Recording of UA First Class Customer being ignored by Customer Service in IAH
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Wrong!
The proper way to deal with the situation is to acknowledge the customer, explain to/tell them that you will be calling your supervisor over to assist them and then ask if they could step aside until the supervisor arrives so you can assist other customers. That's how it's taught and how it should be (n.b. should be) done and with that, it puts a positive spin on the customer service rep as if done the way you state, you have what was recorded
Yes, not a pretty picture and not painting any apologies nor assigning any blame to either party as there are always 3 sides to every story, your side, my side and the truth , but if the customer service rep had acted as I noted above, this situation could have been completely avoided
Yes but only after what I said above.
The proper way to deal with the situation is to acknowledge the customer, explain to/tell them that you will be calling your supervisor over to assist them and then ask if they could step aside until the supervisor arrives so you can assist other customers. That's how it's taught and how it should be (n.b. should be) done and with that, it puts a positive spin on the customer service rep as if done the way you state, you have what was recorded
Yes, not a pretty picture and not painting any apologies nor assigning any blame to either party as there are always 3 sides to every story, your side, my side and the truth , but if the customer service rep had acted as I noted above, this situation could have been completely avoided
Yes but only after what I said above.
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You have no idea what happened prior to the recording starting. And if there is a customer pissed off enough that they decide they're going to video tape their interactions with the CSR to try to catch them in a lie then I have no doubt that they aren't the most rational or well behaved. What makes you think that once informed that a supervisor is on the way the customer is simply going to move over and wait?
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UA didn't ask for nor is listening to your advice ... from the blog:
They apologized, the standard form letter language to appease him but might not really take any further action internally since they can see the situation for what it is - how most of us see it on the thread.
I agree with reamworks' sentiment in his post:
" My opinion of UA has been diminished, not because of this "blogger's" video, but because UA pandered to him. "
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+1... prior to the cut we see, anyway.
I don't really want to know in the literal sense, but I think it's likely she was plenty responsive before he started filming -- and maybe even after he started, up until where he may have edited the clip to start.
We have no idea how long it really took for the supervisor to arrive, and how many times she may have said that on camera before she just couldn't keep it up anymore. I don't think that's a core requirement for the job she does.
"... we have certain groups..."
Unless, maybe... the whole thing is a set-up in the first place, and they're not really trying to make their flight, they're trying to create something for their blog? Thanks reality TV, you've really improved our culture.
In order to credibly expose them when they're truly wrong, we need to keep people from crying Wolf.
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+1... prior to the cut we see, anyway.
I don't really want to know in the literal sense, but I think it's likely she was plenty responsive before he started filming -- and maybe even after he started, up until where he may have edited the clip to start.
We have no idea how long it really took for the supervisor to arrive, and how many times she may have said that on camera before she just couldn't keep it up anymore. I don't think that's a core requirement for the job she does.
"... we have certain groups..."
Unless, maybe... the whole thing is a set-up in the first place, and they're not really trying to make their flight, they're trying to create something for their blog? Thanks reality TV, you've really improved our culture.
In order to credibly expose them when they're truly wrong, we need to keep people from crying Wolf.
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I don't know what all the comments are for... seems like usual customer service at IAH... actually a little better than normal!
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Oh so if we consider the incident, the "evidence" and think for ourselves objectively and find that the customer was in the wrong that makes us agents of the airline. That got me laughing.
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As noted elsewhere in the thread, I'm betting that this part also happened but that it isn't included in the recording shown. That the guy didn't step aside is not something the agent can control.
You have no idea what happened prior to the recording starting. And if there is a customer pissed off enough that they decide they're going to video tape their interactions with the CSR to try to catch them in a lie then I have no doubt that they aren't the most rational or well behaved. What makes you think that once informed that a supervisor is on the way the customer is simply going to move over and wait?
You have no idea what happened prior to the recording starting. And if there is a customer pissed off enough that they decide they're going to video tape their interactions with the CSR to try to catch them in a lie then I have no doubt that they aren't the most rational or well behaved. What makes you think that once informed that a supervisor is on the way the customer is simply going to move over and wait?
Now as to the second part of your post..... have you worked in a service industry and if yes, at what level and for how long? As I posted, "The proper way to deal with the situation is to acknowledge the customer, explain to/tell them that you will be calling your supervisor over to assist them and then ask if they could step aside until the supervisor arrives so you can assist other customers." Now if the customer doesn't step aside, there are other methods available to have the customer step aside but sadly, those methods can/could lead to a situation which can be just as bad if not worse than what appears in the video as shown. But going back to asking the customer to step aside, I'll put my 30+ years in banking customer service and operations plus the hundreds (n.b. hundreds) of training seminars I've done on how to give proper customer service and the methods I've taught up against any irate customer and I will guarantee (n.b. guarantee) that the customer will step aside on their own 99% of the time as the first thing that a customer wants (actually needs but I digress) is to be acknowledged and then take the situation forward from that point.
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The point: seemed like typical (if not better) IAH service standards. I ahve experienced far worse. The guy may or may not have had a legit complaint, we don't have all the facts.
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Hey, come to Richmond VA. We have a PMUA CS agent that was cut from the same mold. And she is still around.
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At least you acknowledge that there was clearly more to the story. Makes me wonder how it is possible to admit that but still claim that you know how everything must've played out based on the guy standing there recording the interaction.
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While we don't really know what happened prior to the video, if you look at customer's account of the incident here, he does give his version of what led up to the video:
"... I then proceeded to the closest Customer Service Desk to inquire why I was not put on the flight.
“I don’t believe you” were the exact words uttered by the agent within the first two minutes of our conversation. I said I was well within the 15-minute rule and I had a confirmed seat. The words “I don’t believe you” was again uttered. She must have said it at least five times prompting me to ask her, “This is how you treat your Premier Members with a first-class seat ticket? “ It was absurd and made no sense. She then said, “What do you want me to do? Issue you a refund?” I responded, “Yes!” She took my ticket and then gave me the bad news: “Your ticket is non-refundable.” What? Why did she even asked me if I wanted a refund if it was never an option on the first place? Then I asked her to look into the system to check if the flight was overbooked. She glanced at her computer and then she couldn’t give me an answer. I then told her that I needed to get our conversation on video. I told her that I was going to take it up with Jeff Smisek (United’s CEO) and asked for her permission for me to record our conversation. She shrugged and said nothing. I started videorecording, then continued my inquiry. “Was the flight I was scheduled to take overbooked?” You can watch the rest of the “conversation” in the recorded video below:"
I have to admit that as much of a d-bag he seems in the video, if a CSR basically told me that she thought I was lying several times, I'd get a little ticked off as well and would probably want a recording of the conversation. Whoever was at fault, the CSR was probably wise to shut up once he started recording.
"... I then proceeded to the closest Customer Service Desk to inquire why I was not put on the flight.
“I don’t believe you” were the exact words uttered by the agent within the first two minutes of our conversation. I said I was well within the 15-minute rule and I had a confirmed seat. The words “I don’t believe you” was again uttered. She must have said it at least five times prompting me to ask her, “This is how you treat your Premier Members with a first-class seat ticket? “ It was absurd and made no sense. She then said, “What do you want me to do? Issue you a refund?” I responded, “Yes!” She took my ticket and then gave me the bad news: “Your ticket is non-refundable.” What? Why did she even asked me if I wanted a refund if it was never an option on the first place? Then I asked her to look into the system to check if the flight was overbooked. She glanced at her computer and then she couldn’t give me an answer. I then told her that I needed to get our conversation on video. I told her that I was going to take it up with Jeff Smisek (United’s CEO) and asked for her permission for me to record our conversation. She shrugged and said nothing. I started videorecording, then continued my inquiry. “Was the flight I was scheduled to take overbooked?” You can watch the rest of the “conversation” in the recorded video below:"
I have to admit that as much of a d-bag he seems in the video, if a CSR basically told me that she thought I was lying several times, I'd get a little ticked off as well and would probably want a recording of the conversation. Whoever was at fault, the CSR was probably wise to shut up once he started recording.
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I have to admit that as much of a d-bag he seems in the video, if a CSR basically told me that she thought I was lying several times, I'd get a little ticked off as well and would probably want a recording of the conversation. Whoever was at fault, the CSR was probably wise to shut up once he started recording.
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I don't know why, can't put my finger on it......BUT I DON'T TRUST / BELIEVE this customer at all!!! Maybe it's because he comes ACCROSS as a slimy little twerp, maybe his voice just grades on me, maybe it's that I have not seen the WHOLE/UNEDITED video. I JUST DONY BUY IT!!!
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Seeing as I wouldn't lie, it's a moot point. I don't know about the actual customer, but it wouldn't be very smart of a CSR to accuse him of lying even if he was. She should just apologize for the inconvenience and lay out his options (like sending an email complaint to UA ).
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At least you acknowledge that there was clearly more to the story. Makes me wonder how it is possible to admit that but still claim that you know how everything must've played out based on the guy standing there recording the interaction.
Where in the name of God's green earth did I ever say I know how everything must have played out? I have also said in more ways than one post that there is more to this story as there is in every story <hint: look at my earlier posts for "there are 3 sides..".>
Now going back to what I did say...
There are in fact other ways to have a customer step out of a line and wait for a supervisor but like I said, they can produce just as ugly a p/r situation as what was portrayed in the part of the video we've all seen and if you want me to spell it out for you, any business establishment has the right to tell a customer to leave (or to step out of the line) or they will call the police if they feel the customer is being disruptive but like I said, that usually ends up ugly.
Now going back to "basic traing" , if the CSR did as I described, then the pax is flat out wrong for continuing to escalate the situation but if the CSR did not do as I described, then imho, she is in the wrong.
But who's right and who's wrong in this situation? The customer? The CSR? Both? None of us can answer that and on that point, I think all of us posting can agree.
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Seeing as I wouldn't lie, it's a moot point. I don't know about the actual customer, but it wouldn't be very smart of a CSR to accuse him of lying even if he was. She should just apologize for the inconvenience and lay out his options (like sending an email complaint to UA ).