was GPU-waitlisted on an M fare, so I always thought my chances would be good.
I was standing by the front desk when the GA started clearing people.
I overheard her say to the other agent, "Oh, something's going on with this one, it wont clear" (talking about me)
I look up at the board, and 11 people have cleared (5 people who were below me), and I'm at #1
So I explain that, I am that passenger.
All she tells me is, the computer wont clear you. I asked if she could un-check me and check me back in. She tells me, "that wont do anything!".
She tells me to take my Y seat, and she'll come get me if she's able to do anything.
After a while she comes back to my seat and tells me. I was on the waitlist, but not the "day-of" waitlist. She mentioned that I should always call the day of my flight, and if the upgrade has not cleared, to make sure I was transferred to the day-of waitlist.
I've never heard of such a thing. How does my name show up on the board, but I get denied an upgrade.
Hopefully this bug gets fixed soon.
#3
Original Poster
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: SFO
Programs: UA 1K, GlobalEntry, HHonors Diamond, Hyatt Plat, Hertz Presidents Circle, Avis Presidents Club
Posts: 111
I agree, and the list they show on the screens at the gate, I thought were the day-of list. Which I was clearly on.
I don't get it...other than the "computer" is broken!
I don't get it...other than the "computer" is broken!
#4
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,645
I was traveling from SFO-IAD-MUC on sunday.
When I checked in at SFO, I was #1 on the 777 from IAD-MUC.
When I got to IAD, I was #5 (11 Biz seats available)
I was GPU-waitlisted on an M fare, so I always thought my chances would be good.
I was standing by the front desk when the GA started clearing people.
I overheard her say to the other agent, "Oh, something's going on with this one, it wont clear" (talking about me)
I look up at the board, and 11 people have cleared (5 people who were below me), and I'm at #1
So I explain that, I am that passenger.
All she tells me is, the computer wont clear you. I asked if she could un-check me and check me back in. She tells me, "that wont do anything!".
She tells me to take my Y seat, and she'll come get me if she's able to do anything.
After a while she comes back to my seat and tells me. I was on the waitlist, but not the "day-of" waitlist. She mentioned that I should always call the day of my flight, and if the upgrade has not cleared, to make sure I was transferred to the day-of waitlist.
I've never heard of such a thing. How does my name show up on the board, but I get denied an upgrade.
Hopefully this bug gets fixed soon.
When I checked in at SFO, I was #1 on the 777 from IAD-MUC.
When I got to IAD, I was #5 (11 Biz seats available)
I was GPU-waitlisted on an M fare, so I always thought my chances would be good.
I was standing by the front desk when the GA started clearing people.
I overheard her say to the other agent, "Oh, something's going on with this one, it wont clear" (talking about me)
I look up at the board, and 11 people have cleared (5 people who were below me), and I'm at #1
So I explain that, I am that passenger.
All she tells me is, the computer wont clear you. I asked if she could un-check me and check me back in. She tells me, "that wont do anything!".
She tells me to take my Y seat, and she'll come get me if she's able to do anything.
After a while she comes back to my seat and tells me. I was on the waitlist, but not the "day-of" waitlist. She mentioned that I should always call the day of my flight, and if the upgrade has not cleared, to make sure I was transferred to the day-of waitlist.
I've never heard of such a thing. How does my name show up on the board, but I get denied an upgrade.
Hopefully this bug gets fixed soon.
Sorry to hear. What a waste of an M fare.
Don't expect this to be getting fixed. As far as I can tell, it's been this way since 3/3 and there's no indication they care.
#5
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Dubai / NYC
Programs: EK-IO, UA-1K2MM, ETIHAD-GOLD, SPG-PLAT LIFETIME, JUMEIRAH SERIUS GOLD
Posts: 5,220
If your name was on the screen at #1, then that should reflect the "day of" waitlist. I think the GA probably lied to you. It makes no sense that the screen at the airport would show something other than the "day of" waitlist.
Sorry to hear. What a waste of an M fare.
Don't expect this to be getting fixed. As far as I can tell, it's been this way since 3/3 and there's no indication they care.
Sorry to hear. What a waste of an M fare.
Don't expect this to be getting fixed. As far as I can tell, it's been this way since 3/3 and there's no indication they care.
#6
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chicago, Kailua-Kona, Cairns
Programs: UA 1K >2MM, IC Plat, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Gold
Posts: 740
I've been mostly patient with the problems this year, but I finally wrote an email to the 1KVoice. I don't have a history of being a whiner, and have only written complaint letters a half dozen times in probably 15 years. I received a response from UA today, and basically the response told me to suck it up, we're doing the best we can. No offer for any compensation, no nothing.
Odd for a business to act this way.
#7
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Dubai / NYC
Programs: EK-IO, UA-1K2MM, ETIHAD-GOLD, SPG-PLAT LIFETIME, JUMEIRAH SERIUS GOLD
Posts: 5,220
I recently had a similar upgrade issue GUM/NRT. The flight actually went out with empty C seats and after the gate refused to upgrade me.
I've been mostly patient with the problems this year, but I finally wrote an email to the 1KVoice. I don't have a history of being a whiner, and have only written complaint letters a half dozen times in probably 15 years. I received a response from UA today, and basically the response told me to suck it up, we're doing the best we can. No offer for any compensation, no nothing.
Odd for a business to act this way.
I've been mostly patient with the problems this year, but I finally wrote an email to the 1KVoice. I don't have a history of being a whiner, and have only written complaint letters a half dozen times in probably 15 years. I received a response from UA today, and basically the response told me to suck it up, we're doing the best we can. No offer for any compensation, no nothing.
Odd for a business to act this way.
#8
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: SFO
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I feel for the GA's if the computer just tells them "NO", and they cant do anything.
Seems like there should way to manually clear upgrades, until the automatic processes are fixed. Because who knows how long that will take. Was it this broken on pmCO?
Seems like there should way to manually clear upgrades, until the automatic processes are fixed. Because who knows how long that will take. Was it this broken on pmCO?
#9
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: New York NY
Programs: UA Gold, CO Plat, CO Million Miler
Posts: 2,617
No!!! PMCO was a great airline until the merger, albeit problems such as TODs began cropping up in the year prior.
#10
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 2,933
The attitude seems to be, it's a FREE upgrade and, "You'll sit where you're told, and you'll like it"!
They got's more portant stuff to fix beside's where peeple's sit's, 4 nuttin'!!!
#11
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Central Florida
Programs: MP 1K/Onepass Plat 1MM, SPG Plat, Marriott Plat
Posts: 562
Did pmCo care about which cabin ANY of their passengers rode in, unless they purchased a seat for that cabin ???
The attitude seems to be, it's a FREE upgrade and, "You'll sit where you're told, and you'll like it"!
They got's more portant stuff to fix beside's where peeple's sit's, 4 nuttin'!!!
The attitude seems to be, it's a FREE upgrade and, "You'll sit where you're told, and you'll like it"!
They got's more portant stuff to fix beside's where peeple's sit's, 4 nuttin'!!!
#12
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: SPI
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Posts: 18,147
#13
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA
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Posts: 10,008
Add ToD's to the mix and things did definitely get worse.
#14
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Minneapolis
Programs: ual(1K), dl(plat), spg(plat), swa, hh, Hyatt(diamond)
Posts: 205
We have moved into the Age of "NO ONE SEEMS TO GIVE A DAMN ANYMORE." I do not believe there is anything that you can do in a time like this. Back up Plan, Smile at the Gate Agent.
#15
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA
Programs: DL SM Plat, B6 TrueBlue, UA MP, AAdvantage
Posts: 10,008
In my experience, CO dba UA at this point is--overall--the worst experience in airline travel in the United States.
It's not all bad, mind you, there are bright spots, but overall there are enough chronic problems to make it truly awful.
I have been flying a lot of DL , and some AA. Both head and shoulders above UA right now in my experience.
Things will change and I don't doubt UA will start to get its act together, but before they can truly recommit to customer service, they will probably need to part ways with Smisek, who seems to believe that he is operating Aeroflot in the 70's and that customers don't have a choice.