Entering UK on Tourist entry visa expiring on the day of layover
Oct 20, 2016, 3:56 pm
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Entering UK on Tourist entry visa expiring on the day of layover
Planning to enter the day ,the visa expires.Will the immigration let me in ?
Just for a layover for 13 hrs and leave the next day.
I dont want to apply for another visa, which would cost ~ $200 in total
1/1/2017- visa expiration date
1/1/2017- FCO -LHR
lay over in london 13h 45 mins
1/2/2017- LHR-DFW
Just for a layover for 13 hrs and leave the next day.
I dont want to apply for another visa, which would cost ~ $200 in total
1/1/2017- visa expiration date
1/1/2017- FCO -LHR
lay over in london 13h 45 mins
1/2/2017- LHR-DFW
Oct 20, 2016, 4:53 pm
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What is your nationality and place of residence? Where are you going?
Your visa probably won't let you in, but some visa nationals are able to enter the UK visa-free for overnight transits, providing they fulfill certain conditions with regards to residence and origin/destination
Your visa probably won't let you in, but some visa nationals are able to enter the UK visa-free for overnight transits, providing they fulfill certain conditions with regards to residence and origin/destination
Oct 21, 2016, 2:56 am
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It depends on the particular visa. For example I think some visas have an expiry date which is really a 'must enter by' date, and on the date you enter your 'must exit by' date is then determined.
Having never needed a UK visa I've no idea how ours work.
Having never needed a UK visa I've no idea how ours work.
Oct 23, 2016, 8:00 am
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For better advice, you'll have to tell us what sort of visa it is and what nationality(-ies) you are.
However it's my impression that with most UK visas it must be valid for your entire stay. If you stay longer than your visa validity (however it is calculated) you have overstayed, and UK Border Force will not be welcoming next time you try to enter the UK (or apply for a visa).
However it's my impression that with most UK visas it must be valid for your entire stay. If you stay longer than your visa validity (however it is calculated) you have overstayed, and UK Border Force will not be welcoming next time you try to enter the UK (or apply for a visa).
Oct 23, 2016, 11:07 pm
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Possibly more important is what the airline you are taking from FCO thinks. If they believe you might be turned away, you won't be allowed to board and what the Border Force thinks will never be relevant.
Airline agents can be quite conservative. Not sure it's worth the risk.
Airline agents can be quite conservative. Not sure it's worth the risk.
Oct 25, 2016, 6:20 am
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Oct 27, 2016, 2:37 pm
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I think your guess is correct.
Bear in mind you cannot stay airside at most UK airports overnight, the terminal buildings close to the public, so you must be able to enter the UK to have an overnight layover here.
Bear in mind you cannot stay airside at most UK airports overnight, the terminal buildings close to the public, so you must be able to enter the UK to have an overnight layover here.
Oct 27, 2016, 2:47 pm
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airline might not even allow you to board if visa is invalid? YMMV, someone can chime in with more info
Oct 27, 2016, 5:40 pm
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Visa required, except for Passengers holding confirmed onward
tickets passing through United Kingdom immigration to make a
landside transit to a third country on a flight that departs
before 23:59 the next day. The following conditions must be
complied with:
- passenger must arrive and depart by air; and
- passenger must have no purpose in entering the United
Kingdom other than to pass through in transit; and
- passenger must hold all documents required for the next
destination; and
- passenger must pass through United Kingdom Immigration; and
- passenger travels with a document listed in the following
warning(s):
- ***Warning*** Passengers may make a landside transit if
holding:
- a valid I-551 Permanent Resident Card issued by the USA
on or after 21 April 1998; or
- a valid I-551 Temporary Immigrant visa issued by the USA
(a wet-ink/ADIT stamp version will not be accepted by
United Kingdom immigration); or
- an expired I-551 Permanent Resident Card issued by the
USA, provided accompanied by a valid I-797 letter
authorizing the extension, issued by the Bureau of
Citizenship; or
- a stand alone Immigration Visa Form 155A/155B issued by
the USA (attached to a sealed brown envelope). (SEE NOTE
57399)
NOTE 57399: E-visas or e-residence permits are not
accepted for landside transit.
tickets passing through United Kingdom immigration to make a
landside transit to a third country on a flight that departs
before 23:59 the next day. The following conditions must be
complied with:
- passenger must arrive and depart by air; and
- passenger must have no purpose in entering the United
Kingdom other than to pass through in transit; and
- passenger must hold all documents required for the next
destination; and
- passenger must pass through United Kingdom Immigration; and
- passenger travels with a document listed in the following
warning(s):
- ***Warning*** Passengers may make a landside transit if
holding:
- a valid I-551 Permanent Resident Card issued by the USA
on or after 21 April 1998; or
- a valid I-551 Temporary Immigrant visa issued by the USA
(a wet-ink/ADIT stamp version will not be accepted by
United Kingdom immigration); or
- an expired I-551 Permanent Resident Card issued by the
USA, provided accompanied by a valid I-797 letter
authorizing the extension, issued by the Bureau of
Citizenship; or
- a stand alone Immigration Visa Form 155A/155B issued by
the USA (attached to a sealed brown envelope). (SEE NOTE
57399)
NOTE 57399: E-visas or e-residence permits are not
accepted for landside transit.
Oct 28, 2016, 4:32 am
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You've been asked this twice and not answered.
Oct 31, 2016, 9:53 am
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Possibly more important is what the airline you are taking from FCO thinks. If they believe you might be turned away, you won't be allowed to board and what the Border Force thinks will never be relevant.
Airline agents can be quite conservative. Not sure it's worth the risk.
Airline agents can be quite conservative. Not sure it's worth the risk.
The airline shouldn't want to let you board in Rome if your documents aren't in order.
Oct 31, 2016, 10:01 am
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All flights are with BA
Did some searches on the internet and some people have mentioned that they have done < 24 hr Landside transit with similar travel documents as mine
Thank you.
United Kingdom - Transit Visa
Visa required.
Transiting without a visa is possible for:
Passengers holding confirmed onward tickets making an airside transit at London Gatwick (LGW), London Heathrow (LHR) or Manchester (MAN) on the same calendar day to a third country (excluding Ireland (Rep.)).
Passengers may make an airside transit if holding:
- a valid I-551 Permanent Resident Card issued by the USA on or after 21 April 1998; or
- a valid I-551 Temporary Immigrant visa issued by the USA (a wet-ink/ADIT stamp version will not be accepted by United Kingdom immigration); or
- an expired I-551 Permanent Resident Card issued by the USA, provided accompanied by a valid I-797 letter authorizing the extension, issued by the Bureau of Citizenship; or
- a stand alone Immigration Visa Form 155A/155B issued by the USA (attached to a sealed brown envelope).
E-visas or e-residence permits are only accepted for airside transit when the airline is able to verify it with the issuing country.
Passengers holding confirmed onward tickets passing through United Kingdom immigration to make a landside transit to a third country on a flight that departs before 23:59 the next day.
Passengers may make a landside transit if holding:
- a valid I-551 Permanent Resident Card issued by the USA on or after 21 April 1998; or
- a valid I-551 Temporary Immigrant visa issued by the USA (a wet-ink/ADIT stamp version will not be accepted by United Kingdom immigration); or
- an expired I-551 Permanent Resident Card issued by the USA, provided accompanied by a valid I-797 letter authorizing the extension, issued by the Bureau of Citizenship; or
- a stand alone Immigration Visa Form 155A/155B issued by the USA (attached to a sealed brown envelope).
E-visas or e-residence permits are not accepted for landside transit.
Additional information:
Leave to remain issued by Guernsey, Isle of Man or Jersey, which are in the form of wet ink stamps, are also valid for entry into or transit through the United Kingdom.
Last edited by Nomad98; Oct 31, 2016 at 10:07 am