JFK/EWR to SFO - United First Class vs CO Business First
#1
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JFK/EWR to SFO - United First Class vs CO Business First
A few weeks ago I booked the following flight for 85,000 miles.
JFK to SFO and SFO back to EWR (all on a Boeing 757-200)
I havent flown in over 3 years so I wanted to have a lovely and luscious experience. Since CO doesnt offer FC I tried to get a round trip FC on United.
I was able to get FC on United to SFO (from JFK, ugh) but on the way back there was nothing in FC on United so I opted in a Business First on CO back to EWR (I live in NJ so I prefer EWR)
I looked online to get info on United FC cabin and I wasnt impressed. Is there a big difference between United FC and CO Bunsiness First?
Is it worth it dragging my ... to JFK to get a FC flight or would i have been better taking a CO BF from EWR?
Also, what airline has the best FC or Business experience from NYC to SFO?
Does any airline have anthing close to an international business class experience (like Virgins UC)?
Sorry for asking so many questions.
It's been ages since I flew and I'm nervous/excited
I'm, the type that gets more excited about the flight than the destination
Jim
JFK to SFO and SFO back to EWR (all on a Boeing 757-200)
I havent flown in over 3 years so I wanted to have a lovely and luscious experience. Since CO doesnt offer FC I tried to get a round trip FC on United.
I was able to get FC on United to SFO (from JFK, ugh) but on the way back there was nothing in FC on United so I opted in a Business First on CO back to EWR (I live in NJ so I prefer EWR)
I looked online to get info on United FC cabin and I wasnt impressed. Is there a big difference between United FC and CO Bunsiness First?
Is it worth it dragging my ... to JFK to get a FC flight or would i have been better taking a CO BF from EWR?
Also, what airline has the best FC or Business experience from NYC to SFO?
Does any airline have anthing close to an international business class experience (like Virgins UC)?
Sorry for asking so many questions.
It's been ages since I flew and I'm nervous/excited
I'm, the type that gets more excited about the flight than the destination
Jim
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So your JFK-SFO will be United's Premium Service. First Class is almost lie flat and has from what I understand quite upgraded service from domestic first class. However, with the merger, many are complaining about First on PS losing its magic, right as Delta's Transcon Premium Product is getting quite good. Nevertheless, it is sure to be better than regular domestic first or business. Your trip on the way back will be a BusinessFirst seat and Domestic First Service. You can look online to get details on your meal options. The BF seat is completely lie-flat, however you only get BF on this aircraft because United is optimizing their aircraft routing and using an international plane for this route. This is not sold as a BusinessFirst market.
So, in conclusion, if you want something special from NY-SFO go to JFK and take Delta's BusinessElite or United PS. Also, I think American has something for that route. But if you just want the seat go for EWR-SFO on the UA 752, it'll be better than the options from JFK. And the service will be regular domestic first.
So, in conclusion, if you want something special from NY-SFO go to JFK and take Delta's BusinessElite or United PS. Also, I think American has something for that route. But if you just want the seat go for EWR-SFO on the UA 752, it'll be better than the options from JFK. And the service will be regular domestic first.
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I just did P.S. F and I honestly wasn't impressed. The seat is small compared to the OLD BF seat to say nothing about the New BF seat. The international F lounge at JFK is a freaking joke. Ramen noodles do NOT make a International First Lounge.
In addition they still have those digiplayers which they collect about 45 min before landing (though they pass them out to first then business and collect the opposite) while BF has built in media in the seat. I do not know much about the food choices on BF transcon but I would not use miles on P.S. again over BF.
In addition they still have those digiplayers which they collect about 45 min before landing (though they pass them out to first then business and collect the opposite) while BF has built in media in the seat. I do not know much about the food choices on BF transcon but I would not use miles on P.S. again over BF.
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A few weeks ago I booked the following flight for 85,000 miles.
JFK to SFO and SFO back to EWR (all on a Boeing 757-200)
I havent flown in over 3 years so I wanted to have a lovely and luscious experience. Since CO doesnt offer FC I tried to get a round trip FC on United.
I was able to get FC on United to SFO (from JFK, ugh) but on the way back there was nothing in FC on United so I opted in a Business First on CO back to EWR (I live in NJ so I prefer EWR)
I looked online to get info on United FC cabin and I wasnt impressed. Is there a big difference between United FC and CO Bunsiness First?
Is it worth it dragging my ... to JFK to get a FC flight or would i have been better taking a CO BF from EWR?
Also, what airline has the best FC or Business experience from NYC to SFO?
Does any airline have anthing close to an international business class experience (like Virgins UC)?
Sorry for asking so many questions.
It's been ages since I flew and I'm nervous/excited
I'm, the type that gets more excited about the flight than the destination
Jim
JFK to SFO and SFO back to EWR (all on a Boeing 757-200)
I havent flown in over 3 years so I wanted to have a lovely and luscious experience. Since CO doesnt offer FC I tried to get a round trip FC on United.
I was able to get FC on United to SFO (from JFK, ugh) but on the way back there was nothing in FC on United so I opted in a Business First on CO back to EWR (I live in NJ so I prefer EWR)
I looked online to get info on United FC cabin and I wasnt impressed. Is there a big difference between United FC and CO Bunsiness First?
Is it worth it dragging my ... to JFK to get a FC flight or would i have been better taking a CO BF from EWR?
Also, what airline has the best FC or Business experience from NYC to SFO?
Does any airline have anthing close to an international business class experience (like Virgins UC)?
Sorry for asking so many questions.
It's been ages since I flew and I'm nervous/excited
I'm, the type that gets more excited about the flight than the destination
Jim
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That isn't going to happen on any commercial airline any more.
UA PS in F on the 757 is completely lay flat. However, it is not horizontal. It is the SQ Space Bed seat.
The CO business class seats are lay-flat and horizontal, but are quite narrow. There are also four additional seats in the cabin.
Virgin America does not have sleeper style seats.
UA PS in F on the 757 is completely lay flat. However, it is not horizontal. It is the SQ Space Bed seat.
The CO business class seats are lay-flat and horizontal, but are quite narrow. There are also four additional seats in the cabin.
Virgin America does not have sleeper style seats.
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JFK-SFO is a 3 cabin service. You'll be able to use the International First Class Lounge in JFK. You get a handheld video player, noise cancellation headset, and a menu for your meal. Lunch and Dinner comes with a sundae cart service. It's as close to international business class as it gets.
OP is redeeming 85,000 miles for the flights, not earning.
OP is redeeming 85,000 miles for the flights, not earning.
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I am assuming you are not referring to the business seats on the former CO 757s because they are quite confining while the UA 757 PS seats are not.
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85 K ?
A few weeks ago I booked the following flight for 85,000 miles.
JFK to SFO and SFO back to EWR (all on a Boeing 757-200)
I havent flown in over 3 years so I wanted to have a lovely and luscious experience. Since CO doesnt offer FC I tried to get a round trip FC on United.
I was able to get FC on United to SFO (from JFK, ugh) but on the way back there was nothing in FC on United so I opted in a Business First on CO back to EWR (I live in NJ so I prefer EWR)
I looked online to get info on United FC cabin and I wasnt impressed. Is there a big difference between United FC and CO Bunsiness First?
Is it worth it dragging my ... to JFK to get a FC flight or would i have been better taking a CO BF from EWR?
Also, what airline has the best FC or Business experience from NYC to SFO?
Does any airline have anthing close to an international business class experience (like Virgins UC)?
Sorry for asking so many questions.
It's been ages since I flew and I'm nervous/excited
I'm, the type that gets more excited about the flight than the destination
Jim
JFK to SFO and SFO back to EWR (all on a Boeing 757-200)
I havent flown in over 3 years so I wanted to have a lovely and luscious experience. Since CO doesnt offer FC I tried to get a round trip FC on United.
I was able to get FC on United to SFO (from JFK, ugh) but on the way back there was nothing in FC on United so I opted in a Business First on CO back to EWR (I live in NJ so I prefer EWR)
I looked online to get info on United FC cabin and I wasnt impressed. Is there a big difference between United FC and CO Bunsiness First?
Is it worth it dragging my ... to JFK to get a FC flight or would i have been better taking a CO BF from EWR?
Also, what airline has the best FC or Business experience from NYC to SFO?
Does any airline have anthing close to an international business class experience (like Virgins UC)?
Sorry for asking so many questions.
It's been ages since I flew and I'm nervous/excited
I'm, the type that gets more excited about the flight than the destination
Jim
Cost ? CPM ?
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#13
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You guys are freaking amazing!
I would like to thank all of you who responded to my question.
For you to take time out of your busy day to ponder my query is quite humbling.
I will be thinking of your kindness as i fly out of JFK this Sunday morning
BTW - I am sorry for the confusion but I used 85,000 miles to pay for this flight
Jim
For you to take time out of your busy day to ponder my query is quite humbling.
I will be thinking of your kindness as i fly out of JFK this Sunday morning
BTW - I am sorry for the confusion but I used 85,000 miles to pay for this flight
Jim
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So your JFK-SFO will be United's Premium Service. First Class is almost lie flat and has from what I understand quite upgraded service from domestic first class. However, with the merger, many are complaining about First on PS losing its magic, right as Delta's Transcon Premium Product is getting quite good.
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Guys, CO F SFO-EWR will not be international product, will be domestic F. Complete waste of miles.