P.S. Upgrade worth it for Redeye?
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#19
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I would do the upgrade every time, but I have RPUs to burn
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The UA F seat is an angled flat seat. I don't know if it's actually 180 degrees (but angled to the floor), as I haven't been on it, and many of these types of seats are actually 170-175 degrees between seat cushion and seat back (and the legrest sometimes angles down too). These types of seats are usually comfortable for side and even front sleepers (I actually find them more comfortable on my side or front than on my back).
The AA F seat is structured like a traditional recliner seat, although the recline is deeper than the other J seats mentioned above, probably 170 degrees. It's 62" of pitch, compared to DL and VX at 55", AA J at 50" and UA J at 54". Obviously more pitch enables deeper recline. The AA F seat is comfortable for back or side sleeping, not front. (And as an aside the AA F seat is the same seat they used to use as fully flat beds in international first class but went into storage when they pulled F off their 767-300s. They now have less pitch, don't recline all the way, and don't have the privacy shell, but it's the same seat.)
#23
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Worth it is relative
Worth it? If I had just enough miles or one cert to UG, I would do SFO-NRT over SFO-JFK if I couldn't afford to pay for C. So, only OP can make the "worth it" determination.
To me, I could care less about the food, it's comfort and on a red eye, flying in F/C makes all of the difference. I fly C on this route and will UG to F if it's avail. whatever the time of day. If you want something more substantial than UA offers, there's tons of good food at SFO to bring with you.
To me, I could care less about the food, it's comfort and on a red eye, flying in F/C makes all of the difference. I fly C on this route and will UG to F if it's avail. whatever the time of day. If you want something more substantial than UA offers, there's tons of good food at SFO to bring with you.
#24
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Made last min booking SFO to JFK next Thursday night on the 10:22pm Flight landing at 6:58am.
Is it worth it to spend the upgrade to move up to business? I know the seats are a bit better but I honestly can sleep in Y just fine. Is breakfast or anything else offered on this flight to make it worth wild?
Thanks
Json
Is it worth it to spend the upgrade to move up to business? I know the seats are a bit better but I honestly can sleep in Y just fine. Is breakfast or anything else offered on this flight to make it worth wild?
Thanks
Json
Also, and it's not much but since nobody else mentioned it, they pass out eye-shades and earplugs in PS C&F.
Last edited by Phil Level; Apr 21, 2012 at 10:46 pm
#25
Join Date: Mar 2012
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I can't comment on PS biz, which I know is a lot more comfy than standard business, but I've found redeyes in coach and business to be equally uncomfy. I've fly LAX-BOS on a 757 both in coach and business, and not really felt a difference. Albeit I cannot sleep without laying down flat, so that probably has something to do with!
I'm planning on upgrading on a flight to LAX soon so I can enjoy the longer time spent on the plane and a proper meal; everything seems kind of rushed on a late night flight so everyone can get to sleep.
I'm planning on upgrading on a flight to LAX soon so I can enjoy the longer time spent on the plane and a proper meal; everything seems kind of rushed on a late night flight so everyone can get to sleep.
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I can't comment on PS biz, which I know is a lot more comfy than standard business, but I've found redeyes in coach and business to be equally uncomfy. I've fly LAX-BOS on a 757 both in coach and business, and not really felt a difference. Albeit I cannot sleep without laying down flat, so that probably has something to do with!
I'm planning on upgrading on a flight to LAX soon so I can enjoy the longer time spent on the plane and a proper meal; everything seems kind of rushed on a late night flight so everyone can get to sleep.
I'm planning on upgrading on a flight to LAX soon so I can enjoy the longer time spent on the plane and a proper meal; everything seems kind of rushed on a late night flight so everyone can get to sleep.
#27
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#28
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Made last min booking SFO to JFK next Thursday night on the 10:22pm Flight landing at 6:58am.
Is it worth it to spend the upgrade to move up to business? I know the seats are a bit better but I honestly can sleep in Y just fine. Is breakfast or anything else offered on this flight to make it worth wild?
Thanks
Json
Is it worth it to spend the upgrade to move up to business? I know the seats are a bit better but I honestly can sleep in Y just fine. Is breakfast or anything else offered on this flight to make it worth wild?
Thanks
Json
YES YES YES.
Not for the food, but the seats are much better.
#29
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I can't comment on PS biz, which I know is a lot more comfy than standard business, but I've found redeyes in coach and business to be equally uncomfy. I've fly LAX-BOS on a 757 both in coach and business, and not really felt a difference. Albeit I cannot sleep without laying down flat, so that probably has something to do with!
#30
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PSc >>>>>PSy - 9A or 9D - I always fly in these seats - many years ago tried 6 behind the galley - but you have to climb over someone ot go to the loo - 5 is bad even though its an exit row - unless you like to smell the lavs or listen to the to-ing and fro-ing of the FAs
food is reasonable - ive done early morn, dayflights eve flights and red eyes on ps and they are all fairly good - except for a day flight LAX-JFK which went mechanical on 6 march 2012 and turned into a red eye arrriving at JFK approx 3am - however if u can sleep in Y why waste ur points/RPU? But then what are miles/RPU for?
food is reasonable - ive done early morn, dayflights eve flights and red eyes on ps and they are all fairly good - except for a day flight LAX-JFK which went mechanical on 6 march 2012 and turned into a red eye arrriving at JFK approx 3am - however if u can sleep in Y why waste ur points/RPU? But then what are miles/RPU for?