No Show / Skipping / or Flying UA ticketed Flight Segment(s) Out of Order? {Archive}
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I'm looking for advice with a similar situation.
I'm on a flight returning to the east coast from an international destination with the point of entry into the US being SFO.
There's two people on the reservation. Can I stop my travel in SF and if so, will they cancel the second persons return flights to the east coast?
I'm on a flight returning to the east coast from an international destination with the point of entry into the US being SFO.
There's two people on the reservation. Can I stop my travel in SF and if so, will they cancel the second persons return flights to the east coast?
If you don't mind violating the CoC (throwaway ticketing), you can leave at SFO without calling UA at all. You have to claim your bags at SFO anyway, so you just take them and leave without re-checking them to SNA. It's extremely unlikely that United would say anything about the throwaway ticketing.
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You just have to split the reservation. This will result in a separate PNR for each passenger. Of course, you risk losing benefits for the 2nd passenger if you have status and they don't or vice versa. You can split the PNR online with out even calling ual.
If you don't split you run the risk of the other persons travel being interrupted or canceled.
If you don't split you run the risk of the other persons travel being interrupted or canceled.
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Won't the reservation automatically split if one passenger no-shows? The other pax will be fine, I'd just skip the last leg and not worry about it.
#770
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Thanks guys! Would it be stupid for me to stop at customer service at SFO anyway with an excuse of why I'm stopping my travel there, but the 2nd traveler is continuing? Or should I just skip out without saying anything.
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No benefit can be gained from talking to CS. At best, they'll cancel your leg, which will happen automatically when you no-show anyway. At worst, they can demand a re-fared ticket price from you, and when you refuse to pay it, they can annotate your PNR and call corporate security and trigger an investigation.
95% chance they'll do the former, but why take the chance? It confers you no benefit to talk to them.
In my experience, the chances of them doing anything to the second person on your PNR are virtually nil. Most of the stuff is automated and will happen automatically when they close the flight. There's a chance they may come on board and ask your second traveler if you're coming (mostly as a courtesy so they don't leave without someone!), but if that happens, just have your second traveler tell them that you had an emergency and won't be able to make the flight--no need for any more detail than that. If you really, really want to make sure life is 100% easy for the other person on your PNR, just ask someone to divide the PNRs. It takes 10 seconds and literally just a couple of keystrokes. No need to explain why or anything. You can do it upon arrival in SFO. If they ask why you want to divide them, just make up a bogus reason like you were hoping to list just yourself for an upgrade or that you may need to make a change to a different flight and it's easier if you're separate or something.
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A good piece of advice was once given to me: "Once you've won, shut up."
No benefit can be gained from talking to CS. At best, they'll cancel your leg, which will happen automatically when you no-show anyway. At worst, they can demand a re-fared ticket price from you, and when you refuse to pay it, they can annotate your PNR and call corporate security and trigger an investigation.
95% chance they'll do the former, but why take the chance? It confers you no benefit to talk to them.
In my experience, the chances of them doing anything to the second person on your PNR are virtually nil. Most of the stuff is automated and will happen automatically when they close the flight. There's a chance they may come on board and ask your second traveler if you're coming (mostly as a courtesy so they don't leave without someone!), but if that happens, just have your second traveler tell them that you had an emergency and won't be able to make the flight--no need for any more detail than that. If you really, really want to make sure life is 100% easy for the other person on your PNR, just ask someone to divide the PNRs. It takes 10 seconds and literally just a couple of keystrokes. No need to explain why or anything. You can do it upon arrival in SFO. If they ask why you want to divide them, just make up a bogus reason like you were hoping to list just yourself for an upgrade or that you may need to make a change to a different flight and it's easier if you're separate or something.
No benefit can be gained from talking to CS. At best, they'll cancel your leg, which will happen automatically when you no-show anyway. At worst, they can demand a re-fared ticket price from you, and when you refuse to pay it, they can annotate your PNR and call corporate security and trigger an investigation.
95% chance they'll do the former, but why take the chance? It confers you no benefit to talk to them.
In my experience, the chances of them doing anything to the second person on your PNR are virtually nil. Most of the stuff is automated and will happen automatically when they close the flight. There's a chance they may come on board and ask your second traveler if you're coming (mostly as a courtesy so they don't leave without someone!), but if that happens, just have your second traveler tell them that you had an emergency and won't be able to make the flight--no need for any more detail than that. If you really, really want to make sure life is 100% easy for the other person on your PNR, just ask someone to divide the PNRs. It takes 10 seconds and literally just a couple of keystrokes. No need to explain why or anything. You can do it upon arrival in SFO. If they ask why you want to divide them, just make up a bogus reason like you were hoping to list just yourself for an upgrade or that you may need to make a change to a different flight and it's easier if you're separate or something.
Thanks much! This is just what I needed to hear to make me feel much better.
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Skipping last leg
I have skipped the last leg of flights dozens of times but never skipped one where the last leg was an international destination. Anything i should be aware of? I was thinking of booking HNL-SFO-IAD-YYZ and skipping the last leg of IAD-YYZ. Aside of not checking bags, is there anything else i should be concerned over?
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1. That you'll still need a passport to check-in and board.
2. A possibility of an involuntary reroute via EWR/ORD/IAH to YYZ.
2. A possibility of an involuntary reroute via EWR/ORD/IAH to YYZ.
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Follow up to this question:
Even though the reservations are split, Two days ago I got CPU's for the two domestic flights from SFO to the east coast.
My travel partner (who has no status) is getting on these two flights. I'm not. I'm getting off in SFO, our first point of entry into the US.
What happens to her? What happens to her CPU's? Do they put her back in a coach seat once they realize I haven't boarded? Does she lose any seat?
Thanks!
Even though the reservations are split, Two days ago I got CPU's for the two domestic flights from SFO to the east coast.
My travel partner (who has no status) is getting on these two flights. I'm not. I'm getting off in SFO, our first point of entry into the US.
What happens to her? What happens to her CPU's? Do they put her back in a coach seat once they realize I haven't boarded? Does she lose any seat?
Thanks!
I'm looking for advice with a similar situation.
I'm on a flight returning to the east coast from an international destination with the point of entry into the US being SFO.
There's two people on the reservation. Can I stop my travel in SF and if so, will they cancel the second persons return flights to the east coast?
I'm on a flight returning to the east coast from an international destination with the point of entry into the US being SFO.
There's two people on the reservation. Can I stop my travel in SF and if so, will they cancel the second persons return flights to the east coast?
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Likely a GA will flag your account for audit. If HQ audits you may face an attempt at a retroactive charge or cancelled MP account. She'll be able to keep the seats though. You can defeat an attempt at back charging easily, but harder to get MP reinstated.
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Follow up to this question:
Even though the reservations are split, Two days ago I got CPU's for the two domestic flights from SFO to the east coast.
My travel partner (who has no status) is getting on these two flights. I'm not. I'm getting off in SFO, our first point of entry into the US.
What happens to her? What happens to her CPU's? Do they put her back in a coach seat once they realize I haven't boarded? Does she lose any seat?
Thanks!
Even though the reservations are split, Two days ago I got CPU's for the two domestic flights from SFO to the east coast.
My travel partner (who has no status) is getting on these two flights. I'm not. I'm getting off in SFO, our first point of entry into the US.
What happens to her? What happens to her CPU's? Do they put her back in a coach seat once they realize I haven't boarded? Does she lose any seat?
Thanks!
As far as companion seat I can't imagine she would lose it outside of some sort of oversold situation where she might be the first to get bumped. I don't think your account will be flagged as a previous poster mentioned if you have not made a habit of this.
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