Jul 2, 2015, 3:38 pm
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Version 1 is no longer in service (12 Feb 2017).
Note: This Wiki and thread is devoted to the pmUA 3-Cabin 777 Version 1. There is a second thread, and more extensive Wiki about both planes, in the Wiki and thread on Version 2. This thread should be used for discussion of Version 1, although older posts may refer to Version 2 (they were split 8/30/14).
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-airlines-mileageplus/1360456-everything-you-wanted-know-about-where-sit-pmua-3-cabin-777-version-2-a.html
And, if you're looking for the thread about pmCO 777, it's here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-airlines-mileageplus/1475682-everything-you-want-know-about-where-sit-pmco-777-international-5.html
How can you tell from seat map which version you're on? Look at the seat map image below - if it's this, you're on Version 1
Version 1 vs. Version 2
There are two version of the international 3-class pmUA airplane.
"Version 1" on the United website has 8 First, 40 Business, and 218 coach seats. (no longer in service)
"Version21" has 8 First, 40 Business, and 221 coach seats. (formerly Version 2 is now Version 1).
One unique attribute of Version 1 was the crew rest seats at the back of the E+ cabin in the middle section of Rows 29 and 30 (seats DEG). On most flights these seats were curtained off and dedicated for use by the crew. However, they were sometimes available when these planes were used on shorter routes and there was no need for crew rest. They provided much better legroom and footrests. This post contains a description and pictures: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/25059936-post991.html
Fixed bassinets were available in economy 19G, 34G -- none in BF or GF.
Note: This Wiki and thread is devoted to the pmUA 3-Cabin 777 Version 1. There is a second thread, and more extensive Wiki about both planes, in the Wiki and thread on Version 2. This thread should be used for discussion of Version 1, although older posts may refer to Version 2 (they were split 8/30/14).
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-airlines-mileageplus/1360456-everything-you-wanted-know-about-where-sit-pmua-3-cabin-777-version-2-a.html
And, if you're looking for the thread about pmCO 777, it's here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-airlines-mileageplus/1475682-everything-you-want-know-about-where-sit-pmco-777-international-5.html
How can you tell from seat map which version you're on? Look at the seat map image below - if it's this, you're on Version 1
Version 1 vs. Version 2
There are two version of the international 3-class pmUA airplane.
"Version
One unique attribute of Version 1 was the crew rest seats at the back of the E+ cabin in the middle section of Rows 29 and 30 (seats DEG). On most flights these seats were curtained off and dedicated for use by the crew. However, they were sometimes available when these planes were used on shorter routes and there was no need for crew rest. They provided much better legroom and footrests. This post contains a description and pictures: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/25059936-post991.html
Fixed bassinets were available in economy 19G, 34G -- none in BF or GF.
Everything You Wanted to Know About Where to Sit on a pmUA 3-Cabin 777 Version 1
Apr 26, 2010, 9:46 am
#181
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Of course it's usable. My arms go there on the old C, just like they go on the armrests on the new C - which is the whole problem.Agreed. Of course, UA's approach to all things premium cabin, such as service, food, and pretty much everything other than the individual seat itself, appears to be under the assumption that passengers there are all upgraders/NRSAs/award travelers rather than anyone paying full cash price.
Apr 26, 2010, 11:38 am
#182
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I hate the 3-3-3 configuration too.
3-3-3 seating may now be an "international standard", but 2-5-2 seating has been an American standard to all 9 abreast airplane - DC10, L1011, MD11, and early B777 are all 2-5-2 configuration. There must be a reason why they were configured that way.
3-3-3 seating may now be an "international standard", but 2-5-2 seating has been an American standard to all 9 abreast airplane - DC10, L1011, MD11, and early B777 are all 2-5-2 configuration. There must be a reason why they were configured that way.
Apr 26, 2010, 11:39 am
#183
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3-3-3 vs 2-5-2 is not that imporatant for me, most important question; will we still have the same generous space between the front E+ row and the bulkhead?
Apr 26, 2010, 12:26 pm
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The pictures posted already certainly suggest that - the front rows of E+ have excellent legroom and actually remain 2-seaters on either side.
Apr 26, 2010, 12:28 pm
#185
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Thanks for all the pics; very interesting to see the new bird. ^
Apr 26, 2010, 12:43 pm
#186
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It's kind of funny that it took longer to convert this plane than it does to build an entire new 777, which Boeing can roll out in 51 days.
Apr 26, 2010, 1:22 pm
#187
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Initial Impressions in C
I rode UA914 yesterday, the new 777 config, and enjoyed my window seat in row 10. At first they had me in one of the "middle" seats in the 2-4-2, but luckily a window was available, albeit in the last row in C.
It was a little weird looking backwards into Y, but kudos to the staff - they actually closed the curtains! I did get a lot of time to observe the Y passengers, and must say that it wouldn't be the end of the world if I were in a middle seat in Y - the legroom seems good and the new seats are nice!
I would be a little peeved if I had actually paid for C and ended up in one of the two middle seats in each row however. These seats each seem closer to each other than to the adjacent aisle seat - there is not a little table separating the two middle seats from each other, just two adjacent skinny armrests. What I'm trying to say is that every window and every aisle is a much better seat in C, IMHO. A little divider piece between the two middle seats would have made all the difference.
But all in all, it's much easier to sleep on the new seats (if you're not too fat!) than the old seats. I liked the entertainment system (but pilot comm was turned off, and the "learning" channels need to be updated once in a while)
It was a little weird looking backwards into Y, but kudos to the staff - they actually closed the curtains! I did get a lot of time to observe the Y passengers, and must say that it wouldn't be the end of the world if I were in a middle seat in Y - the legroom seems good and the new seats are nice!
I would be a little peeved if I had actually paid for C and ended up in one of the two middle seats in each row however. These seats each seem closer to each other than to the adjacent aisle seat - there is not a little table separating the two middle seats from each other, just two adjacent skinny armrests. What I'm trying to say is that every window and every aisle is a much better seat in C, IMHO. A little divider piece between the two middle seats would have made all the difference.
But all in all, it's much easier to sleep on the new seats (if you're not too fat!) than the old seats. I liked the entertainment system (but pilot comm was turned off, and the "learning" channels need to be updated once in a while)
Apr 26, 2010, 2:22 pm
#188
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These seats each seem closer to each other than to the adjacent aisle seat - there is not a little table separating the two middle seats from each other, just two adjacent skinny armrests. What I'm trying to say is that every window and every aisle is a much better seat in C, IMHO. A little divider piece between the two middle seats would have made all the difference.
Apr 26, 2010, 3:10 pm
#189
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Apr 26, 2010, 3:22 pm
#190
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Basically this. Oh well, I do a decent job getting window seats on these flights anyway so no Real big deal for me (yes one extra person to walk over but I'm generally pretty good about not needing to get up)
Apr 26, 2010, 3:26 pm
#191
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Apr 26, 2010, 4:10 pm
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If the two middle armrests are not divided by anything, I feel this is a very big misstep. Great for couples, but it sure would be awkward to wake up with your random seatmate spooning you.
If the two middle armrests are not divided by anything, I feel this is a very big misstep. Great for couples, but it sure would be awkward to wake up with your random seatmate spooning you.
Apr 26, 2010, 4:27 pm
#193
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Late to the party, but I had to ask
Has anyone commented that the 2-5-2 config in E+ is better for couples (if they can get either pair of the 2's) vs the 3-whatever config. Or have I missed something, e.g., maybe a seat map?
Apr 26, 2010, 4:40 pm
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Apr 26, 2010, 4:56 pm
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If the two middle armrests are not divided by anything, I feel this is a very big misstep. Great for couples, but it sure would be awkward to wake up with your random seatmate spooning you.
If the two middle armrests are not divided by anything, I feel this is a very big misstep. Great for couples, but it sure would be awkward to wake up with your random seatmate spooning you.
Probably the most common complaint. Done for the sake of each IFE box supporting 3 seats. Beyond that there's a bunch of interesting stuff in the thread about ratio of couples/single travelers, and increasing likelihood of empty neighboring seats under the 3/3/3 config if you want to read about that.
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